They're hilariously expensive, and I don't actually *like* the UI. Personally, I get on very well with Windows Phone 8.1 for a fraction of the cost.
I refuse to pay more for less!
Hate the lack of a physical back button
Don't like the UI
Price is outrageous.
Hate the restrictions
iPhones are for technically dumb housewives who believe everything they hear from their friends and want to keep up appearances. The tech savvy know that you can get better hardware for cheaper. Also I can't stand apple's business practises, they make me want to frakkin puke !
Here were my major complaints when I was using a 4S couple years ago:
Overly Expensive (but can get over that)
Unable to remove unwanted apps - Every iPhone owner I know has a “CRAP” or “DO NO WANT” folder on their homescreen
Forced to open links in Safari / Apple Maps even with other applications installed (I like chrome / gapps thank you very much!)
Having to use iTunes to put stuff on the device
Limited formats supported for said media
NO WIDGETS! I love widgets!
Thats what comes to mind at the moment but its enough. Why would I pay OVER what I would for another device AND have to live with things that piss me off.
If you have the technical know how you can get alot more out of an android phone with the options of the ROMs etc.
Also they seem alot more brittle than android alternatives.
All of the above.
And it's too trendy for me.
I've been put off Apple devices by Apple. First they tried to outlaw Jail breaking their devices and then set to stealing all of their update ideas from the jail break community.
With Apple you can buy their devices but never truly own them.
Far to expansive for what they are.
£100 cheaper and I would probably have one, as it stands you can get a comparable / higher spec Android / Windows phone for a lot less.
my cheapo Samsung pay an go which I bought in jan 2011 still works. why do I need to upgrade it?
got a Asus memo HD7 for apps and photo/video why do I need a phone that does the same.
I like only having to charge my phone once a month, not once every day or 2.
I got my phone with £11 on it (£10 credit + 10% bonus) in jan 2011, just checked and im down to £2.20 in 4 years use. haven't topped up once.
what would I do with an iphone that will just sit there and not be used to talk to people. if I want to talk to people whats wrong with face-2-face or is that old fashiond now?
1. iTunes
2. For a long time there were many features on Android that simply were not available on iOS (switching between apps quickly, inter-app integration, quick settings adjustment, notification viewer, homescreen widgets etc etc) and for that reason I preferred Android. In many of these areas Apple has somewhat caught up, however I have invested into apps from the Google play store and do not wish to have to invest again.
3. iTunes
4. The price of the handsets is very high, for build quality that often does not meet expectations that would be demanded by such a price tag.
5. iTunes
6. Their devices are often more fragile than cheaper, better featured Android/Windows phones.
7. iTunes
8. Apple has a limited hardware portfolio, there are many more options available supporting Android and I like to have choice when it comes to an Upgrade.
9. iTunes
10. Community support. Once a handsets official support has ended on Android (or even before, if you so desire), there is often pretty decent community support to allow you to continue adding updates.
11. iTunes
I don't at the moment as my 6 yr old Blackberry is still just surviving - but I will be later in the year.
I will expect to keep it for 5 years, and I really don't want a phone that I need to jail break to get the best out of it. It fits in with the Apple infrastructure I am adopting, and I distrust Apple's infrastructure less than I distrust Googles.
There is nothing wrong with an Android device, I have a tablet with android on it, butat the end of the day a phone is just a communication tool, not something I want to faff around with, or spend ages choosing which of many JAAPs (Just another Android Phone) to choose from. Life is too short.
But for those that do, crack on, you have the choice.
But it does make me smile seeing the vitriol the fanboys in whatever camp pour upon the others, with the sheep ‘joke’ (ignoring the ‘sheep’ that slavishly follow windows, or whatever.)
But 'twas ever thus, I still see M$ and Windoze and micro$oft comments from time to time. :)
I refuse to join the Apple Cult. Why pay a premium price just to brag about owning an Apple?
I love iphone
Its in ma wishlist
ma new year resolution was iPhone or no phone.
Wating for hexus compition result.
I refuse to give a single penny of my money to Apple for their grossly overpriced tech.
Like Biscuit, iTunes. Price also, you can get some nice premium android phones now (I do love the HTC m7/m8!). Oh did I mention iTunes?
I did like the iPhones though, I had my iPhone 4 for 3 years and I customised it by replacing it with a different coloured screen, replaced the whole housing etc and it was jailbroken. It did eventually get too slow though and since moving to Android I haven't looked back.
besides hating the minimum widget UI, virtually no personalisation and in my family only non-tech savvy people own apple products (generally elder members). after setting up my parents Ipad Air found that itunes still sux. outdated as my previous use of this program was about 10 years ago and things have not changed. installing Apps via Itunes WTF.
I for Just don't like the fact that they glorify everything and make a big fuss on how great their products are. The old Apple Mac's(PowerPC) where great but the way they over price everything just to make it premium is just plane stupid.
I currently Own a Nokia 1020, and it is a much better user experience than what apple offer. For those, “There's not an app for that” on the windows store, I say that's because windows hole user interface has everything you need built in. Also I have an Android tablet which has all the other apps you need(Games)
So Apple needs to lower their prices or do as they did with the 1st gen iPhone and create something that is of the highest spec's and quality.
Because they are darn too expensive.
Ridiculously high prices for quite bad specs frankly. Also the platform itself is very closed off, this is useful for monitoring apps and ensuring everything runs correctly since theres very few hardware combinations for app developers to consider but as a whole I found iOS too limiting on my iPod Touch 4th Gen. Made the switch to a Moto G 4G recently and it was not only cheaper but far more powerful and so far havent had any issues with android.
Only issue I have had with android is video downloader apps. iOS was spoilt for choice with good ones as long as you didnt mind an ad banner, Android however I'm yet to find one that actually works well after trying out quite a few. To be expected from google I guess but the iOS popout player rather than Android in-browser player seemed to give app developers much better support for downloading videos.
I had a 4. It got slow, fast, and the battery lasted half a day tops with even light use. I swapped over to Android, and I never looked back. Very happy with my cheap and cheerful Moto G that runs anything thrown at it.
I use Android. Dont like the I phone.
Initially because I rooted for the underdog (Android) about 5 years ago, and now I have an investment in the Android ecosystem. Also everyone with an iPhone has a cracked screen.
Will not own an Apple product. Really hate Apple and cannot get used to there software
Apple don't sell up to date tech (iphones, I should add) - that's why I don't pay over inflated sums for their products. Expensive toys made by cheap hands.
I just upgraded and went with an iphone 5c. Why? because I got the phone for £27 on a 1000 min, unlimited texts and 2gb of data for £27 a month contract.
The iPhone 6+ is the first iPhone that i have liked the look of.
I like to buy my phone then choose a sim, iPhones are simply to expensive for me to buy outright.
I also dislike Apple's wall garden and do not want to have to use itunes.
iTunes has to be number 1, hate it with a passion, then price followed by the restrictive OS.
Last iPhone I had as a personal phone was the 3G and cant see my going back at the moment. Paying top price without the specs to match. My work phone is a 5s which I just have to live with.
nichomach
They're hilariously expensive, and I don't actually *like* the UI. Personally, I get on very well with Windows Phone 8.1 for a fraction of the cost.
What he said :)
I currently have a Nokia 5320 (it's going for its 7th year with nonstop use ) and as long as it makes phone calls, send/receive messages, plays MP3 and rings an alarm to wake me up everyday, I'm fine. I don't need an iPhone or any other fancy smartphone, I can have the smartness inside a computer.
My LG G3 is a way better phone than the iPone 6. The G3 has a better screen, more CPU and graphics power, longer battery life, a huge selection of free apps and better OS. Only a fool would pay more for the lesser iPhone. Sorry all you Apple drones!
I'd just like to say 2 things.
1: I don't want to have my phone ring and 30 different people check their phones.
2: Apple's sales, however awesome the number might seem, make up 11.7% of total phone market share. Android has 84.4%.
iTunes is a right piece of junk on windows.
I don't use anything else apple (I do have an old v1 ipod nano I don't use though)
I don't need a phone that costs upwards of £400 to make phone calls, sat nav, email and browse the web when a phone like the moto g does it all just as well (if not better).
My phone doesn't bend in my pocket or have a glass back that can be easily broken….
The requirement to use the phone how they want us to use it not how I want to use it, their built in software might be the best option but I want the option to choose another if I prefer it.
Didn't like the original OS, the new one looks better but still has the same issues - always seems convoluted to get the simplest things done.
Even now with my current phone I still don't like prodding at my screen with my fingers/thumbs… a stylus always felt/feels more accurate to me although I'm not going to shell out on a Samsung note either.
I never take notice of ‘media popularity’, ie the current ‘apple can do no wrong’ in papers/blogs etc when they seem to have had more issues with their software of late than google has with android….
I still use android although I'm seriously considering switching to Windows mobile, even with it's restrictions… I seem to use more of MS's software/services than anything else these days.
All of the above and just the massive hype about how good they are. Then 13 months down the line when ios7/8/9/x don't install/upgrade cos you don't have enough space cos Apple won't let you use expandable memory unless you shell out stupid money for it rears it's ugly head.
Oh and itunes. Possibly the worst piece of software (on windows especially) foistered on the world's population with no alternative…
I hate Apple and their overpriced rubbish. My Moto G does everything I could want it to.
I just prefer an Android phone as you can get alot more use out of them if unlocked / rooted, plus when official support / updates stop you can still upgrade to the latest software w/o having to buy a new handset.
