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Review: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB

by Ryszard Sommefeldt on 7 June 2003, 00:00 4.0

Tags: ATi Technologies (NYSE:AMD)

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Performance Conclusion


So, going over the performance, especially the performance drop graphs, shows us two main things. First, 256MB is useless at the current time. It just smacks of reactionary one upmanship to keep toe to toe with NVIDIA with their completely useless 256MB board. While I applaud the technology needed, it's just a tad silly and very expensive. Let's just let NVIDIA and ATI fight it out up there and save our money for the 128MB boards just now.

Secondly, it highlights what a decent architecture R350 is. While the R300 in our graphs, 9700 Pro, isn't slow, 9800 Pro does some cool stuff to keep performance as high as possible when IQ is enabled and the resolution is pumped up.

Thirdly, it also helps to show us just what a performance bargain 9700 Pro is. In this reviewers eyes, it's the premier graphics accelerator on the market today. If every last frame per second is what you like, you'll laugh at me. For the rest of us that care more about IQ now that cards are fast with IQ features enabled, we'll stick to 9700 Pro due to its price.

As always, I love getting to sample the performance of boards like this. There's no doubting it's simply one of the fastest graphics cards ever produced, THE fastest in some situations (without the silly FX5900 Ultra, I'll reserve judgement totally). It's performance that the midrange will see next year, so be thankful ATI bothered to be silly.

Overclocking

I had to try, it would have been rude not to. The core was happy at 448MHz with a little assistance from a case fan and the memory clock purred along at 384MHz too. That's near 25GB/sec of memory bandwidth. Yum. Here's what that overclock did with an overclocked Barton under the bonnet.

20102 3DMark's

Overall

It's just too expensive to recommend, all that memory comes at a rather large price and it's just not being used in the vast majority of situations. The 128MB board is a much better proposition in terms of price/performance, with 9700 Pro being even better still.

It's very very fast, and for some people that's a must, they can't help themselves. And it's exciting technology, eventually there will be a valid consumer use for it too.

I never thought I'd call it overkill, but it certainly is just now.

Score



Pro's

Oh so fast
Oh so so fast
Best performing card in the world with IQ enabled

Con's

Far too expensive
The memory never gets used unless you like watching Code Creatures at 14fps

Thanks
ATI for the sample
Sapphire for my 9700 Pro

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what memory are you using?
Seems very strange to me - bios uses 100% cpu am i right? so seems the chip can handle that overclock well. I think you should tell us about your whole config Zathras..
Psu?
I know, it's bizarre. I've done a repair reinstall of windows, ie not a full format then reinstall, solved the probs I had when upgrading motherboard last time but not this time. I can get 7.5x200 stable as, prime95, everything. Going just 2mhz over on the FSB and it doesn't load windows. I haven't tried higher FSB and lower multiplier as I want to remove my RAM from the equation of what could be wrong. It'll post at 13x200 and get to what I think is exactly the same stage of loading Windows, as it hangs at the mup.sys step when trying safe mode. I think this may be because it's the last text to be written to the screen before the gui is invoked though, so it may not be totally indicative. I'll probably delete all my Windows directory later on using a repair install on another partition and try a fresh install as I don't want to format and lose god knows how many gb of files.

Okay, full setup as it is now, with minimal PCI cards installed:

Abit NF7Sv2 with bios v24 from Abit official site
Radeon 9500 softmodded to 9700
256mb generic (Scan) PC3200 - tried running at as low as 11-3-3-3 and at 333mhz
Taisol 790062 copper cooler with 80mm Evercool fan, keeps it at 35C running torture tests at 1500mhz
Enermax 350w PSU, all lines within 5% of exact values at 1500mhz/torture testing
Realtek 81329 10/100mbs pci nic
120gb IBM 180gxp hard drive running off serrilel adapter

I've tried all combinations of RAM timings, chipset/ram/core voltages upto 1.9v, the enhance function in the first softmenu on and off.

Any ideas at all?
Definitive answer i suppose would be to run memtest 86 and see if its throwing back errors.
The only other thing I can think of is that you got a complete dog CPU which is a bit of a git :(