8000 doesn't seem that plentiful for the whole of NA to me. Any comment from friendly retailers?
why can't they put the power points on the rear side. would make for tidier systems!
silent
why can't they put the power points on the rear side. would make for tidier systems!
I imagine that would be against the PCI-E spec as I don't believe cards are allowed to be much wider than the slot on the right hand side to ensure cards on the right fit. Annoying but imagine thats why no one has done it.
Really excited for the 480 and glad they have decently levels of stock. I might even get a reference cooler if the reviews are good!
cheesemp
… I might even get a reference cooler if the reviews are good!
I too am awaiting the reviews…and if the pricing is as good as it appears to be then the RX480 will be my new card.
By the time 480 launches Nvidia would have sold 500,000 G1070's and 200,000 G1080's…feeling disapointed at AMD
lumireleon
By the time 480 launches Nvidia would have sold 500,000 G1070's and 200,000 G1080's…feeling disapointed at AMD
Gibbo said OcUK sold 1000 GTX1080 cards since launch. In the same thread he said he expects to sell 500 RX480 cards on the LAUNCH day. He also said they are stocking both 4GB and 8GB cards.
So they are going to sell 500 on launch day and the whole of NA gets 8,000. Something seems wrong, was the NA number supposed to say 80,000 or 800,000 ?
lumireleon
By the time 480 launches Nvidia would have sold 500,000 G1070's and 200,000 G1080's…feeling disapointed at AMD
Yes you can buy the 1080, the problem is though it take forever to get the mentioned item, being able to have 8000 spot on is a lot, Nvidia is lacking on that department actually having some sort of ready stock whenever they launch VGA cards, at least that is my experience.
Andy14
So they are going to sell 500 on launch day and the whole of NA gets 8,000. Something seems wrong, was the NA number supposed to say 80,000 or 800,000 ?
If we assume that other major retailers are the same as OCUK at 500 on launch day: OCUK, Aria, Scan, Ebuyer, CCL, Amazon, Novatech, 1x other/combined smaller players = 4k cards
This is a
very rough, and imho
very generous guesstimate.
8000 on launch day for the US sounds a bit tight but not too bad, assuming there's decent stock flow following the initial rush.
OCUK is a massive site for high end GPU sales in the UK. It is likely they got the lion's share of 1080s.
Bagnaj97
8000 on launch day for the US sounds a bit tight but not too bad, assuming there's decent stock flow following the initial rush.
If it's as popular as people are making it sound, 8000 isn't going to be anywhere near enough and the price gouging might start.
cheesemp
I imagine that would be against the PCI-E spec as I don't believe cards are allowed to be much wider than the slot on the right hand side to ensure cards on the right fit. Annoying but imagine thats why no one has done it.
Really excited for the 480 and glad they have decently levels of stock. I might even get a reference cooler if the reviews are good!
my error, i meant on the back of the card nearest the front of the case :)
silent
my error, i meant on the back of the card nearest the front of the case :)
I'm sure AIB partners will put it there on some cards, but you will see why they can't on the reference design - the PCB is very short and stops some-way short of the total cooler shroud. So you couldn't have a connector on the edge as the PCB doesn't go that far, but it does contact the top of the card. Hence why the connector looks like it's in the middle of the cooler.
shaithis
If it's as popular as people are making it sound, 8000 isn't going to be anywhere near enough and the price gouging might start.
There's a lot of hype surrounding the launch, and there will be a rush, but I don't think it'll be as large as people are expecting. A lot of the hype is among enthusiasts and I expect a lot of enthusiasts to already have cards at a similar performance level, or close enough that an upgrade isn't worthwhile. Enthusiasts wanting a 480 are also probably likely to wait for non-reference cards.
My prediction is that it'll have consistently high ongoing sales following a smaller launch than the hype would suggest. I also expect the 460 and 470 will
massively outsell the 480 - onboard graphics these days are competent enough for a lot of people. If they do look for an upgrade then a cheap discrete card gives a huge boost - 750ti is still a very popular card despite its age, but the 460 should de-throne it.
lumireleon
By the time 480 launches Nvidia would have sold 500,000 G1070's and 200,000 G1080's…feeling disapointed at AMD
but that's different market segments, I don't think there will be many people who buy $400 or $600 when their budget is $200
Is Hexus going to have a review of the 480 day one? Also, if you happen to have a review for day one can you launch the review midnight on the 29th please!! LOL
That 8000 number might be from one online retailer or maybe a couple. I doubt they can actually get the entire number for the country. 8000 is definitely low. Then again its an international launch including china and europe.
TRUTHnTRINITY
Is Hexus going to have a review of the 480 day one?
You bet they are!!