I hate walled gardens, so I will never own an Apple product. I go out of my way to avoid being trendy and detest anything that resembles a messianic cult, which Apple fandom certainly does. I also hate paying more for less, which has always been what Apple has offered, and would in any case never even consider buying a phone/tablet without expandable storage.
Don't like how restrictive they are and the tie-in.
Their business practises.
Price for what you get.
lol at these why pay more people, apple products hold their value when you sell on
JOIN US!
or die:naughty:
I'm not a sheep, and my OnePlus One is an iPhone 6 Plus competitor, and I didn't have to sell a kidney to pay for it.
Mostly cost to me, windows phone seems the best for me these days, got my lumia 520 free on a £7 a month contract and its epic compared to the android phones of the same price.
Darth Sidious;3430834
lol at these why pay more people, apple products hold their value when you sell on
JOIN US!
or die:naughty:
I don't sell on my computer/phones… I use it till it dies…. not all of us want to go through the hassle of selling a phone to someone else. Also no point updating something that works fine just to get ‘the latest fashion accessory’
Apple avaids Tax meaning that we the Tax payer have to carry the cost of this company
They use slave labour at the cost of peoples lives
and I am not paying for a product that is a complete rip off
Apple = the biggest corporate scumbags I could ever speak off so no I am not going to be another sheep to scum like this
As an owner of a HTC One M7 google play edition I have a phone that is just as good with no limitations for less than the price of an iPhone 6. Oh and I've been enjoying that for 3 years way before Apple could get their product to market. I'm not a hipster ****.
I personally like having a phone for a reasonable price, without being restricted to certain apps and programs. Having a phone that is unique is also a bonus, as well as liking android and having android phones for years. Plus the new iPhones are too big for my small hands, making them harder to use.
I have a lumia 630, it costs me £7.50 a month and does everything I could ever ask for. Simples!
Why do Hexus feel the need to do an editorial/blatant advert piece? They must be paying you quite a bit for you to reason something this bare faced is acceptable.
Their tech is very behind times, their business practices are quite terrible, their ecosystem is a self-serving bubble and their kit is vastly overpriced. Why the hell WOULD you own an iphone?
LSG501
I don't sell on my computer/phones… I use it till it dies…. not all of us want to go through the hassle of selling a phone to someone else. Also no point updating something that works fine just to get ‘the latest fashion accessory’
most do tho so you are in a minority, and even years down the line iphone 4s get a lot when sold on.
MickyTek
Apple avaids Tax meaning that we the Tax payer have to carry the cost of this company
They use slave labour at the cost of peoples lives
and I am not paying for a product that is a complete rip off
Apple = the biggest corporate scumbags I could ever speak off so no I am not going to be another sheep to scum like this
utter horse **** virtually all phones use samsung chips which use the same labour, and if you think apple are worse then the petro chemical industry I question your knowledge on corporations
LOL at you
My biggest gripe is that when you drop it, the screen cracks and you have to fork out £200 for a new screen!
Darth Sidious;3430861
most do tho so you are in a minority, and even years down the line iphone 4s get a lot when sold on.
not in my circle of friends I'm not… I think you're misjudging the amount of people who sell their phones etc and ‘must have’ the latest fashion accessory.
besides I could easily replace my phone 3-4 times for the cost of an iPhone (I don't do long term contracts either) with phones which are MORE than capable of covering the needs of 90% of smartphone users.
They are locked down, over priced and over hyped “accessories”.
Poor innovation since the first iPhone, lack of support of new tech, no understanding of a users storage needs and its inability to transfers files using any PC.
And need I mention no micro USB?
However despite this, Apple are really blessed with a brilliant marketing team.
OilSheikh
My biggest gripe is that when you drop it, the screen cracks and you have to fork out £200 for a new screen!
Except that you don't. I smashed the screen on my 1 month old iPhone 6. I called around and then took it to the local Apple store who replaced it the same day for £79. Keep on spreading the FUD though.
I can get more out of an android device and unlike IOS I don't have to include my blood type and a recent stool sample just to access the Play store.
1. Expensive starting price and ridiculous price if you want decent onboard storage.
2. The bloatware
3. Having to use ITunes to transfer media onto it.
4. Smaller screen size prier to the 6 and 6 plus.
b0redom
Except that you don't. I smashed the screen on my 1 month old iPhone 6. I called around and then took it to the local Apple store who replaced it the same day for £79. Keep on spreading the FUD though.
Perhaps, they have reduced the price now with iPhone 6. But, with iPhone 5, a colleague had to pay £200 to Apple store to get it fixed and I have heard similar experiences from other people at work as well.
The question to ask is why people put so much faith in superbrands and not try the alternatives??
At the beginning of One-Dimensional Man Marcuse writes, “The people recognize themselves in their commodities; they find their soul in their automobile, hi-fi set, split-level home, kitchen equipment,”meaning that under capitalism (in consumer society) humans become extensions of the commodities that they buy, thus making commodities extensions of people's minds and bodies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13416598And when a team of neuroscientists with an MRI scanner took a look inside the brain of an Apple fanatic it seemed the bishop was on to something.
The results suggested that Apple was actually stimulating the same parts of the brain as religious imagery does in people of faith.
Companies such as Apple are promoting religious levels of faith in the people who buy their products and hence will always buy them irrespective of how good they are.
Cost, Locked down environment, Cult following disproportionate to the product and Not innovative as a company these days.
LSG501
not in my circle of friends I'm not… I think you're misjudging the amount of people who sell their phones etc and ‘must have’ the latest fashion accessory.
besides I could easily replace my phone 3-4 times for the cost of an iPhone (I don't do long term contracts either) with phones which are MORE than capable of covering the needs of 90% of smartphone users.
latest fashion?
its basic upgrading, the numbers say you are wrong Apple is tapping it
Pay more for less. I have a G2 and to me it's still the best phone on the market. Apple OS actually hinders performance of hardware. All Aple products are overpriced and perform worse than similar hardware specd technology from cellphone/tablets all the way to computers. I despise them as a company and the people that continue to support them I pity. That is all.
I use a phone for one purpose and one purpose only - to dial 7 (or 10, when needed) digits, and TALK to the person on the other end of the line. It doesn't matter if it's a land line or a cell phone. So in that regard, I don't own a smartphone, period.
I also don't own any Apple products - I don't think they're all that special, and I don't think they're all that original. Going back to the good old days of the 6502's, both Atari and Commodore made the Apple look like a weak sister. Nothing has changed. They don't innovate - they take or buy ideas/tech from others, and put their own stamp on it.
Add to that the above mentioned cult like status, and what more do you need?
Too expensive.
Horrible GUI.
Restrictive Environment.
Low Hackability.
Poor company ethics.
Half a billion is not actually that much… There are roughly 7 billion people in the world, so half a billion is one fourteenth, or 7.15 percent… Not so impressive now is it!!
Let's see:
1)It's overpriced
2)It's overpriced
3)It's overpriced
4)I can't stand the “innovation” maybe I'm a self unaware ludite
5)I'm an idiot ( as the latest “research” showed the iPhone users are smarter ) even though I'm an MD on a PhD track.
6)I'm extremely poor ( an average middle class lad)
7)I live in the slams,dumps.
8)I'm not cool,in fashion,I'm ugly ( don't have any tattoos,wash every day,not into hip hop “monkeyisms”,haven't done drugs, have all my teeth and shave clean).
9)Musically uneducated to appreciate iTunes and the latest ghetto tunes.
10)I'm not an apple shareholder to receive one for free, or in need to buy and boost the share price.
11)I'm a Google shareholder
12)And a Microsoft one too
13)I'm a poweruser and need root access
14)Will win one on a coming Hexus contest , why pay for it?Even then I'll kill it for an AMD 380
15)Jobs isn't around to persuade me buying one.
16)Because Doctor uses a sonic screwdriver and not an iPhone
17)Because Parm Mann doesn't own one and I hate Man Un
18)Iphones have a lousy reception on C-612 where I live, a block down B-612
19)My Rosie hates apples
20)I hate hype,even Alexander wasn't found in Amphipolis.
Darth Sidious;3430862
utter horse **** virtually all phones use samsung chips which use the same labour, and if you think apple are worse then the petro chemical industry I question your knowledge on corporations
LOL at you
I take it you have never worked in the petrochemical industry, or on a far east electronics assembly line?
Anyway: Poor value for money phones (£150 Moto G does me fine), and I know iTunes isn't the DRM infested nonsense it started out as these days but I would still rather buy on CD so they don't hook me in that way either.
Very poor value for money.
Prefer the technicality, openness and flexibility of Android.
(Have missed the slicker apps of iOS sometimes though I admit).
Now firmly entrenched in the google universe so why move?
Have had bigger screens, NFC, qi charging etc. well before iphones.
Don't want to look like another mindless Apple acolyte anyway…
TBF,the Apple ARM SOCs are pretty awesome,but sadly they are not attached to products I actually want.
why buy an overly priced iphone when you can get a better, more reliable and cheaper phone than a Iphone. a OnePlus One
I used to have iphones. Never again.
Far too restrictive and not worth the premium that Apple believes it warrants (as the do with all their devices).
They're making $195m per day, so I'm sure I'm not being missed.
Don't like the UI of Apple devices and they are overly expensive. They never bring anything new to the market and I prefer the Android OS. ITunes is a pain and never liked having it on my pc for my old ipod.
I think all fruit based devices are behind the times but that's just me.
Too expensive and I really don't need all that things that make that phone (or any other flagship smartphone) expensive. They are almost pure luxury.
I did fine with a second hand galaxy S1 with CM till the last December, when I got a LG D90 405N for 130€, what more can I ask from a smartphone?
