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Review: Time UltraStation XP3200

by Ryszard Sommefeldt on 24 August 2003, 00:00 4.0

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Conclusion


I covered performance earlier, so I won't cover it here. It's fast when you put the timings to what they should be, excellent.

Price. This is where things get scary, it's just shy of £1600 including VAT, delivery and basic 12 month return to base warranty. All repairs, parts and labour are covered in that 12 months, so it's not too bad. They are keen to sell you extra warranty cover, both in terms of duration and features, including things like on site repair and a reload CD. Erk. Why don't all systems, even the cheapest boxes, come with a CD and instructions for reloading the system from it? Why does that cost £99 from Time? I'm slighty perplexed that a system should have to go back to base, with all the costs and downtime that entails, when for the price of a pressed CD or DVD and sheet of paper, the user can happily do that themselves.

With their other warranty packages costing the wrong side of £200, although the cover is quite impressive, you could easily blow nearly £2000 on the UltraStation that way.

I decided to test out my theoretical 12 months warranty and support, by giving the Time helpline a ring. My first stumbling block was going to be identifying my system as a Time PC, and without an order number or anything like that, I could have been denied at the first hurdle. But, after playing dumb and telling the guy on the other end that I didn't have my order details to hand, he decided to give me a hand anyway. I'd faked a problem whereby the IDE cable had come loose and the hard drive wasn't being detected any more and the system wasn't booting.

Sure enough, after asking me what I saw on the screen at boot/POST, he asked me to remove the correct case side (the left), using a screwdriver after removing the power cord, pointed me correctly to the hard drive (describing it properly), and asked me to check the cable between that and the motherboard. I played dumb throughout, making the guy work as hard as he should have, but the problem was fixed inside of 10 minutes. He even asked me to make sure I wasn't statically charged ("can you touch a radiator?") and to even have a quick glance over the rest of the components, to make sure all the other cables were OK. A quick call back to confirm I was OK again and they passed that test with flying colours.

Overall, I had very little to complain about. The price for the spec is good, try pricing up the same hardware on your favourite online retailer and see, before you shout that £1600 is a rip off. It's a little pricy compared to other vendors, for the same hardware, but nothing too bad.

Only the case and no reinstall media, a real let down for the money you will spend, the mouse issue, and the shipped memory timings, were anything to point a finger at. A quick chat with Time convinced me that disasters, while not completely eradicated (everyone ships a dud every now and again), are down to as much of a minimum as they can manage. They aren't the Time of old, something I think they'd like to stress.

A thumbs up all round, I have to say. Providing they look into the memory timings issue (or you change them yourself) and you don't get a horrid mouse like I did, the UltraStation XP3200+ is about as much of a powerhouse PC as you can buy in this country at the moment, for under around £1800. Steep, but the components are top of the range.

The monitor, speakers, and general usage were all highlights, thumbs up to Time for the effort, especially with the faked support call.

Score



Pro's

Performance
Configuration and setup
Glorious speakers
Excellent monitor
Support help

Con's

Slightly expensive compared to a couple of other vendors
Not enough bundled software
Needs a better case
Memory timings as shipped
No reinstallation media

Thanks

Time for the review sample


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;) Well XP3200+ is nice but if you can afford that kind of money the P4 800FSB route makes loads more sense. As always you pay a big premium for th top kit with only marginal perf gains … the rapid devaluation will always hurt too.

:( FX5900 is also a little bit of a waste, nice performer but the Rad9800 or 9800PRO are both better and a good deal cheaper too! At least there isn't a GF4MX440, Rad9200 nor FX5200 in there though.

:p The DVD Writer is also pretty poor and better & cheaper options are readily available. ‘+’&'-' is what you want, not ‘-’&'RAM'. Giving you a 2nd DVD-ROM drive is wasteful as well, on-the-fly hasn't been truly feasible nor preferable for a good while, maybe that is better with DVD writing but I doubt it.

:cool: Wireless keybd and mouse are nice and pretty but not energy efficient nor generally good for gaming (or around children who'll run off with them).

:confused: Modem? Are you seriously telling me someone's going to spend the best part of £2000 and then use snail Internet connections?

