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Corsair changing model numbers on 25nm SSDs so "customers are clear about what they are getting"

by Parm Mann on 21 February 2011, 10:45

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There's plenty of hoopla surrounding the transition to 25nm SSD technology right now, and with big names licking the resultant wounds of misinformation, Corsair's hoping to pounce by announcing in detail its plans to move from 34nm to 25nm flash in upcoming products.

Aware of the consumer backlash that has led rival manufacturer OCZ into hot water these past few weeks, Corsair has fessed up to the disadvantages of using 25nm flash by announcing that drives built on the cheaper-to-produce chips "may require more over-provisioning which lowers the capacity of the SSD and may also see a reduction in performance".

As a consequence, Corsair will be changing the model numbers and advertised capacities of its 25nm Force Series drives to ensure "customers are perfectly clear about what they are getting". Therefore, the 25nm successor to the 34nm Force Series F120 will be known as the Force Series F115-A, with the model number depicting a 5GB reduction in capacity and the -A suffix indicating the use of 25nm components.

Makes sense, and we bet OCZ wishes it had done something similar. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, isn't it?

Corsair's official statement is below and further details - including benchmarks of the 25nm drives - are available over at the Corsair Blog.


“There is a lot of confusion in the market about the impact the move from 34 to 25nm flash will have on both the price and the performance of solid-state drives,” said John Beekley, VP of Technical Marketing at Corsair. “We’ve been working closely with SandForce to ensure the smoothest possible transition and we’re sharing the details today.”

Flash memory manufacturers are transitioning to using 25nm process for fabrication, allowing them to boost capacity and reduce costs, which in turn will allow SSD suppliers to pass those savings to the consumer. The downside is that SSDs built using 25nm flash ICs may require more over-provisioning (a technique used to ensure reliability) which lowers the capacity of the SSD and may also see a reduction in performance.

“The Corsair and SandForce engineering teams have been working closely with the key flash memory suppliers to profile and qualify 25nm parts,” continued Beekley, “and we’ve been running our Force drives through performance and reliability testing alongside them. We’re pleased with the progress that’s been made in getting the Force Series 25nm drives ready to ship to customers.”

In the Corsair Labs, using the ATTO synthetic benchmark, only a small reduction in performance (roughly 3-4%) was seen when testing Force Series SSDs built with 25nm flash.  Real-world tests, such as copying groups of files or measuring Windows boot times, support the ATTO results and show little to no performance loss.  However, the over-provisioning needed means that in some cases the capacity of the drives will be reduced.

“So that our customers are perfectly clear about what they are getting, we will be changing the model numbers on all 25nm based drives and transitioning the drive capacities we offer where necessary. For example, a drive that would have been sold as 120GB when built with 34nm flash will be launched as a 115GB version,” said Jared Peck, Global Product Marketing Manager for SSDs at Corsair, “All Force Series drives built with 25nm flash will also have a ‘-A’ suffix on the part and/or model number, making it easy to determine exactly what you’re getting.”

Force Series 115GB and 80GB 25nm drives will be available by the end of February from Corsair’s worldwide network of resellers and distributors.  The F115-A has a Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $215 and the F80-A has an MSRP of $169 in the U.S.  For comparison the current Force Series F120 has an MSRP of $249 and the F80 has an MSRP of $199.



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High-end manufacturer plans to side step the 25nm SSD SNAFU by keeping customers in the loop.

Is it fair to call this a SNAFU? That implies this is normal behaviour for OCZ.
Don't get me wrong - what OCZ are doing is both (IMHO) illegal and wrong as it's outright lying in the product name, however I was unaware of them making a habit of doing this.
Perhaps mongolian cluster**** would be a better description.
Smart move by Corsair.

Lots of positive press about their “honesty” giving them free publicity.

Good to see prices on SSDs continue the downward trend.
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Hindsight's a wonderful thing, isn't it?

Call me harsh, but I don't think you needed to be clairvoyant to realise that you might upset customers by selling them an SSD with lower usable/formatted capacity, that's slower as well but forgetting to tell them that you've changed the specs

From a quick check on OCZ's website, they are still linking to reviews of the older model on the vertex 2 page. There is at least a clickable link now for the usable capacities, but for the “E” series, the main page still calls it the "120GB - OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G" (http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-2-sata-ii-2-5-ssd.html)

I can't see there is anything about that drive that is 120GB? Even their own linked sub page says the raw capacity is 128GB, usable capacity 115GB (http://www.ocztechnology.com//images/V2E_capacity_breakdown.jpg) So isn't using 120 in the name misleading, and describing it as 120GB on the main product page verging on a trade description issue/false advertising issue?

So yes, Corsair have done the decent thing, but quite frankly that's what I regard as the absolute minimum. If they really wanted to take the high ground, they could have give it a new brand name as well as model number.
Its nice to see Corsair being honest, personally I really don't care too much about benchmarks… they rarely if ever do anything more than indicate what ‘real world’ performance might be. However loosing more GB off the top of the drive is something that would concern me… if I am buying a drive that 115GB of actual usable storage then fine… but selling me 120Gb and then only giving me 115 is at best dishonest at worst its theft.
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Call me harsh, but I don't think you needed to be clairvoyant to realise that you might upset customers by selling them an SSD with lower usable/formatted capacity, that's slower as well but forgetting to tell them that you've changed the specs

From a quick check on OCZ's website, they are still linking to reviews of the older model on the vertex 2 page. There is at least a clickable link now for the usable capacities, but for the “E” series, the main page still calls it the "120GB - OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G" (http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-2-sata-ii-2-5-ssd.html)

I can't see there is anything about that drive that is 120GB? Even their own linked sub page says the raw capacity is 128GB, usable capacity 115GB (http://www.ocztechnology.com//images/V2E_capacity_breakdown.jpg) So isn't using 120 in the name misleading, and describing it as 120GB on the main product page verging on a trade description issue/false advertising issue?

So yes, Corsair have done the decent thing, but quite frankly that's what I regard as the absolute minimum. If they really wanted to take the high ground, they could have give it a new brand name as well as model number.
Hear hear. This is basic stuff. Imagine you've always bought a certain brand of 1L milk cartons and the manufacturer decided to change something one day and started shipping only 950mL milk but in the same old cartons without changing anything in the labeling. You just don't do it and OCZ should suffer but that rarely happens (think nVidia with their faulty notebook GPUs)