It has quick enough 4 core soc paired with 1GB RAM which seem to be enough for minimum lag, gorilla glass, 8MP “good enough” camera and 8GB storage expandeble via microSD. Also the 47" display is not like those fancy OLEDs, but it can give vivid color and good light.
Why yes? Seriously, what a stupid question HEXUS.
ALL answers will be - “because phone X was better for my needs” - like (you will ignore fanboys and haters anyway).
please dont fall that low HEXUS…
Lack of customisation
Boring & poor UI
Expensive
Locked down OS
Lack of widgets
etc,etc, etc
Must admit, when I saw this, I thought the same as DevDrake.
OilSheikh
Perhaps, they have reduced the price now with iPhone 6. But, with iPhone 5, a colleague had to pay £200 to Apple store to get it fixed and I have heard similar experiences from other people at work as well.
You do realise the plural of anecdote isn't data? When I took my phone in to the store, I was told that if it was damaged beyond economical repair - ie if I'd knackered something more fundamental than just the glass, they would provide a replacement phone for ~ £200. As I was told by the Apple employees themselves that screen repairs for all phones are under £100, I suspect that's what happened with your colleague.
shaithis
I refuse to pay more for less!
Hate the lack of a physical back button
Don't like the UI
Price is outrageous.
Hate the restrictions
Pretty much that.
HTC One M8 for half the monthly cost will do me nicely.
Darth Sidious;3430912
latest fashion?
its basic upgrading, the numbers say you are wrong Apple is tapping it
and you're the sort of ‘I want the latest item, ie fashion focused’ target market apple is after - look at the fashion ‘bloggers’ invited to the apple watch for evidence of this focus. You don't NEED to upgrade a phone every time your contract runs out…. you can get better deals WITHOUT upgrading your phone at the end of the contract :crazy:
I'm sure the iPhone you bought 2 years ago can still do the same as the latest one in most cases… oh wait Apple ‘artificially cripples’ them though with the latest iOS updates by making them slower etc…
I have this feeling you own an iPhone, not sure why….
Oh and I forgot one of my reasons for not buying an iPhone… I don't want to fall into the apple fanboy cult :lol:
I don't own an iphone because i really do not like the interface I feel it the UI is very over simplified and the price for the iphone is very expensive is less featured than much cheaper android phones.
I have setup email and other stuff for customers in the past so i have had experience with iphones. We also have an ipad at work and i much prefer my android tablet which is much cheaper. some tasks which are very easy to do on android can be very hard to do on IOS and sometimes require multiple apps and logins which is just stupid imo.
Still loving my S2 !
I'm not overly fond of “locked ecosystem” phones, like the iPhone. I don't have an iTunes account, and I have no desire to get one (both the iTunes account, and the iPhone). I much prefer my Lumia 930. It is much easier to use, and I much prefer the back button. I've even tried using my Dad's Android phone, and I hate that too, so I'm dreading the day that I “might” have to replace Windows Phone with something else (I just wish MS could get their update in order… our telcos have the Denim firmware before the CV variant has been released…)
I had one, liked it, but when I urgently needed to get a new phone, they didn't have it in stock so I ended up with an Samsung S3. The reason I probably won't go back soon is three folds: 1. I have become hooked on high capacity battery that is only with removable batteries. 2. microSD. 3. iPod Touch. What I like most about the iPhone isn't the hardware but the applications. To this date, there are still applications I use on a daily basis that I find better on the iOS than on Android, but I can just use a much cheaper iPod Touch. And to be fair, if I was to go back, I may notice applications that I regularly use on Android that isn't on iOS (or isn't as good). I certainly don't think it is a bad device at all, and the screen size never bothered me (in fact, I do miss a device I can easily operate single handed).
Easy to use, as expensive as other high end contract phones and does what it says on the tin.
Bonus is that core functionality doesn't change too often, unlike android where you play russian roulette everytime you upgrade core apps. I use maps once in a blue moon, I cant remember it ever being the same app each time I've used it. Then don't get me started on hangouts!!
If I wanted to spend 30-50 fixed fee a month on a handset I'd buy an iphone. I don't so I slum it on android.
Why don't I own an iPhone?
'Cos I'm still waiting for Hexus and Tech21 to send me mine. ;)
I agree with the above, way too expensive for the locked ecosystem that they enforce.
The new Iphone 6 is like my old Samsung Ativ S, they simply waited far too long to move to the larger screen. I really dont like the locked down system of apple and I simply love the windows phone.
I know the apple phones are good however they aren't great and I feel are just very over hyped phones.
To be honest when you think about it, iPhones are basically consoles with android/windows being the PC. iPhones have generally out of date hardware and a lack of freedom but what youre ultimately paying for is the reliability. Since the hardware varies very little app developers have much more stable apps generally, you can download something and expect it to work.
Meanwhile on Android/Windows phone we have more freedom but at the price of potentially more issues. While the OSs and the apps on them are generally stable, hardware varies due to the variety of different devices making use of the OS. Ultimately like with consoles and PC its a decision between what is almost guaranteed compatibility or extra freedom over your device.
Why don't I?
Much what others have already said, like price, too locked down, etc.
Also, don't need one. Don't currently need a smartphone, never mind iPhone. Also, privacy concerns.
So, while I've considered it, if I go smartphone at all, a MotoG-type choice is a better bet for me. Good enough hardware for a LOT less money. But privacy issues and lack of actual need have so far stopped even that.
It seems to me a big draw of Apple devices is the icon status and the ‘I want one’ that results. Trouble is, I don't want one. I just don't. If I won one, I'd sell it and buy something I actually did want with the money.
So I guess that the truth of why I don't have one is mainly the economic law of opportunity cost.
“Seems everyone else does” – Is 15-20% market share “everyone” now?
I've been a long time Linux user (not that there's any correlation), and I certainly don't think any company/organization have the right to see what's on my phone. I don't have anything to hide, but if they want it, they can come and ask me for it. I'm starting to become even more mindful of governments getting more rights to intercept communications.
I have exactly the same sentiments towards other software and platforms.
Ability to set your own default application (ie Google Maps? Waze? Something else? Likewise for browsers and many other applications)
Sharing Intents - this is where you are in an app and you want to share this, you click on share button and can select *any* application that can take it (iOS is limited to just Twitter/Facebook/email and even this sharing function is limited)
Tasker. This isn't a simple app to use, nor is it user-friendly at all, but it's such a powerful tool that really goes above and beyond in making your phone so much more useful (examples: I keep rotate screen off at all times, but with Tasker, it enable rotate screen in selected apps so that I can use in landscape such as photo apps etc. This is one of the simple task. Another task I use is whenever I make a phone call, it automatically prefix it with a number 18001 for Text Relay (I'm deaf) and launch the NGT Lite app so I can use Text Relay to make calls.
Much of the function of Android had existed long before iOS picked them up such as multi-tasking, custom keyboards and so on.
Customisablity - including the ability to control tasks via lock screen (ie using Plex via Chromecast, just doubletab the screen to wake it (got a OnePlus One) and on lock screen, I can play/pause Plex)
Price. Got a OnePlus One 64GB. For the price of an iPhone 6+ I could buy two or three OnePlus One. The build quality of OnePlus is extremely impressive and the packaging is also high quality. It's a premium phone without the excessive cost - the bulk of iPhone's price is purely for profit - around 35-40%!
Apple's old motto used to be “Think Different”. I quite agree. Everyone have a iPhone which all looks exactly the same from the lock screen, to the home screen. It's screaming “sheep” to me (ironic given that I use a platform used by more people though) - but I need just point to
http://mycolorscreen.com/ - your phone is yours uniquely or you can grab various themes to change the look of your phone (I use the Themer app for that).
The iPhone is a fashion item, but for me it's not because it's very generic and bland due to being so common despite that it is a very high quality product but it's so common and so lookalike. It's not unique.
Media playing - I actually find I can easily play a wider range of media on my Android due to being able to install codecs.
Widgets, need I say more.
I could add quite a few more to the list here really, but really they all mean one thing - iOS is far too limited for me. It doesn't work for me and just me. It works for others, more power to them. There are a few things that the iPhone does brilliantly and that is its camera - it's always among the best smartphone cameras - my wife's iPhone 6+ take better photos than my OnePlus One can do especially in low light (daylight, about the same, although I do have RAW support advantage)
sounds like most of these chaps want their phones unlocked so they can do naughty things and not pay for stuff
dirty filthy beggars
all hail apple:juggle:
In the first instance, for me, it's always been price. They are unbelievably expensive for what you get. It'd be hard to get me to willingly part with that much cash for a phone. Likewise I'd never get a new HTC, Samsung, Sony etc for the same reason.
I've actually owned an iPhone(work phone) and I don't really like the interface. The hardware is very nice (in a look and feel kind of way, the internals aren't worth shouting about), but I find iOS to be rather limited and not particularly customiseable. I like the fact I can do a lot more of what I please with Android. I can knock up useful (to me) apps in window or Linux without having to buy a Mac (or at least MacOS) to run the development tools.
I do think the iPhone is more of a fashion/status advert than anything else (- particularly these days when all the new revisions seem to do is change the design and charge more). I've noticed a lot of people owning iPhones to refer to them as iPhones. “I'll just look that up on my iPhone”, “Pass me my iPhone”. Never heard anyone saying “I'll just take a picture of myself in the mirror with my Galaxy S5”. “Where did I put my Nexus 6?”
And a lot of iPhone cases/covers do seem to go to great lengths to not hide the massive fruit shape on the back?