;) BTW I am nit-picking and will gladly take one … for half the price LOL!
Nice review, unbiased editorial, i like! A proper end user opinion, like picking up on how annoying a crappy wireless mouse can be rather than just spouting specs and numbers (though they are useful to) = a top review in my books! Where was the 5 pages of slagging pre-confugered systems though? Especially one from such a big brand! Well done Rys :D

As for the actual machine, and in fact pre-configured machines in general, you can look at them and see they were built my marketing men, keen to put the biggest spec numbers down, because they know that's what the non-techie looks at when buying a pc. I know if i was building a system with that kind of money that i might sacrifice the very latet processor for a nice logitech cordless desktop mx keyboard and mouse combo and not go for the largest capacity hard drive in favour of a better looking case and a pioneer dvd writer. It's the little things that really effect a pc, the average Time PC whatsitsname system user isn't going to need 250Gb of hard drive space but may well notice a nice shiny case and will certainly appreciate a user friendly keyboard and mouse that they will use for many hours, although i fully appreciate that it may well be difficult to convince them of that in a newspaper advert.
Originally posted by Austin
;) Well XP3200+ is nice but if you can afford that kind of money the P4 800FSB route makes loads more sense. As always you pay a big premium for th top kit with only marginal perf gains … the rapid devaluation will always hurt too.

:( FX5900 is also a little bit of a waste, nice performer but the Rad9800 or 9800PRO are both better and a good deal cheaper too! At least there isn't a GF4MX440, Rad9200 nor FX5200 in there though.

:p The DVD Writer is also pretty poor and better & cheaper options are readily available. ‘+’&'-' is what you want, not ‘-’&'RAM'. Giving you a 2nd DVD-ROM drive is wasteful as well, on-the-fly hasn't been truly feasible nor preferable for a good while, maybe that is better with DVD writing but I doubt it.

:cool: Wireless keybd and mouse are nice and pretty but not energy efficient nor generally good for gaming (or around children who'll run off with them).

:confused: Modem? Are you seriously telling me someone's going to spend the best part of £2000 and then use snail Internet connections?

;) BTW I am nit-picking and will gladly take one … for half the price LOL!

I agree with the DVD-R issue, they could have bundled something nicer.

But as far as XP3200+ goes, in nForce2 Ultra 400 with nice memory (you get great Corsair), it's just as fast as anything P4 wise, bar the 3.2.

FX5900 is a decent power users card, and without knowing what Time paid for it, you can't really say any other card is cheaper. Cheaper to us in retail maybe, but they are a massive OEM, who knows what's cheap for them.

Modem? Some of us can't get broadband, regardless of how much money we have, just down to where we live. I can't, so it'd be useful to me. Plus, it doesn't hurt to just leave it alone and never use it.

It's worth the money, and believe me, I pondered long and hard before coming to that conclusion. You can't really put together anything like the same spec for half the price.

Rys
Nice review there Rys :)

Time in good PC shocker! Blimey, whatever next lol :D
Originally posted by fondie
Nice review, unbiased editorial, i like! A proper end user opinion, like picking up on how annoying a crappy wireless mouse can be rather than just spouting specs and numbers (though they are useful to) = a top review in my books! Where was the 5 pages of slagging pre-confugered systems though? Especially one from such a big brand! Well done Rys :D

Thanks :D

Originally posted by fondie
As for the actual machine, and in fact pre-configured machines in general, you can look at them and see they were built my marketing men, keen to put the biggest spec numbers down, because they know that's what the non-techie looks at when buying a pc. I know if i was building a system with that kind of money that i might sacrifice the very latet processor for a nice logitech cordless desktop mx keyboard and mouse combo and not go for the largest capacity hard drive in favour of a better looking case and a pioneer dvd writer. It's the little things that really effect a pc, the average Time PC whatsitsname system user isn't going to need 250Gb of hard drive space but may well notice a nice shiny case and will certainly appreciate a user friendly keyboard and mouse that they will use for many hours, although i fully appreciate that it may well be difficult to convince them of that in a newspaper advert.

You have a couple of valid points :) The keyboard, mouse, case and DVD-R are all places they could improve, but they did alright on the whole.

Nice effort from a company we usually associate with less than perfect quality.

Rys