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Posted by Tattysnuc - Tue 04 Aug 2015 15:55
Why have they changed the naming convention? This product offers nothing but confusion and is completely underwhelming… A launch for the sake of a launch….
Posted by shaithis - Tue 04 Aug 2015 16:00
A laptop chip that can be put in a desktop board then?

Can't say I am going to be doing cartwheels over Iris Pro.
Posted by abaxas - Tue 04 Aug 2015 16:36
What we want is a i3 with iris pro at about £100-£120.

Will intel make one…. about as much chance as the UK winning the eurovision song contest.
Posted by Myss_tree - Tue 04 Aug 2015 18:29
abaxas
What we want is a i3 with iris pro at about £100-£120.

Which would be competively priced against the A10 7870K, comparing it with an i7 at three times the price is plain ridiculous.
If you exclude gaming but want a high performing CPU for video rendering then the i7 looks decent but how much more decent than a 4790K which is a lot cheaper.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Tue 04 Aug 2015 19:07
Would love to see what compiler speeds are like on this chip.

Really, the whole thing is a bit meh with a promise of a meh overclock. The stand out feature so far is Winrar, which I never use but seems to love the big cache.

Posted by Tunnah - Tue 04 Aug 2015 20:34
There can't be a market for this. The person who is willing to stick to integrated graphics is probably budget conscious. And if it's a gaming machine they're gonna build, for the price of the intel chip you could get an AMD CPU & discreet card
Posted by Jowsey - Tue 04 Aug 2015 20:57
DanceswithUnix
Would love to see what compiler speeds are like on this chip.

Really, the whole thing is a bit meh with a promise of a meh overclock. The stand out feature so far is Winrar, which I never use but seems to love the big cache.


The truly terrifying thing about this graph is the constantly increasing cost. =/
Posted by Michael H - Tue 04 Aug 2015 21:37
I think it's fair to consider this a niche product, and it seems that Intel are treating it as such. With 22nm yields being exceptional, and 14nm still developing there was little financial incentive for Intel to move their desktop product stack to 14nm - on the mobile side 14nm opened new posibilities with the Core M, but otherwise whether they sold Haswell or Broadwell there wasn't a great deal in it.

This release fills the niche for a high performance IGP on the Z97 platform, but also acts as a trial run for socketed eDRAM ahead of Skylake. It's hard to see there being much demand though as it's too expensive to really consider as a drop-in upgrade for an existing system, and for a new-build Skylake is just around the corner.

Intel could have been forgiven skipping socketed-Broadwell for the mainstream. Broadwell was a useful step forward for laptops and AIO that rely on IGP performance, but they were already served by the BGA chips. The real-world use scenario for socketed-Broadwell on Z97 is harder to see, but I guess that's why their launch has been so under-the-radar.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Tue 04 Aug 2015 21:41
Tunnah
There can't be a market for this. The person who is willing to stick to integrated graphics is probably budget conscious. And if it's a gaming machine they're gonna build, for the price of the intel chip you could get an AMD CPU & discreet card

Market is people who want the latest i7 with the biggest number.

It can't manage the same clock speeds as Haswell, so I think it needs that expensive ram chip to stay competitive in games.
Posted by alsmith - Tue 04 Aug 2015 22:45
abaxas
What we want is a i3 with iris pro at about £100-£120.

Will intel make one…. about as much chance as the UK winning the eurovision song contest.

Does anyone really care if the UK wins the Eurovision song contest? I think more would care about an i3 with iris pro.
Posted by zen1966 - Tue 04 Aug 2015 23:43
abaxas
What we want is a i3 with iris pro at about £100-£120.

Will intel make one…. about as much chance as the UK winning the eurovision song contest.

Give us an overclockable i3 with the cheapest onboard graphics going instead, thanks. Would sell by the bucketload, but they gave us a Pentium instead. Well at least it seemed seemed a lot more interesting pre-launch than Broadwell.
Posted by CK_1985 - Wed 05 Aug 2015 09:47
Never thought I'd see the day that Intel had the most powerful IGP! :surprised:
Agree with the other comments that this will have extremely limited appeal though - just way too expensive for the usual target market.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Wed 05 Aug 2015 11:24
CK_1985
Never thought I'd see the day that Intel had the most powerful IGP! :surprised:

They are in danger of having the best Linux drivers as well if they carry on the way they are.

Carrizo has updated shaders, so could get the crown back if you can put one in a desktop motherboard and whack a big heatsink on it. Find one at all would be nice.