I've got a phone with a nice big screen, thumping performance, great battery life and more flexibility. I paid half what I would for an iPhone. And I'm glad.
Having said all that, I do feel sad sometimes when I see how buttery smooth the interface always seem to be, Android still isn't quite there.
Bane2087
1) I have a brain.
This ^^
Its crapple what more is to say ???
Cost and size. But size is a problem with all smartphones. If the iPhone kept to the 3.5“ screen size and just got lighter and cheaper, I would have seriously considered it. To me a phone is mainly a means to be accessible via calls and messaging. It's not a device I use that much.
If you asked about an iPad, that would be a harder question, but the answer is mainly that I'm already in the Android ecosystem, coupled with being an ”enthusiast" who enjoys flexibility and difficulty. Not all that logical, especially considering that Apple devices tend to get more games and get them first, and I mainly game on my tablet.
I despise the company Apple with a passion. Frankly since the 80s' and my first interaction with the ‘Cult of Apple’. My dislike for them has gone up with the prosperity of the company. Oh, and iTunes. That pile of DRM-ridden and Apple lock-in poop software.
I've got to love the apple hate.
Google makes apple look like the baby jesus.
My current phone pre-dates the iPhone and I don't need mobile computing often enough to justify dumping perfectly good technology.
Darth Sidious;3431084
sounds like most of these chaps want their phones unlocked so they can do naughty things and not pay for stuff
dirty filthy beggars
all hail apple:juggle:
I don't think that's what people are saying at all
In our office we use a combination of iPhones and Android phones. Iphones are much worse as phones, more prone to dropping calls. If they cannot get the basis use right why bother with the “smart” bit of a smart phone.
Then there is the mess that is the Apple store. If all I have ever want to download is free stuff why should I have to find some kludge to avoid putting in my credit card details?
abaxas
I've got to love the apple hate.
Google makes apple look like the baby jesus.
And the number of people that have signed up just to post here - talk about a bandwagon! :)
Far too expensive for what you get but then that's only my opinion (I also just don't like Apple gear, can't get on with them).
It's worth what people will pay so, by that measure, they seemed to be priced about right lol. They are lovely bits of kit in terms of design, there is no denying that though.
What I find worrying though is the complete lack of respect a lot of consumers have for their shiny new mobiles. I work for a network and it really is shocking the amount of people that don't take care of them - losing or breaking them within weeks. Because they get them with little or no upfront cost they seem to completely lose sight of the fact that they are walking around with a £600 gadget in their pockets. Even worse is when they expect us to replace it because of their negligence :rolleyes:
I'm ‘thinking different’, by getting a windows phone…that's irony.
smilertoo
I'm ‘thinking different’, by getting a windows phone…that's irony.
+ 1
Waiting for the replacement for the Nokia 1520 , not 100% sure the 1520 will get the Windows 10 update when pushed out.
Biscuit
I don't think that's what people are saying at all
sure:naughty:
Darth Sidious;3431205
sure:naughty:
No seriously, having the freedom to root and put custom ROMS doesn't necessarily mean you will pirate apps. Custom ROMs can have a different feel and better optimisation which is the more common goal, I would say.
Biscuit
No seriously, having the freedom to root and put custom ROMS doesn't necessarily mean you will pirate apps. Custom ROMs can have a different feel and better optimisation which is the more common goal, I would say.
Which is a valid point, but then raises the question of why is the phone sold with an operating system that has to be rooted to get the best from it, and bearing in mind that rooting it compromises its security.
99% of uses don't need/want to modify their phone to that extent. This thread is self selecting really and will attract a disproportionate number of the ‘hate Apple’ bandwagon.
That said, a thread with Microsoft or Android in the title would attract the same sort of response!
peterb
Which is a valid point, but then raises the question of why is the phone sold with an operating system that has to be rooted to get the best from it, and bearing in mind that rooting it compromises its security.
99% of uses don't need/want to modify their phone to that extent. This thread is self selecting really and will attract a disproportionate number of the ‘hate Apple’ bandwagon.
That said, a thread with Microsoft or Android in the title would attract the same sort of response!
Lets be fair now, not ALL devices need rooting to get the best from them. Motorola phones, for example, are pretty solid out of the box. In fact I would say most devices work pretty well out of the box (especially those around the same market point as Apple devices), but there is always someone who will put the work in to get more. You can't honestly tell me that if Apple devices had the same open approach, there wouldn't be armies of people trying to squeeze better performance out of them?
Most QOTW threads have a tendency to bring in new members so I don't really understand the flippant disrespect towards their opinions…. Which is actually exactly what this is all about. I don't see how its even possible to have a respected opinion on the matter if you are just going to be lumped into a ‘hate-bandwagon’.
The reality is many people don't like iPhones and whether any of the iFans like it or not there are valid reasons for it. If you don't want to hear those opinions…. Don't read the thread that asks people to give them.
iPhones are really nice pieces of technology, but I'm a PAUG network customer. I need to own my own hardware, and the iPhone was never intended for someone like me.
I choose WP8. I know there are better phones out there, but they seem to lose their shine very quickly. What WP8 phones lack in dazzle, they gain through a feeling of solidity. My Lumia 920 came out in 2012, but it still feels good to use today. It doesn't feel like any of the improvements to the OS have impacted it negatively in any way, and indeed it's improved in many ways over time, which is important to me. I hate having invested in technology only to see the providers treat me poorly as soon as their focus is on a new model, and I never get that sense from WP. As a Win8.1 PC user, I like the integration between my computer and my phone, and it looks like Win10 is going to make that connection stronger.
I'm sure if I'd flipped a coin over going for Android or Windows Phone, I'd be listing the virtues of a good Android too. Any decent phone today is a pretty amazing piece of technology, so I can understand anybody championing their device, whatever it may be.
Biscuit
Lets be fair now, not ALL devices need rooting to get the best from them. Motorola phones, for example, are pretty solid out of the box. In fact I would say most devices work pretty well out of the box (especially those around the same market point as Apple devices), but there is always someone who will put the work in to get more. You can't honestly tell me that if Apple devices had the same open approach, there wouldn't be armies of people trying to squeeze better performance out of them?
Most QOTW threads have a tendency to bring in new members so I don't really understand the flippant disrespect towards their opinions…. Which is actually exactly what this is all about. I don't see how its even possible to have a respected opinion on the matter if you are just going to be lumped into a ‘hate-bandwagon’.
The reality is many people don't like iPhones and whether any of the iFans like it or not there are valid reasons for it. If you don't want to hear those opinions…. Don't read the thread that asks people to give them.
Of course people can voice their opinions, just as I can voice mine :)
But some opinions are reasonably well reasoned, while others are based on hearsay or fud.
No operating system is perfect, but for most users, the phone out of the box is fine. At the end of the day, it is just a communications tool.
Bit comments like sheep, and cripple don't (imho) really reflect a particularly well thought out opinion, any more than comments referring to Windoze or Micro$oft.
But you are right, threads like QOTW don't really lend themselves to discussion! :)
Oh I forgot something - my current phone is a Galaxy Note 3, and whilst it's huge I do love the s-pen and associated uses…
Touchwiz I don't mind so much (got used to it) and love the fact I can customise pretty much everything
the price!!
Q: How can you tell which one of your friends has the new iPhone 6?
A: Don't worry, they'll let you know.
b0redom
OilSheikh
My biggest gripe is that when you drop it, the screen cracks and you have to fork out £200 for a new screen!
Except that you don't. I smashed the screen on my 1 month old iPhone 6. I called around and then took it to the local Apple store who replaced it the same day for £79. Keep on spreading the FUD though.
why would you spend so much on a phone that breaks so easily??? and it needs iTunes to funcion!
nice little bear baiting exercise here lol
I refuse to pay the ridiculous cost for what is essentially only ever on par or inferior to other products
Like everyone else they always deliver a lower featured phone at these cost before releasing the real deal a few months later but seem particular bad for this
Itunes is the devil, and is a contractual money making prison that i want no part in
Foxconn……. *see also lack of social responsibility / corporate slavery
Taxes……. *see also being above the law / profit margins via theft / tax evasion
Heavily restricted in terms of its formats and compatibility….. *see also doesn't play nice with others
I buy a phone that serves a purpose, not as a ‘lifestyle’ choice / handbag accessory
No doubt we wouldn't be where we are without apple buying up every viable technology and bringing it to the big time, but that is as far as it goes for plus points for apple lol.
in short…. thats why i dont have an iphone
It's not easy to stream stuff natively off my NAS with an iPhone. Or at least it wasn't when I had a 3GS and I've never been back.
I am getting frustrated with Android though, so who knows?
Excedingly overpriced for what it does.
Have to use Itunes and thats a horrible piece of bloatware on a pc.
Doesnt do half the stuff I want my phone to be able to do.
Im not a fashion victim that has to have the latest apple product.
I dont like their business practices (others are bad but apple seem to be the worst!)
Looking at their latest profits they dont need my hard earned anyway!
Too expensive, too heavily marketed, exploitive manufacturing, sold out to the NSA, no control over the software….
jnutt
why would you spend so much on a phone that breaks so easily??? and it needs iTunes to funcion!
To be fair, it survived a few drops before falling out of my locker in the gym onto a tile floor (including falling out of my pocket whilst out running). To be honest, I'm not sure it is significantly more or less fragile than the 3 year old iPhone 4S it replaced, or the android whatever it was that my wife had.
Price, for what is is - its just not worth it. Looks pretty from the outside that's about it.
