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Review: Saitek X52 Flight Control System

by Nick Haywood on 8 June 2005, 00:00

Tags: Saitek, PC, Xbox, Xbox 360, GameCube, PS2, PSP, DS, PS3, Wii

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Conclusion



So have Saitek come up trumps with the X52? In short, yes. They’ve done what every manufacturer who is serious about their products should do and that is to listen to feedback on previous versions and improve things for the next version as well as adding features to make life easier for the user.

The futuristic looks and the bloo LED lighting, (the brightness of which is fully adjustable), might put a few hardcore sim fans off as being a bit over the top for a flightstick. The software is a piece of the proverbial to use and could only be improved by having a converter built in so you don’t have to re-programme the stick all over again of you’re upgrading from the X45.

First time users might feel a touch daunted by the sheer number of options available when programming the stick… as you can divide the rotary knobs into 10 bands, that 60 different keypresses there alone… bewildering is the word that springs to mind. That said, you can download ready made profiles for the most popular games from the Saitek website, but to be honest, you’re better off doing it yourself… programme in stuff as and when you find you need it. Otherwise, just think about which functions you need and group them into the modes. In IL2 I use all three modes… one for normal flight and fighting, one for flying multi-engined aircraft and one for advanced, rarely used flight functions such as bombsight aiming. In LOMAC I use the different modes for basic flight, ground attack and air-to-air and even then I have to use the shift function to enable ‘hands off’ flying, but the X52 gives without doubt the most complete control without having to hunt out the requisite keys on the keyboard.

In summing up, it has to be said that Saitek are going to have to do something amazing to be able to top the X52, it really is that good. Users of the X45 will at first find it feels too light as we’re used to heaving our sticks about like Geoff Capes tossing a caber, but get up in the air and needing a lighter touch on the stick will soon show in how much easier flying accurately becomes. The two-stage trigger is great, as are the toggle buttons, and though the majority of the lighting is just for show, the MFD is a truly useful addition for serious simmers.

With a price point at the time of writing of £99, the X52 might seem outrageously expensive, but you get a hell of a lot for your money. The next closest dedicated throttle and stick system is the Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS system… but that has only 28 buttons and will put a £230 hole in your wallet… So unless you really want to have an authentically modelled F-16 stick in your hands, the X52 is the way to go.

Pros
Improves on the X45 in every way
Programming a doddle and totally customisable
MFD display
Bloo LEDs for those night flights
Re-designed for greater comfort and ease of use
Top quality stick for less than a ton, even less if you hunt around

Cons
Old X45 profiles not usable!
Perhaps too futuristic in looks for some
Takes up an acre of desk space (still!)







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" I’ve now upgraded to the X52 and guess what? The profiles for the X45 and the X52 aren’t compatible! Yep, I’ve got to go back and totally re-programme the stick from scratch. To be honest, this is a major bind as what I really want to do is get me and my stick up in the air and shooting stuff down, but no, I have to spend 3 hours re-programming everything. You can argue that the X52 is so different that there’s no way X45 profiles could be used by the X52, but to be honest, the X52 hasn’t actually removed any of the X45’s buttons, so why can’t there be some sort of converter to re-map all my bindings over and then just leave me to take advantage of the new features?

Actually there probably is a way to shortcut that although not as good as the days of SGE when you could use the 1 profile on pretty much any Saitek joystick (I'm told that MS insistence on every bit of hardware having it's own PID killed that).

Try this - take your old X45.dat & open it with the X52 editor.
Right click on a button or in a cell (I prefer to use the Data view rather than 3D) you should get a list of commands in the X45 .dat assuming that the person who did the profile named the commands properly (otherwise you will just get ”new button press#" etc.).
You can then simply assign the command that you want to that button/state.

It works for converting X36 profiles to X45 & vice versa so hopefully it works with the X52 too - I will be interested to hear results.
If you need any more help PM me.
Yeah, I tried to open X45 profiles with the new X52 editor and it didn't recognise the profile.

Which is why I was flumoxed over it.
Nick
Yeah, I tried to open X45 profiles with the new X52 editor and it didn't recognise the profile.
Just to confirm did you try to open or load the X45 profile using the X52's editor?
If it is like X36>X45 & vice-versa all the cells show up as blank but if you right click in a cell it comes up with the command list.

edit: UKSupport posted this awhile back on Saitekforum.com so it looks like what I was saying should work for this too.

“the same thing applies that has always done for the profiles - a profile, no matter what controller you made it for, still has all the commands saved within it. Provided you have named the commands in the original profile then all you have to do is bring up the profile editor for the X52, click File>Open and then open the X45 profile that you want to use. You'll note that the buttons are not programmed but if you right click a button then the list of commands that are in the profile will be visible there - simply left click the command that you want to assign to that button. If you didn't name the commands in the original profile then all you'll have is a list of New Keypress 2, New Keypress 3 etc. and you won't know which command is which.”
http://www.saitekforum.com/showthread.php?t=6202&highlight=convert
Yep, I did… It was the first thing I tried as my button mapping for IL2 is enormous, I can fly that game hands off except for engine start as you only push it the once…

And my key mapping for LOMAC is even bigger, so I was VERY keen to get that one converted and not have to re-do it from scratch.
Well Saitek say it can be done but unfortunately I don't have an X52 to play with … :(