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Has the AMD RX 490 appeared in AOtS benchmarks online?

by Mark Tyson on 6 December 2016, 11:01

Tags: AMD (NYSE:AMD)

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Some new Ashes of the Singularity (AOtS) benchmarks published online are causing quite a stir. The benchmark results were found in the AOtS online database and come from a system powered by a GPU with a hardware Device ID of 687F:C18. As noted by Guru3D, Hardware IDs only show up in the database if the GPU hasn't had its name lined up to correspond with such an ID - an unreleased GPU is the natural conclusion.

Considering the nomenclature of Device ID of 687F:C18 for a moment, it is definitely thought to be an AMD GPU as it is constructed similarly to Polaris GPUs, and nothing like any Nvidia Device IDs. However the GPU in this benchmark is much faster than the current cream of the AMD Polaris crop - the RX 480. This leads to the question - if it isn't an RX 490 being tested in the AOtS benchmark - then what else could it be?

The AMD Radeon RX 490 is expected to be a Vega 10 GPU based graphics card. Previous rumours said that the RX 490 might be a dual GPU Polaris card but the AOtS benchmark would have indicated dual-GPU in this case. As you will have heard many times before, and seen in the oft-reproduced Capsaicin roadmap, Vega will provide a further leap beyond Polaris, will come packing HBM2 memory, and is due to launch around the end of 2016 - start of 2017.

Further educated speculation about Vega 10, or the RX 490, points to a card coming with 4096 shader processors, and 8GB to 16GB HBM2 memory at an up-to 512GB/s memory bandwidth. This graphics card is expected to deliver 24TFLOPs half-precision, and 12TFLOPs single-precision compute performance.

The full set of 'RX 490 / Vega 10' AOtS benchmark results from user 'Ceaj' were previously available at this official results browser link. Please note that the link times-out for me, and 'Ceaj' only has recent AOtS benchmark database entries using AMD Radeon R9 Fury and RX 480 graphics cards now available for viewing.



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If it is Vega, it could be all-sorts.

If I were in charge of Vega, I would have tried to make it bump compatible with Fury as that has very similar capabilities and connectivity. That means at release you have partner boards ready to go including ITX boards, water cooled and dual gpu variants.

4096 shaders seems a bit weak. The RX480 has a few more shaders than R9 380 and a ~30% higher clockspeed giving ~50% more performance. Compare this to Fury, you have the same GCN1.2 in Fury and can expect a similar clock bump, but Fury also has 4096 shaders so no gain there. So it mainly comes down to clock speed, that doesn't seem enough.
I dunno, isn't AotS one of the games on which AMD is closer to nvidia anyway? Clock speed alone - assuming Vega can clock in at the same ~1250MHz boost clocks that Polaris hits - would give 25% increase over Fury X. Based on recent GTX 1080 reviews that would push Vega 10 up to somewhere around GTX 1080 performance in many games - particularly those which already favour AMD.

Plus, remember that Vega 10 is the smaller Vega die; Vega 10 with 2 stacks of HBM2 would basically be Fury X+ and trade blows with the GTX 1070/1080, with a much faster Vega 11 card to follow later…?
scaryjim
Plus, remember that Vega 10 is the smaller Vega die; Vega 10 with 2 stacks of HBM2 would basically be Fury X+ and trade blows with the GTX 1070/1080, with a much faster Vega 11 card to follow later…?

Is that right? I thought 10 was always the bigger die and 11 was the cut-down ‘midrange’ die?

If the mid-range Vega can compete with the GTX1080 then it all sounds good, but if this is the big Vega and it's only competing with the GTX1080 then I'm disappointed.
scaryjim
… with a much faster Vega 11 card to follow later…?

I think that is what people really want to see. Vega 10 is sounding like a meh product, a cut down 1070 competitor might be interesting but I suspect the full part will be just the wrong side of the 1080. Who is going to pay top dollar for second place?
DanceswithUnix
scaryjim
… with a much faster Vega 11 card to follow later…?

I think that is what people really want to see. Vega 10 is sounding like a meh product, a cut down 1070 competitor might be interesting but I suspect the full part will be just the wrong side of the 1080. Who is going to pay top dollar for second place?

It all comes down to price, its 95% of the performance for 80% of the cost its a winner.