The Rooting/Jailbreak thing is a good point, aside from the assumption that everyone who does so is pirating. Before I got my Moto G I used an iPod Touch, in the end I got so fed up with it I jailbreaked it but theres a whole bunch of useful apps on it.
While none of it improved my performance as such, stuff like RAM counter was useful in understanding quite how much room I have on my device, not to mention the iTouch unlike the iPhone doesnt give a power % next to the battery icon, a tweak enabled that too. I also installed some tweaks to allow my quickbar to be 5 icons not 4 and just generally increased the available room I had. There was also a few useful tweaks like landscape lock since by default only portrait lock is in iOS, landscape lock was useful for watching videos if I moved around at all.
On my Moto G so far I havent had need to, android has everything I need there without rooting, indeed rooting appears to be a much lower level than jailbreaking. Jailbreaking on iOS seems to equate to normal android OS. The only thing similar things I have installed on android are widget apps that let me toggle things more easily rather than going into settings. I had a similar thing on iOS that was a jailbreak tweak where if i swiped the topbar left to right a window popped down with quick access to wifi, portrait lock, respring etc.
On an unrelated to rooting/jailbreak note though there are still some apps I feel are inferior on Android compared to iOS. The stock music/pictures/video apps are far better on iOS (though I always found it awkward how you always had the Camera Roll filled with every image) compared to the stock google play music etc. The Motorola gallery app was an improvement on the stock images app but I still replaced it in the end. I currently use QuickPic, VLC (for music) and MX Player for videos. I did use VLC for videos originally but watching anime I discovered it has very crap MKV support so replaced it. I still have yet to find a solid video downloader app on Android, I've found a decent enough one for now though after some searching.
Keep in mind I was hardware locked to iOS 6 on the iTouch 4G though, it sounds like theres been a few improvements since but not too much to be fair.
Detest bloatware, which you can't remove.
Off contract is too expensive (£550+ where I live).
Can't run a webserver on it.
Simply don't use my phone for anything more than calling, messaging, rare internet browsing and as I said above, I run a webserver on my phone.
I own a Nexus 5 for a reason. Much cheaper, well built, fast, does everything I need. I think the question is why buy an iPhone? Its basically the popular computer for people who don't really use computers.
However, there are still millions of consumers left for Apple to conquer, so for those of you who haven't yet bought into the craze, we want to know: why don't you own an iPhone?
Initially it was because they were too expensive, and the attitude of the fan boys (“oh god, you've still got THAT old brick, when are you going to get something decent”). Plus did you see the price premium charged for an iPhone on contract? Three words: oh … my … god! That said, the 2 and 3's were pretty attractive looking devices - still quite pretty to my eyes.
When I got my first Android phone (Sony Xperia X10) the iPhone4 was out and to be honest I was really unconvinced by the styling. And then again, there was the price charged. Although, undoubtedly using the iPhone was a nicer experience than Android/Donut.
When time came to replace the X10, again I looked at iPhones, but by then I'd got a few Android apps I liked (granted a lot of those were also available on iOS) but the idea of being able to replace batteries and - more importantly - being able to slap in a microSD card to put music on, plus not having to rely on iTunes were major pluses. I use Linux a lot, so anything that requires iTunes is a non-starter.
These days, I'm very unimpressed by the lack of choice in the (still very expensive) iPhone range (both of them!) and know that I can get better value for my money in Android or Windows Phone. There's also some pretty attractive Android and Windows Phones, whereas the iPhone6's are bit “meh” in my book. I'd also suggest that these days, WP8 and Android-ICS> are just as easy to use as iOS, so the touted iPhone ease of use just isn't a factor. Android's catching up fast on the number of apps too.
So no sale Apple.
I don't want one is the simple answer.
In detail: I've never found them to be an attractive phone, the screens smash too easily, I don't like Apple's infrastructure, I don't like iTunes. I don't like the fact that even though you've paid a high price for the phone, Apple want to dictate what you do with it. The whole patent wars with Samsung (ironic that the 6 now looks like a Samsung GSII).
There also seems to be a ‘What do you mean, you don’t have an iPhone?', as if it's the default choice. Not for me, it's not.
Out of interest, why all the hate for iTunes?
Admittedly I use it on OSX rather than Windows, but it seems OK to me.
It displays the albums with art work, does easy play list creation etc, there's no DRM on downloaded/purchased music. I don't like the DRM on bought video, but as far as I'm aware there's no other legal alternative, and that's more of online store than iTunes itself.
Many moons ago (on Windows) I used CDex to rip my CDs, and a basic MP3 playing package. It was a royal PITA renaming, renumbering etc. With iTunes all that stuff is done for you.
b0redom
Out of interest, why all the hate for iTunes?
Admittedly I use it on OSX rather than Windows, but it seems OK to me.
It displays the albums with art work, does easy play list creation etc, there's no DRM on downloaded/purchased music. I don't like the DRM on bought video, but as far as I'm aware there's no other legal alternative, and that's more of online store than iTunes itself.
Many moons ago (on Windows) I used CDex to rip my CDs, and a basic MP3 playing package. It was a royal PITA renaming, renumbering etc. With iTunes all that stuff is done for you.
iTunes is an OS X app running in some sort of disaster of cross platform converter. Remember Quicktime on windows? yeah its that nice.
That said even my 100% Apple loving friend mildly dislikes it.
Oh as for me, I just don't like how Apple does things. Its like everything has been simplified one step to many. So the actions are simple, but I have to do many more to achieve the same results. Combine that with high prices and limited hardware no thanks. The most I ever paid for a phone was my Note 3 for £400.
Darth Sidious;3431084
sounds like most of these chaps want their phones unlocked so they can do naughty things and not pay for stuff
dirty filthy beggars
all hail apple:juggle:
I am sure it could be nothing to do with full system backups, amending DNS per wifi AP, using a 3rd party app store or any other reasonable thing a handset owner may choose to do that a JB or root is required for.
Intrusive/restrictive software.
Price.
Security concerns.
Sealed unit.
Non conformaty.
and finally Reputation.
I have no desire to be that person queuing up outside a shop to pay a fortune for their latest gadget. The key here is the word gadget. My current phone is a phone first & a mobile computer second. I have no use in my life for a gadget, smart watch or similar.
Brewster0101
smilertoo
I'm ‘thinking different’, by getting a windows phone…that's irony.
+ 1
Waiting for the replacement for the Nokia 1520 , not 100% sure the 1520 will get the Windows 10 update when pushed out.
On the Win 10 event on Jan 21st, they showed it running on a 1520, so should be good to go :)
My beef with Apple is price.
For me; I hate iTunes because of all the gash it installed with it. Updaters, startup, services for something at the end of the day wasn't that great. I needed to use it to load stiff onto an iPod shuffle; rediculus you can't drag and drop. As soon as I found a 3rd party app it was gone.
I don't buy Apple stuff; expensive and not as compatible with games mostly. That and the memory of iTunes.
They make some pretty stuff but to me it is not worth the premium.
Hexus threads like this really bring a smile to my face. Such link-bait for the typical Hexus haters that frequent the boards.
How about some more?
“Why is it that only complete muppets buy Apple gear?”
“When will happy Apple owners realise they are wrong about everything?”
“Why is price the only important factor when buying mobile gear?”
Or maybe just.
“Apple haters rejoice: Post your Apple hating rants here:”
Apple make computers and mobile devices. There's no magic sauce, unicorn tears or underhand trickery. If you like them, fine. If you don't, fine.
Hexus is populated by people filled with such hatred. It's rotten from top to tail and link bait articles like this only perpetuate the ethos.
Dooms
Here were my major complaints when I was using a 4S couple years ago:
Overly Expensive (but can get over that)
Unable to remove unwanted apps - Every iPhone owner I know has a “CRAP” or “DO NO WANT” folder on their homescreen
Forced to open links in Safari / Apple Maps even with other applications installed (I like chrome / gapps thank you very much!)
Having to use iTunes to put stuff on the device
Limited formats supported for said media
NO WIDGETS! I love widgets!
Thats what comes to mind at the moment but its enough. Why would I pay OVER what I would for another device AND have to live with things that piss me off.
Yup all very good points but you forgot the biggest one of them
No Expandable Memory storage support
While I agree with most of the posts here about the bad points of iPhones I have moved back and will probably stay here for the foreseeable future.
You see I want my device to just work and work with other things without any issues.. right now that is still Apple. Droid I just end up messing around with ROM's etc and Win 8 does not have the app support.
My Smartphone is a tool, a pencil or hammer.. I just want to pick it up use it for the job it was intended and put it down.. again that's Apple right now.
P.S. - Whoever it was that made the ‘house Wife’ comment.. Can you be any more condescending?! Personally I think that Droid is just for the nerds that want a command line on their phone because it swells their e-peen :-)
It is too expensive for what it is. Simple as that really.
because it's an mediocre user experience, in a good quality case, for a huge amount of money I prefer using on food / fun / travel / gifts.
been using one (i5) for 2 months - exchanged my 2 years old windows phone 8x by htc with a friend to see if we can be happy with the other's phone. guess what, I'm back to my wp phone, my friend is back to his iphone. I didn't like the iphone so much as to find a reason to pay that extra cash, my friend bought a second phone, a lumia 730 …
b0redom
Out of interest, why all the hate for iTunes? Admittedly I use it on OSX rather than Windows, but it seems OK to me. It displays the albums with art work, does easy play list creation etc, there's no DRM on downloaded/purchased music. I don't like the DRM on bought video, but as far as I'm aware there's no other legal alternative, and that's more of online store than iTunes itself.