Who knows….G1060 is around coming silently
TRUTHnTRINITY
Is Hexus going to have a review of the 480 day one? Also, if you happen to have a review for day one can you launch the review midnight on the 29th please!! LOL
Unless as has been rumoured the release gets moved forward a week :)
Was hoping I'd be able to budget for the 8GiB model, but given other renewal bills coming around the corner, looks like I'll have to wait a bit longer now to get one, in spite of the decent numbers to be available at launch.
On the bright side, it'll probably mean I'll be able to get a model with a nice custom cooler or have time to work out if my current Thermalright Shaman can be made to fit on an RX 480!
Does sell 500 cards mean take 500 orders, or ship 500 cards? Very different meanings for day one stock availability
DanceswithUnix
Unless as has been rumoured the release gets moved forward a week :)
It is quite early for reports of stock availability to surface, I don't remember this happening before any Nvidia launches
silent
my error, i meant on the back of the card nearest the front of the case :)
This could pose issues in smaller cases that are limited in GPU length - the plug and cabling would add at least an inch to the back of the card. Space to the side of the card is generally reliably there due to the pressure of CPU coolers on case width
shaithis
If it's as popular as people are making it sound, 8000 isn't going to be anywhere near enough and the price gouging might start.
A bit of price gouging wouldn't be a bad thing, as long as it doesn't get as bad as with Nvidia cards. E-tailers and board partners getting fat profits from an AMD GPU would encourage them to design more AMD products, and if the increase in price was an issue for anyone they can simply wait a few weeks for the stock levels to settle down
lumireleon
By the time 480 launches Nvidia would have sold 500,000 G1070's and 200,000 G1080's…feeling disapointed at AMD
You think 700,000 high end graphics cards have sold in a single month?
Wanted a 1080, no way was I paying the prices asked and even then there was and still is none available from Amazon. Not prepared to lay out that sort of money on a graphics card on anywhere but Amazon due to EVERY other retailer in the UK or Europe being absolutely horrible to deal with when something goes wrong and they require RMA (looking at you in particular Scan !)
Going to just dump Nvidia for the first time in over a decade and get an 8gb AMD 480 instead from Amazon.
Arthoin
but that's different market segments, I don't think there will be many people who buy $400 or $600 when their budget is $200
If that was the case NV wouldn't be getting 60-70% of their revenue from HIGH-END gaming cards.
The first run of titans was 100K and sold in a no time IIRC, and that beast was $1000 (titanx sold more). For a card that is $200, this seems like a 5 minute affair of hitting refresh to get one bought and they'll all be gone. I remember doing that for nexus 10…LOL. This should be at least Titan's first run right? So 8K in USA means what, 25K world wide? I would figure this number for Vega or something on a bad launch day (1/4 of NV's titan run? NV owns 78% vs. AMD 22% so makes sense), not a ~small mainstream chip that shouldn't have ramping issues. Lumireleon is right, and actually NV will be selling them all the way to xmas for top dollar if AMD doesn't put out Vega before then. AMD just said a “long way to go” for Vega. IN 2014 61% of NV's revenue came from high-end gaming cards. WOW.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/31/nvidias-1000-beast-is-selling-out.aspxIt is probably more now that they are taxing what they can (IE, 1080/1070 founders tax) and still selling out for 1080 faster than ANY high-end gpu to date according to multiple retail/vendor sources.
http://fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40947-geforce-gtx-1080-sold-out-selling-excellentI wish AMD had release Vega first. Whatever NV couldn't stock on shelves AMD would surely get in this high-end love fest these days. Even Intel is slapping on founders taxes…LOL. All four HEDT chips stacked on top, no price drops. Now $1733 chips. WOW. I hope ZEN is fast enough to be able to charge over $153 bucks finally for AMD chips again. They need to re-enter the price gouging Intel/NV areas where they make all their revenue. Not saying I'd pay that tax, just that I'm happy those users exist so I can pick up something very fast for $300/400 for cpu/gpu and people below guys like me should be happy we exist to give them reasonably fast stuff for $200 each for gpu/cpu while being quiet, low watts/heat. Great tech hitting now. But AMD seems to be aiming at the crowd that can't pull in massive revenue/margin/profits. IE Console (single digit margins, escalating to mid-teens and only now a die shrink to up that possibly), and low-end gpu. UGH. Aim higher AMD! NV will be selling like mad in high-end until Black Friday/xmas now.
I would have liked to have seen these cards launched a lot earlier. Methinks that AMD have shot themselves in the foot with such a late launch, but it will all depend on the reviews. I'm sure some reviewers are just itching to post them !
Nvidias launch of the 10 series has been a fiasco. A pricing structure that hasn't been followed. Not enough supply to meet demand. Contradictory messages about SLI. Misleading temperature information from their Texas press event etc…
I think AMD are doing the right thing with their product management; there aren't many who can afford to stretch to 1080-level prices, even before considering the modest performance improvement over the previous generation.
I really do hope there is a decent supply of the RX480 cards. With the pound exchange rate going south I don't want to wait very much longer to upgrade my HD6850!