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Posted by Myss_tree - Thu 23 Jun 2016 11:03
Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.
Posted by mortispriest - Thu 23 Jun 2016 11:07
xD no comment
Posted by Nifl - Thu 23 Jun 2016 12:43
Should be increased to $12 billion instead.
Posted by kalniel - Thu 23 Jun 2016 12:55
Myss_tree
Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.

What an interesting idea. I like it. I'm not sure the EU is a big enough market to have a competitor jump into the space in a big way, but it's a neat thought that might encourage some smaller folks or China to give it a go.
Posted by shaithis - Thu 23 Jun 2016 13:08
These cases do make a little confused at times, it's as if there is a limit on just how “capitalist” your allowed to be…….
Posted by kalniel - Thu 23 Jun 2016 13:18
shaithis
These cases do make a little confused at times, it's as if there is a limit on just how “capitalist” your allowed to be…….

Which indeed there is. People want the work in progress bit of capitalism, not the steady state conclusion where the best out-competes all its competitors to death.
Posted by ik9000 - Thu 23 Jun 2016 13:24
kalniel
Which indeed there is. People want the work in progress bit of capitalism, not the steady state conclusion where the best out-competes all its competitors to death.

and monopoly position is the death of free market economics, hence anti-monopoly oversight and laws regarding adequate competition…
Posted by Corky34 - Thu 23 Jun 2016 14:43
Nifl
Should be increased to $12 billion instead.

Even then it would only be a single years net income for Intel, they should double it and give half to AMD. :devilish:

shaithis
These cases do make a little confused at times, it's as if there is a limit on just how “capitalist” your allowed to be…….

And with good reason, capitalism doesn't have morals or ethics, capitalism would be the death of us all if it wasn't for rules, regulations, and laws, I'm not knocking capitalism BTW, it's a great thing but like a fire can keep you warm and cook your food it can also burn down you house if left unchecked.
Posted by Ogami - Thu 23 Jun 2016 14:48
Myss_tree
Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.

You might as well just completely shut down Intel as a company then. Everything in value to the Intel brand would plummet, maybe even beyond recovery.
Posted by chinf - Thu 23 Jun 2016 15:06
Ogami
Myss_tree
Rather than a fine maybe a better course of action for cases such as this would be to remove their patent rights.

You might as well just completely shut down Intel as a company then. Everything in value to the Intel brand would plummet, maybe even beyond recovery.

I wonder how critical patent protection really is in preserving and promoting Intel's technological and production capability lead from competition.
Posted by Xlucine - Fri 24 Jun 2016 00:00
That's an absurd idea, AMD has been making x86 processors for ages and intel is still going strong.

kalniel
What an interesting idea. I like it. I'm not sure the EU is a big enough market to have a competitor jump into the space in a big way, but it's a neat thought that might encourage some smaller folks or China to give it a go.

Does ARM have an x86 licence?
Posted by kalniel - Fri 24 Jun 2016 10:00
Xlucine
Does ARM have an x86 licence?

Not as far as I know, only AMD and Intel.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Fri 24 Jun 2016 10:43
kalniel
Not as far as I know, only AMD and Intel.

And VIA.

Pretty sure IBM have permenant license rights, but can't see them bothering to use it.

The 386 should be well out of patent protection by now, in fact the Pentium is over 20 years old too. It seems there is an open source x86: http://opencores.org/project,zet86

Though I would have thought that working on an x86 is considered like working on the Trabant of the CPU world and other projects are more interesting for people to dabble in as a hobby.
Posted by mers - Sun 26 Jun 2016 12:32
I'm suing everyone , I still have the patent rights for the Abacus. Intel was underhand in their practices and they know it , probably like 90% of all businesses out their. Ethics don't apply when it comes to big companies.
Posted by gregzeng - Thu 30 Jun 2016 06:23
How many, and which other national governments are doing this as well?
Posted by Sunderas - Wed 13 Jul 2016 21:41
Only 1.2 Billion?!
Posted by ultrasbm - Sun 17 Jul 2016 13:20
Imagine what the prices of CPU's would be if Intel were given total free reign…

Can't make a good product that people want to buy? Pay the distributors and shops to only sell yours. F'ck the consumer.
Posted by Sunderas - Fri 29 Jul 2016 10:57
shaithis
These cases do make a little confused at times, it's as if there is a limit on just how “capitalist” your allowed to be…….

This falls within the same kind of concept of anti-dumping laws. Get a good read over as I think it might help you wrap you head around this subject.