It's slow, large and invariably tries to take control of your content - e.g. I don't agree with your tags so I'll overwrite them with what I think it should be. Personally though, it's actually passable to use, but I vehemently don't want to be
forced to use it to transfer content to my phone.
b0redom
Many moons ago (on Windows) I used CDex to rip my CDs, and a basic MP3 playing package. It was a royal PITA renaming, renumbering etc. With iTunes all that stuff is done for you.
Hmm, I seem to remember that CDex wasn't actually that bad if you took the time out to configure it correctly, then again you had to do album art etc manually (at least in the version I used last). I switched to dbPoweramp and that does all that for you (again if you take 30 minutes out to configure it the first time you use it). I just slap in a disk (that I've bought!) and it produces a nice directory structure, adds album art, and saves the files with the naming convention that I wanted. It's actually very flexible!
1. iPhone 3GS = tortoise <2 years. Nexus 4 = Fine > 2 years.
2. Value for Money is somewhat wanting.
3. Apple's forced ecosystem.
4. Apple's portrayal in the media vs my opinion.
There Phones are full of spyware and I won't buy anything Apple,
Its time they paid a fair share of TAXES instead they dodge tax 18b they maid profit
how much will they pay on tax answer NOTHING
This is the seventh in a series on corporate tax dodgers. This summary is taken directly from the report on Apple Tax Dodging by Americans for Tax Fairness and the Institute for Policy Studies
Purchase the legislators and legislation which allow you to “legally” pay few, if any taxes:
“Apple could spend $4 million lobbying politicians on the Hill, twice what the company spent last year and more than 20 times the $180,000 it spent in 1999, according to Reuters. The bump in lobbying spending comes with the iPhone maker under fire for allegedly being one of the largest tax avoiders in the nation.
Multinational U.S. corporations are currently holding about $1.5 trillion in profits offshore, hoping to somehow avoid the 35 percent corporate income tax that would accompany repatriation of the funds. About 6.7 percent of that total is held by Apple, which issued bonds to finance a stock buyback instead of paying $9.2 billion in taxes to bring the money back to America.”
Once you have the tax laws written in a way that “legally” allows you to pay almost no taxes, have your CEO address the U.S. Senate:
jigger
I just upgraded and went with an iphone 5c. Why? because I got the phone for £27 on a 1000 min, unlimited texts and 2gb of data for £27 a month contract.
Nice…
I'm paying £15 a month for a Galaxy Note 3 with unlimited 4G data, 4GB of tethering data, unlimited texts and 250 mins (which is about 240 mins more than I use in a month).
I will never spend any of my own money on any Apple product. I never have, and I never will. I have had to use Mac pros & macbook pros at work over the last 7 years. They are shoddily built, expensive, slow and unreliable pieces of garbage. They do look pretty though, I wonder why they sell so well? Hmm. Thankfully, I managed to persuade my boss to let me put together some custom built linux boxes, which are absolutely superb.
My wife and kids all bought iphones a few years ago. They were a nightmare. Constantly asking me to help them, quite simply because the software is unfriendly and doesn't behave in a logical manner.
I switched them all onto windows phones and not one problem since.
iphones are just a status symbol.
Smells like another apple Victory
b0redom
Out of interest, why all the hate for iTunes?
Admittedly I use it on OSX rather than Windows, but it seems OK to me.
It displays the albums with art work, does easy play list creation etc, there's no DRM on downloaded/purchased music. I don't like the DRM on bought video, but as far as I'm aware there's no other legal alternative, and that's more of online store than iTunes itself.
Many moons ago (on Windows) I used CDex to rip my CDs, and a basic MP3 playing package. It was a royal PITA renaming, renumbering etc. With iTunes all that stuff is done for you.
iTunes on OSX is a lot less offensive
TL;DR version - I have more options and get better VFM with Android/Windows.
Too much of a closed platform.
Very expensive if you crack the screen. Though I have never had this happen to me but their asking prices are ridiculous.
Overly expensive products with tech that has been out for ages with fewer and fewer innovation every 18 months on the release cycle.
The fanbase behind it with all the fake happy smiles saying yay I have this product and saying why the hell don't you have it. It's Apple.
Culturally seen as a the bed product by the sheep.
Overly propriety. I like open source. Buy our product with our very own propriety headphone jack.
Oh yes their PC line is literally form over function incarnate. Let's make an ultra thin laptop and have a odd glass looking mouse with no visible buttons. Plus the annoying notion people have in their heads from all the marketing. If you want to be taken serious and want to create music then you need all Apple products to create good music.
Because I could buy almost 3 Oneplus Ones(A far superior device in almost every way) for the cost of an iPhone6+ 64GB(the only one with a spec to match)
Darth Sidious;3431438
Smells like another apple Victory
Every apple victory is a loss for paying customers.
The_Brown_Light
Too much of a closed platform.
Very expensive if you crack the screen. Though I have never had this happen to me but their asking prices are ridiculous.
How much is it to replace the screen on a high end Samsung? Is it much cheaper?
Overly propriety. I like open source. Buy our product with our very own propriety headphone jack.
Eh?
I do like iPhones, but I like Windows Phones more. Windows 10 is coming too for my Lumia 620 so that'll extend it's life.
Of course, a lot of the comments here could just as easily apply to (for example) buying a BMW series 7 as opposed to a Toyota Yaris. Both will get you from A to B at the legal speed limit. :) One will cost you a lot more than the other.
Overpriced, lack of customisation, itunes
Quite a lot of reasons really:
If you buy Apple you've locked yourself to the hardware design from one manufacturer. Want something different to the current main design? - Not an option with Apple
I want user replaceable/expandable batteries* - Not an option with Apple
I want expandable storage options (micro-sd or similar) - Not an option with Apple
I want standard USB charging cables - Not an option with Apple
Apple phones cost a great deal more than equivalent alternatives.
You have to deal with itunes on your PC.
Also, i like to tinker with the phone and maybe try different custom firmwares. This is orders of magnitude easier and with far more options on android.
IOS itself is okay, and definitely has a considerable edge over android with the UI animation smoothness. But this is such a tiny positive considering the large list of negatives i've just posted…
*Currently running a Galaxy S3 with a 4600MaH battery replacing the stock 2100MaH one, can't stand the terrible battery life on most modern phones
i dont need a computer to make a phone call.. because thats all i ever use it for.
gimme good old cellphone without all that crap on and in it and im happy , besides my battery lasts 2 -3 weeks.. how long does your battery last?
peterb
Of course, a lot of the comments here could just as easily apply to (for example) buying a BMW series 7 as opposed to a Toyota Yaris. Both will get you from A to B at the legal speed limit. :) One will cost you a lot more than the other.
The difference being the BMW is faster and has more functionality…..which means you get what you pay for.
The complete opposite of an iPhone!
shaithis
The difference being the BMW is faster and has more functionality…..which means you get what you pay for.
The complete opposite of an iPhone!
Both will get you their at the legal speed limit, both do the job.
Some prefer a BMW, just as some prefer an iPhone. My next phone will probably be an iPhone because it will fit in with my infrastructure, and I distrust Apple's infrastructure less than Google's!
But I'm glad I have a choice. :)
However, it does seem that some of those posting in the thread have no direct experience of using an iPhone, and are just repeating fud or hearsay.
peterb
Both will get you their at the legal speed limit, both do the job.
Some prefer a BMW, just as some prefer an iPhone. My next phone will probably be an iPhone because it will fit in with my infrastructure, and I distrust Apple's infrastructure less than Google's!
But I'm glad I have a choice. :)
However, it does seem that some of those posting in the thread have no direct experience of using an iPhone, and are just repeating fud or hearsay.
I would argue that by using the comparison of a BMW (iPhone) with Yaris (Android), you are propogating the concept that iPhones are somehow superior than that of Android devices, which is exactly the same kind of hearsay/FUD you are accusing others off.
I didn't say which one was superior. It could argued that the Toyota is better, more fuel efficient, etc.
The point is that it is an individual's choice, and doesn't attract the level of abuse that the choice of phone attracts.
There have been some perfectly valid reasons voiced here about why someone would prefer one phone over another, but there have been other making basically untrue statements, which detract from the discussion. Some of those came from people who had or have a very low post count.
I like most people choose a phone on the features that are of most use to me. However, the phone is perhaps less important than the infrastructure and infrastructure features that come with it. All the 'Eco-systems have their plus and minus points, but to pour scorn on one group for some reason just seems pointless.
peterb
I like most people choose a phone on the features that are of most use to me. However, the phone is perhaps less important than the infrastructure and infrastructure features that come with it. All the 'Eco-systems have their plus and minus points, but to pour scorn on one group for some reason just seems pointless.
Unless of course 1 of the options tries to force you into an eco-system while the rest are happy to talk to whatever you want them to talk to.
However you look at it, the outcome is the same “With apple you pay more for less”…..that message cannot be repeated enough until the iSheep listen…and I cannot see how that can be argued with…..
….well, there is one scenario where it can be argued but then you would have to be an idiot to pay hundreds more for a phone/tablet/PC with less features just because you like the way it looks.
But that for me is apple in a nutshell…..form over features. The last thing that should matter when buying tech seems to be the first thing Apple have gotten their customers to want…..I guess you do have to commend them for turning so many people into fools.
I have both iOS and android devices. There is nothing on the Android that I can't do on iOS, but there are things I can do on iOS that I can't do on android.
