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NVIDIA now predicts quad-core devices by end of year

by Scott Bicheno on 7 September 2011, 09:33

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The CEO of graphics company NVIDIA embarked on one of his evangelising media road-trips yesterday, with the apparent aim of improving the perception of NVIDIA's mobile prospects.

He popped into the WSJ/Dow Jones offices and offered an update on when we can expect mobile devices running the next generation Tegra SoC - a quad-core beast codenamed Kal-El. Apparently they should start to appear in the third or fourth quarter, but given that we're well into Q3 that probably means mid Q4 - November-ish.

Back when NVIDIA mobile boss Mike Rayfield first announced Kal-El at MWC in February, he predicted devices by August, which clearly hasn't happened. "We're trying to get there as fast as possible," explained Huang. "Some of it is related to getting the industrial design as wonderful as possible, and some of it's related to tuning and performance. But it's going to be pretty great."

Huang also insisted that the mobile SoC market is now a two horse race, with NVIDIA and Qualcomm the only real contenders, despite rumours that TI's OMAP is the reference chip for the next major version of Android. This does, of course, exclude the two biggest device makers - Apple and Samsung - who make their own SoCs.

"We were never in any of the reference devices," said Huang, conveniently overlooking Tegra 2's position as the default chip for Honeycomb tablets. "I think TI is desperately trying to hold onto something. I think they just don't invest enough, and they need to decide if they're going to invest." He was apparently referring specifically to software in that case.

At another round table Huang apparently said he expects revenue from NVIDIA's mobile chip business to reach $20 billion by 2015. That would be quite an achievement considering the consumer products division - which includes Tegra -produced $290 million in revenue in the first half of this year and Huang has forecast total revenues for the whole company of $5 billion for next year.

Huang is always good for a strong quote or two, and he knows that forecasts are soon forgotten, so he's clearly made a tactical decision to try to keep the buzz going for Tegra while we wait for the Kal-El devices to arrive. But that doesn't mean there's no substance to his words; the third-party SoC market does seem to be dominated by Qualcomm and NVIDIA right now and, with the two companies coming at the market from such different directions, it makes for an intriguing clash.

 



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I was at this yesterday: https://ktn.innovateuk.org/web/scalable-computing/articles/-/blogs/slides-from-the-event-programming-the-multicore;jsessionid=26230EB727CAD152859C776C8FFD84A8.MekushUdbew4?ns_33_redirect=%2Fweb%2Fscalable-computing%2Farticles%2F-%2Fblogs

Marco Cornero from ST Ericsson questioned the usefulness of quad-core (or at least why we haven't gone quad core just yet).

I think you'll find quad-core won't give you much benefit in the majority of use cases; there might be some showcase software, but parallelising web browsing is really bloody hard.
Steve
I was at this yesterday: https://ktn.innovateuk.org/web/scalable-computing/articles/-/blogs/slides-from-the-event-programming-the-multicore;jsessionid=26230EB727CAD152859C776C8FFD84A8.MekushUdbew4?ns_33_redirect=%2Fweb%2Fscalable-computing%2Farticles%2F-%2Fblogs

Marco Cornero from ST Ericsson questioned the usefulness of quad-core (or at least why we haven't gone quad core just yet).

I think you'll find quad-core won't give you much benefit in the majority of use cases; there might be some showcase software, but parallelising web browsing is really bloody hard.

Good point, NVIDIA's competitors will certainly try to downplay the significance of quad-core, but NVIDIA is saying you'll get 5x the performance of Tegra 2 at a lower power draw. I guess we'll find out the truth by the end of the year.

Did ST Ericsson say anything about Nova?
I was given the impression by more than one company yesterday that the decision not to release quad core yet wasn't really an engineering one. I mean, you can just slap a pair of dual-core die into a package if you really want.

What's interesting though is the observation Marco made that we haven't ‘transitioned’ to dual-core, but rather straight switched… all flagship smartphones are now dual core.

I think it'll be a different story with quad core, unless consumers/marketeers create confused demands.

I don't remember anything about Nova, let me check. edit: No, not that I can see.
I would have thought the point in creating a quad core tablet is that you are pushing the actual physical capabilities of the device closer to that of what we have become accustomed too with PCs, basically closing the gap between x86 based systems and ARM based systems. Already we have seen mobile gaming take a massive jump in the space of just a few short years, now there are peripherals and add ons for tablets that give them the capabilities to be controlled like normal laptops, location recording devices etc etc. Tablets in conjunction with a NAS can be comfortably used as a HTPC to drive your television and surround system… the list goes on and on really. These are no longer just devices to browse the web with, they have a lot more to offer and i think with windows soon to appear with an arm offering, the other companies may have to rethink their stance on the market.

It does seem very much like anyone trying to downplay the significance of more powerful mobile chipsets is very much just trying to cover their own backs but only time will tell.
agreed biscuit, quadcore wont really help in regards to pure web browsing but for gaming (i.e keeping up with the ds and psp, even getting closer to normal consoles!) then its useful, wasnt there a demo nvidia showed awhile back with a game with dynamic lighting etc and even load on all cores it allowed for so much more.

I think Nvidia will dominate soon (more than currently, its doing solid considering its in tablets alot of phones like my optimus 2x and atrix and soon the sgs2 or what ever they renamed it to). Nvidia have gone for a more gpu heavy SoC (obvious for nvidia…) but thats what makes it, hardware acceleration on the browser helps loads same with video more so than just adding more cpu processing power so i think Qualcomm will be meeting its match soon which is shown by the dualcore in the sensation etc, all of them are good but tegra 2 beats them a fair margin.