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Third stepping’s a charm for AMD Bulldozer?

by Alistair Lowe on 26 October 2011, 08:23

Tags: AMD (NYSE:AMD)

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No sooner had we begun to draft up this story, did AMD remove evidence from its BIOS and Kernel Developer’s Guide, strongly suggesting that a B3 stepping for Bulldozer was already in development.

AMD Bulldozer B3 Stepping Evidence
Image credited to NordicHardware

Current Bulldozer releases are of B2 stepping. A stepping in this instance usually includes minor adjustments such as bug fixes and manufacturing tweaks to improve performance and/or yield. Stepping is a typical practice that all chip-makers follow.

You may remember the notorious TLB bug that was fixed with a stepping update in the original AMD Phenom processors in 2008. The bug caused data corruption under extreme circumstances and it was not safe, in terms of data integrity, to operate the Phenom without a BIOS issued fix, which greatly hampered performance.

Given recent benchmarks, we’d like to think that the Bulldozer is suffering from an equally devastating ailment that can be fixed with a simple stepping update; in reality this is very much likely not to be the case, a small increment from 2 to 3 as opposed to 'B' to 'C' indicates only minor changes, though it may be possible to hope for slight improvements in areas such as power consumption, memory-timing efficiency or the typical overclocking threshold.

At this stage whether a B3 stepping would bring with it any performance improvements is pure conjecture, however popular opinion suggests that the upcoming FX-8170 CPU, due to be released in Q1 2012, will be of B3 stepping and is likely to be clocked at 3.9GHz; and so we may not have too long to find out.

Will a B3 stepping simply enable AMD to produce acceptable numbers of 3.9GHz CPUs, or will it bring with it other performance enhancements? Let us know your thoughts.



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Given recent benchmarks, we’d like to think that the Bulldozer is suffering from an equally devastating ailment that can be fixed with a simple stepping update; in reality this is very much likely not to be the case, a small increment from 2 to 3 as opposed to ‘B’ to ‘C’ indicates only minor changes, though it may be possible to hope for slight improvements in areas such as power consumption, memory-timing efficiency or the typical overclocking threshold.
Pretty much sums it up for me. I think hoping for anything more than a slight increase in power usage is likely to lead to disappointment.
If the increase in power usage isn't substantial i think AMD will be in for another bought of serious geek rage.
Biscuit
Pretty much sums it up for me. I think hoping for anything more than a slight increase in power usage is likely to lead to disappointment.
If the increase in power usage isn't substantial i think AMD will be in for another bought of serious geek rage.
Erm - I'm confused - didn't you mean “decrease” rather than “increase”? Although, I suppose winter is coming, so having a BD-powered “space heater” for the room might be good. ;)

Still not sure whether BD is a disappointment or not. Think the most sensible approach is to wait until prices stabilise a bit more and then decide whether the price premium for a top-end SB is worth it.
crossy
Erm - I'm confused - didn't you mean “decrease” rather than “increase”? Although, I suppose winter is coming, so having a BD-powered “space heater” for the room might be good. ;)

Still not sure whether BD is a disappointment or not. Think the most sensible approach is to wait until prices stabilise a bit more and then decide whether the price premium for a top-end SB is worth it.

Sorry i meant increase in power efficiency, was early :p

Even at the right price point bulldozer i still think its a disappointment really, in a lot of cases its slower than Phenom II and only in fairly obscure tests it shows any discernible improvement over SB. This should have been AMDs chance to jack the prices up a bit and gain some lost market share but instead its just another mid range pile of yawn which will struggle to sell in the enthusiast market and force AMD to pull the prices down to be competitive.

If anything its proven a good source of release for ranting so thanks to AMD for that!
An interesting architecture which depends on ‘fingers crossed’ future abilities of the chip? It's AMD's equivalent of the P4 Netburst architecture all over again….
I feel really bad for AMD, having no strong affiliation for any one chip company be it CPU or GPU, but i think if AMD fail it is bad news for us all.
Likening it to netburst isn't particularly fair. Netburst brought nothing to the table really. At least BD has brought a new design approach to processors.

Once they iron out the kinks and windows gets an update, people will change their tunes….unlike anyone did with netburst!

I would even like to see them take the BD design further…..pull more and more instructions out into highly-specific units to make a more RISC-like modular CPU.