Android is a perfectly good OS if it meets your requirements, if it doesn't use something else
But to refer to Apple users as sheep is just childish, and no more valid applying it to Apple users than it is to Windows users or any other mass market product.
peterb
But to refer to Apple users as sheep is just childish, and no more valid applying it to Apple users than it is to Windows users or any other mass market product.
I think its wrong to generalise all people with iPhones as sheep, however, I dont think that its an entirely innacurate metaphor. There is a huge populus of people who show a kind of loyality towards Apple that goes far beyond a simple preference to a brand. The kind of cult behavior people excersize, such as camping outside the store when there is a new release is not something that many other brands have experienced.
Im willing to bet many of these people do zero research into the product or the competition and if questioned on their behavior, their statement would be something along the lines of, ‘its the best because its Apple’. Calling these utter fanatics iSheep is entirely appropriate in my opinion. This ignorent attitude of bypassing sensible practices like product research and selective purchasing is bad for consumers as a whole and these foolish morons deserve every bit of ridicule they recieve.
peterb
I have both iOS and android devices. There is nothing on the Android that I can't do on iOS, but there are things I can do on iOS that I can't do on android.
I don't use android on my phone (battery life too poor, to sluggish etc) but I find the exact opposite, Android has many, many things, that you just can't do on iOS or WP.
With a BMW you pay more because you get premium materials, keener driving experience, more comfort, more gadgets. Apple you pay more but materials are no more premium, insides are exactly the same. A better analogy would be comparing the Toyota Aygo with the Aston Martin Cygnet. Same car, same function, just a ‘higher-end’ badge spattered all over the place. And £40,000 thank you very much.
Biscuit
The kind of cult behavior people excersize, such as camping outside the store when there is a new release is not something that many other brands have experienced.
I don't understand this either to be honest, but it also happened with the Xbox, PS, Wii and even Win95 (yes really!). So it's not restricted to Apple stuff. It's all about creating hype for the product. I'm pretty sure that's a tiny fraction of the people who buy the product though.
Biscuit
I would argue that by using the comparison of a BMW (iPhone) with Yaris (Android), you are propogating the concept that iPhones are somehow superior than that of Android devices, which is exactly the same kind of hearsay/FUD you are accusing others off.
Really don't like the BMW 7 v's Yaris analogy - apart from being plain wrong (except in the “gets you to 70mph” benchmark) it's also exactly the kind of thing that an iFan would say.
If we're doing “Hexus - Top Gear Edition” then I'd argue Porsche 911 or Morgan on one side (depending on how insulting
I'm being), and Ford RS or Vauxhall VXR on the other.
peterb
My next phone will probably be an iPhone because it will fit in with my infrastructure, and I distrust Apple's infrastructure less than Google's! But I'm glad I have a choice.
That seems like a pretty sensible approach. Conversely you've then got to understand people who say "
I trust Apple's infrastructure less than Google's/Microsoft's“ and then choose Android or Windows Phone.
I've zero problem with the idea of Apple charging more for their pocket liner than HTC, Microsoft, Samsung etc. What I do object to though is those buyers then insisting that because they paid more that everyone else is a halfwit. As I said above, the iOS ”experience“ is a good one - fluid - however there's also areas where it's deficient, so to claim it's ”perfect“ or ”best“ is unsustainable unless you add ”
for me“. And this hubris comes direct from Cupertino … remember all the furore over ”Retina“, and then when LG came out with their high-res screen it was scoffed at for being ”unnecessary".
And now I'm going to commit the ultimate heresy … wouldn't it be good/interesting if someone other than Apple was also doing iOS smartphones and tablets? Then again, this is the same argument as oft-used for OS X.
Yes, I'd love to see another iOS implementation. And when I use my Android tablet (hacked HP touchpad, I'm always pleasantly surprised by it,not here are lots of things to like about it. But then it is stock Cynagen Mod, without any manufacturer specific bloatware. And because it has been rooted (it had to be to load Cynagen mod) some security sensitive applications won't run (which is a good thing, really!)
And the trust thing is a personal perspective. The reason I distrust Google more is because their business model is built around advertising and collecting user data.
You can, with a bit of effort, run OSX on other than Apple hardware. The results are OK, and most things run, one or two don't.
peterb
Yes, I'd love to see another iOS implementation. And when I use my Android tablet (hacked HP touchpad, I'm always pleasantly surprised by it,not here are lots of things to like about it. But then it is stock Cynagen Mod, without any manufacturer specific bloatware. And because it has been rooted (it had to be to load Cynagen mod) some security sensitive applications won't run (which is a good thing, really!)
Good to hear, we've got three TP's here (staff sales) and all are working fine, with two going Cyanogen. Actually saw a much-agreed-with comment elsewhere that the old TP is actually a better device than the current HP ‘droid tablet line. I’ll not necessarily disagree…
Why don't I own an iPhone? Same reason I don't drive a BMW (or Merc or Audi, I'm not discriminating). I could have one if I wanted one and I'm not denying that the product is excellent. It's just that I have to want something because I want it and not because everyone says it's the thing I should have.
Because i don't like iOS.
shaithis
I am sure it could be nothing to do with full system backups, amending DNS per wifi AP, using a 3rd party app store or any other reasonable thing a handset owner may choose to do that a JB or root is required for.
Other reasonable things perhaps including a decent firewall to help stop unauthorised apps talking out, and if course, deGooglifying by removing utterly unwanted bloatware that you can't dump without at least rooting.
Price difference between a 64GB and 16GB iPhone? On a per GB basis, 5.2 times the price of what a Sandisk micro-SD card costs.
My current 32 GB micro-SD had been in use for 3 years in my previous Samsung S2 and is now sitting in my LG G3. That's a 32GB portable bit of mobile storage with lifetime warranty - for free - already fully depreciated!
That sums it all up - iPhones are for housewives and other ignor-anuses (word of the year previously) who do not even know that they have paid 5.2 times for something that is inferior and will die when their phone dies.
Did they even know that all lithium batteries die after 300-400 charge cycles?
Did iPhone users even know that without the Android back button or recents button they have to tap their phone 2-3 times as much just to switch from an app to another?
Also Android rooting is the only way to perform full & comprehensive back up of data on any mobile OS. Hexus members who don't use Android or don't root (even though they use Android) are simply not worthy of being called Hexus members.
preter_s
Hexus members who don't use Android or don't root (even though they use Android) are simply not worthy of being called Hexus members.
:rolleyes:
Wow preter_s, there's nothing wrong with your ego is there?
b0redom
Wow preter_s, there's nothing wrong with your ego is there?
No he just hasn't discovered Windows Phone yet ;)
TheAnimus
No he just hasn't discovered Windows Phone yet ;)
It's certainly the platform that I have been happiest with. Rolling with a Lumia 930 now, had a Lumia 1020 before it.
preter_s
Price difference between a 64GB and 16GB iPhone? On a per GB basis, 5.2 times the price of what a Sandisk micro-SD card costs.
My current 32 GB micro-SD had been in use for 3 years in my previous Samsung S2 and is now sitting in my LG G3. That's a 32GB portable bit of mobile storage with lifetime warranty - for free - already fully depreciated!
Congratulations!
preter_s
That sums it all up - iPhones are for housewives and other ignor-anuses (word of the year previously) who do not even know that they have paid 5.2 times for something that is inferior and will die when their phone dies.
Or maybe they want something that works quite well as it is out of the box and see Android users raving about their rooted phone as a bit nerdy or geeky?
preter_s
Did iPhone users even know that without the Android back button or recents button they have to tap their phone 2-3 times as much just to switch from an app to another? [
Or press the home button twice. Perhaps you might try using an IOS device!
preter_s
Also Android rooting is the only way to perform full & comprehensive back up of data on any mobile OS. Hexus members who don't use Android or don't root (even though they use Android) are simply not worthy of being called Hexus members.
Apart from connecting to cloud storage or another PC/Mac. One thing for sure though is that anyone routinely running any OS with root or administrator priveliges deserves all the trouble that that security hole may bring.
It is also a bit rich signing up and telling HEXUS users what they need to do to be ‘worthy’!
HEXUS users are generally well informed and open minded about technology (although you might be forgiven for not realising that from some posts in this thread :))
That said, welcome to the forums.
preter_s
Hexus members who don't use Android or don't root (even though they use Android) are simply not worthy of being called Hexus members.
I took a little bit of offense to that myself.
I have a phone as a phone, the fact it can play silly games and take photos is a bonus to me. If I didnt take my phone with me I wouldnt be bothered, My life doesnt begin and end with mobile phones, texting, tw*tter and face c**p.
Maybe if you know so much you should put a post or 2 up and inform us
lesser members
preter_s
Price difference between a 64GB and 16GB iPhone? On a per GB basis, 5.2 times the price of what a Sandisk micro-SD card costs. My current 32 GB micro-SD had been in use for 3 years in my previous Samsung S2 and is now sitting in my LG G3. That's a 32GB portable bit of mobile storage with lifetime warranty - for free - already fully depreciated!
Same here, although in my case my uSD was originally in a Galaxy S3. One poster on XDA pointed out that a
removable uSD card makes a pretty convenient place to put your backups - always available on the phone, but if you're doing something “dangerous” then it's simple to remove the card and have an “offline” backup to recover from.
preter_s
Also Android rooting is the only way to perform full & comprehensive back up of data on any mobile OS. Hexus members who don't use Android or don't root (even though they use Android) are simply not worthy of being called Hexus members.
Whoa! Wanna take it down a notch. There's a lot of iOS and Windows Phone users out there, (and there's a Lumia in the house here), and “live and let live” is my motto - to take the “Android is it” attitude is kinda like those iSheep who bleat on that you just
must buy an iPhone because anything else is just a poor copy. Equally wrong and annoying.
