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Music industry and UK ISPs unite in battle against piracy

by Parm Mann on 24 July 2008, 09:21

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A selection of the UK's biggest Internet service providers have today reached an agreement with the music industry to help combat online piracy.

The ISPs, BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse, have agreed to help the music industry clamp down on the illegal sharing of music via the Internet. The process is believed to begin with thousands of letters being sent to customers suspected of music piracy.

The music industry is ultimately looking for repeat offenders to be disconnected from the Internet by their ISP. Though ISPs themselves are reluctant to take such action, Feargal Sharkey, chief executive of British Music Rights, hails today's agreement as "a first step, and a very big step, in what we all acknowledge is going to be quite a long process".

The ISPs are believed to have signed a Memorandum of Understanding drawn up by the Department for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory Reform. The memorandum is believed to require each ISP to do more to help prevent illegal music sharing.

How much an ISP will be willing to do, however, remains unknown. Charles Dunstone, CEO of Carphone Warehouse, has said:

"Our position is very clear. We are the conduit that gives users access to the Internet. We do not control the Internet, nor do we control what our users do on the Internet."

"I cannot foresee any circumstances in which we would voluntarily disconnect a customer's account on the basis of a third party alleging a wrongdoing," he adds.

How do you feel about the music industry's plans? Have you received a warning from your ISP? Can illegal music sharing ever be stopped? Share your thoughts in the HEXUS.community forums.



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I don't like this - I don't like it one bit.

It infuriates me that they pry in to what I'm downloading…

Does anyone else think the smaller ISPs might gain market share by not signing up for this?
I think it absolutely stinks too.

Allegedly it's BT, Carphone Warehouse, Tiscali, Virgin Media, Orange and Sky.

For shame.
Well at least they're not actually taking any action yet. This is designed, and will probably work, to decrease the vast numbers of teenage “bedroom downloaders” who all hop on limewire every night to download the latest ‘Fiddy album. They at least acknowledge that it’s NOT going to stop people who are a bit more tech savvy and who aren't going to stop just because the BPI sends a threatening letter.

One interesting idea was the government proposing a £30 “levy” to allow people to effectively have a sharing license for music online. An interesting idea certainly that leads one to a number of conclusions. Namely:

1. Well this just sounds like “Protection Money” since when have the BPI become the mafia?

2. They claim that if each of the 7 million music pirates in the UK paid up, it would cover the losses made by the music industry due to piracy. So wait a second, it's not actually to cover the losses made by the artists is it? No.. it's making sure that the BPI bosses keep their fat wallets.

3. If you're going to pay £30, well why not just pay the same for a month's unlimited Napster downloading? Considering it's legal now, you'd probably get more out of it anyway.. Napster “to go” is 14.95 a month, so for two months of getting all those albums you're after, you might as well just pay up. It'll probably be faster than the more “conventional” methods anyway..

Napster is legal, right?

Most ISPs are still against the 3 strikes policy for now, and rightly so. It should be no one's decision, other than a courts. Whether some sort of throttling service would be more appropriate i dunno (although Virgin already does this for free :D) - say if you're caught, they throttle you down to dial up speeds so it's impractical to do anything.

I think they should have fixed fines though. This crap about “unlimited” fines is just stupid. Personally i think you should pay as much as the album is worth plus a flat say, £500-1000 fine for a one off infringement case - so music corps can't say “ah well you donwnloaded Music by Madonna, that'll be $200,000 please - oh wait didn't we tell you, it's up to 8 grand PER SONG”. I mean cry me a river people, music just isn't worth the fines they're trying to justify.
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Well at least they're not actually taking any action yet. This is designed, and will probably work, to decrease the vast numbers of teenage “bedroom downloaders” who all hop on limewire every night to download the latest ‘Fiddy album. They at least acknowledge that it’s NOT going to stop people who are a bit more tech savvy and who aren't going to stop just because the BPI sends a threatening letter.

One interesting idea was the government proposing a £30 “levy” to allow people to effectively have a sharing license for music online. An interesting idea certainly that leads one to a number of conclusions. Namely:

1. Well this just sounds like “Protection Money” since when have the BPI become the mafia?

2. They claim that if each of the 7 million music pirates in the UK paid up, it would cover the losses made by the music industry due to piracy. So wait a second, it's not actually to cover the losses made by the artists is it? No.. it's making sure that the BPI bosses keep their fat wallets.

3. If you're going to pay £30, well why not just pay the same for a month's unlimited Napster downloading? Considering it's legal now, you'd probably get more out of it anyway.. Napster “to go” is 14.95 a month, so for two months of getting all those albums you're after, you might as well just pay up. It'll probably be faster than the more “conventional” methods anyway..

Napster is legal, right?

Most ISPs are still against the 3 strikes policy for now, and rightly so. It should be no one's decision, other than a courts. Whether some sort of throttling service would be more appropriate i dunno (although Virgin already does this for free :D) - say if you're caught, they throttle you down to dial up speeds so it's impractical to do anything.

I think they should have fixed fines though. This crap about “unlimited” fines is just stupid. Personally i think you should pay as much as the album is worth plus a flat say, £500-1000 fine for a one off infringement case - so music corps can't say “ah well you donwnloaded Music by Madonna, that'll be $200,000 please - oh wait didn't we tell you, it's up to 8 grand PER SONG”. I mean cry me a river people, music just isn't worth the fines they're trying to justify.

agreed. there's 0 justification for the obscene numbers that get thrown around
so they are not bothered about people downloading the latest movies?
also can they really detect exactly what you are downloading through bittorrent?

I think it will have an effect on some people, but most will carry on regardless and I don't think the ISP's will want to cut off the millions of people who download through file-sharing programs, as the will have no customers left!

Also how do they know that you don't already own a CD of the music you are downloading? You might just want to download it in another format/high quality file to transfer to an MP3 player.