The rooting comment also kind of plays to the iSheep (by the way I make a clear distinction between iFan and iSheep ) prejudice - “oh, you've got Android, but that's only for the hackers, not a real OS”. My G3 was rooted, but the Lollipop upgrade broke that and I'm not comfortable with the technical downsides of the current rooting methods. Rooting isn't an end in itself (unless you're tech preening) but a method to achieve something else - my S3 got Chainfire rooted within two days of buying it, but that was because I wanted to use Titanium Backup and Automate Pro.
Smudger
Apple you pay more but materials are no more premium, insides are exactly the same.
I disagree with this. The camera on all the iPhones has constantly outperformed it's then competitor. Even now, the iPhone camera is unparalleled.
Singh400
I disagree with this. The camera on all the iPhones has constantly outperformed it's then competitor. Even now, the iPhone camera is unparalleled.
I disagree with your disagreement. :p
Apple do
not make their own camera modules, they buy in from Sony (I believe that iP4 and iP5S use Exmor R sensors). Where they tend to score (at least according to the comparatives I've read) is that Apple's
software is better suited as a jack-of-all-trades, with some phones being able to do better outdoor shots, others able to do better low-light, others better on indoor. The last review I read said that the iPhone6 didn't lead any of the photography tests, but consistently placed 2nd or 3rd across all test categories.
crossy
Apple do not make their own camera modules, they buy in from Sony
It's not just their camera, the capacitive touch screen that really gave them the edge when they launched their first iPhone was actually developed by HP.
crossy
Where they tend to score is that Apple's software is better suited as a jack-of-all-trades
Apple often talk about their software and how it beats everyone elses and yet all of the major developments in iOS have been driven by developments from the jailbreaking community, some of which were copied from developments in the Android market.
Apple lost me as a customer when I stopped seeing them as a proactive market leader and started seeing them as a reactive face that was following a crowd. iPhone 6 might be a long way away from my last iPhone 4 (that was also my third iPhone) but only my first iPhone really impressed me, my second was technically better with upgraded hardware but by the time I got my third it was simply meh… I don't think I experienced much of a change in the user experience.
iPhones are too big these days. Yes, including the non-Plus.
@directhex: ROFL :clapping:
I skipped posting in this thread for a while as I imagined it would quickly turn into a thread where every other post contained the words isheep or some comment that suggested iPhone users were idiots or didn't know what they were doing like iPhone posts usually do.
Nice to see I wasn't wrong.
I especially enjoyed the new poster saying that iPhone users shouldnt be on HEXUS. (Insert comment on more technology/IT experience than they've had hot dinners here)
HEXUS I am disappoint….
Rob_B
I skipped posting in this thread for a while as I imagined it would quickly turn into a thread where every other post contained the words isheep or some comment that suggested iPhone users were idiots or didn't know what they were doing like iPhone posts usually do.
Nice to see I wasn't wrong.
I especially enjoyed the new poster saying that iPhone users shouldnt be on HEXUS. (Insert comment on more technology/IT experience than they've had hot dinners here)
HEXUS I am disappoint….
I guess the thread title starts as an open invitation for us to spill out all of the reasons we dislike the iPhone, it didn't ask us to talk about what we like about the iPhone or any other phone, it asked us to explain why we don't have it and I don't often see people not getting something they like unless it's down to price.
crossy
Apple do not make their own camera modules, they buy in from Sony (I believe that iP4 and iP5S use Exmor R sensors). Where they tend to score (at least according to the comparatives I've read) is that Apple's software is better suited as a jack-of-all-trades, with some phones being able to do better outdoor shots, others able to do better low-light, others better on indoor. The last review I read said that the iPhone6 didn't lead any of the photography tests, but consistently placed 2nd or 3rd across all test categories.
I didn't say Apple made their own camera hardware, I simply said their implementation version of it was better. While I love Android, I do sometimes get envious of the vertical integration advantages Apple displays in its product line.
Rob_B
I skipped posting in this thread for a while as I imagined it would quickly turn into a thread where every other post contained the words isheep or some comment that suggested iPhone users were idiots or didn't know what they were doing like iPhone posts usually do. I especially enjoyed the new poster saying that iPhone users shouldnt be on HEXUS. (Insert comment on more technology/IT experience than they've had hot dinners here) HEXUS I am disappoint….
As a matter of interest do
you own an iPhone?
BTW, pretty disappointed by
your comment - random, unsubstantiated criticism is <sarcasm>really helpful</sarcasm>. Think I used “iSheep” once or two (for illustrative purposes) but for the most part (excluding the person who said that not rooting excluded you from Hexus) the discussion so far has attempted to answer the question posed.
Singh400
I didn't say Apple made their own camera hardware, I simply said their implementation version of it was better. While I love Android, I do sometimes get envious of the vertical integration advantages Apple displays in its product line.
With respect, you said:
The camera on all the iPhones has constantly outperformed it's then competitor. Even now, the iPhone camera is unparalleled.
The point I was making is that the “iPhone camera”
hardware is actually supplied by a 3rd party to Apple … and to other phone manufacturers. For example, there was an (urban legend?) story that the Galaxy S3 uses exactly the same hardware as the contemporary iPhone. So any perceived quality difference is then down to software
alone.
The vertical integration aspect, yes, can be a big plus - because you pretty much know that if a phone misbehaves then it's Apple's fault. No, “it's Samsung's fault. No, no, it's Google's” pass-the-blame-parcel. Plus there's the small matter of upgrades - anyone who claims other than that Apple gets it right and Google wrong is not someone I'd have much respect for. OTOH the limited choice and price gouging is a big minus - which seems to pretty much be the consensus/summary of this thread to date.
crossy
As a matter of interest do you own an iPhone?
BTW, pretty disappointed by your comment - random, unsubstantiated criticism is <sarcasm>really helpful</sarcasm>. Think I used “iSheep” once or two (for illustrative purposes) but for the most part (excluding the person who said that not rooting excluded you from Hexus) the discussion so far has attempted to answer the question posed.
….
Yes I currently own an iPhone, I've had a mixture of Android/iPhone over the last few years and am well aware of the pros/cons of both.
As for the camera, I've never had an Android phone that beat the quality of an Apple phone, be that my choice of Android phone I don't know…
The question asks, why don't you own an iphone? I sincerely hope that there will be another question shortly asking why you do own an iphone, so as to give both sides of the argument rather than letting this descend into a slanging match in the manner of the age old pc vs mac “debates”.
Here at Hexus I believe that the vast majority of us are tech savvy enough to make our own minds up about exactly what suits our needs in each situation and are not driven by the shiny sales pitch or slick marketing.
I personally don't like Apple much these days. I find them overhyped and overpriced, using tech developed on other devices, sometimes refined and improved, but still less than innovative.
Their last ipad air advert consisted of the machine on a white background while various shades of paint were thrown over it, arty maybe but I couldnt help but think that if thats how the average Apple user treats their tech then they deserve to pay those prices.
I used to really admire Apple, the original Ipod was great, they refused to compromise in the early years and were absolutely committed to providing a quality product, which was proven in several areas of business such as graphic design and the newspaper/magazine quarter.
Sadly though it seems to have deteriorated into mugging the customer for every penny they can. Proprietary connections rather than micro usb, cables that cost the best part of £50, extortionate repair costs when independents do it for a fraction of the cost. The Apple cinema 27" screen that cost over £800 when the same panel from DGM and another couple of companies cost just over £300. Then there's iTunes, which is practically forced on every user.
I find that Apple has gone from being the alternative choice to being the company that gives you no choice, which is as far from my perception of their original vision as its possible to be.
And just as an addendum, i like the level of control I have with my devices, control that Apple devices basically refuse to allow, but thats a personal thing, and some folks just want something that works (even when it doesnt).
Not an Apple hater as such, just really really disappointed in them.
Rob_B
Yes I currently own an iPhone, I've had a mixture of Android/iPhone over the last few years and am well aware of the pros/cons of both.
As for the camera, I've never had an Android phone that beat the quality of an Apple phone, be that my choice of Android phone I don't know…
As I was saying to Singh400 - consensus over the last year (based on engadget, wired, cnet, etc) seems to be that the iPhone camera is very balanced, not being streets-ahead for anything in particular, but also not being useless for anything either. Like I say below, it seems to be capable of producing a “good” image in all circumstances.
There's also been comments that Android phones, especially some of the Xperia's, can produce noticeably better images in particular set of circumstances. E.g. the LG G3's quick fire and macro modes are supposedly better than the 5s's. I'm not enough of a camera buff to be able to tell (or be that bothered if I'm going to be honest!).
Dareos
The question asks, why don't you own an iphone? I sincerely hope that there will be another question shortly asking why you do own an iphone, so as to give both sides of the argument rather than letting this descend into a slanging match in the manner of the age old pc vs mac “debates”.
:thumbsup: I'd second this - actually I'd be
very interested to hear a reasoned argument (i.e. “because it's magical” or “well because it's just the best” are NOT arguments!)
for the iPhone. I've never owned an iPhone - but have come close with the ‘5 on occasions. But I do know a lot of people who are iPhoners and speaking to them is interesting in that the key argument seems to be about the “pick up and go” nature of the device, plus the smoothness of the user interface. I’ve also had some comments that the camera (echoing what Rob_B and Singh400 have been praising it for) invariably seems to “get it right”, or at least produces an image which is pleasing in all circumstances.
Why ? Is it mandatory to own an iPhone ?
Why don't you own a Volvo ?