It's like a rebranded Archos tablet or something?

Would rather pay the 20 notes extra for the hudl, argos specs suck.

raven1001
Would rather pay the 20 notes extra for the hudl, argos specs suck.

Ditto

This sounds more like the spec that people were expecting the Hudl to come out with, at their price point, did Tesco drop this and then the maker go shopping it to other chains?

raven1001
Would rather pay the 20 notes extra for the hudl, argos specs suck.

Personally, I'd rather pay £80 more than the hudl for a Nexus 7, but that doesn't mean there isn't a market, and likely a large one, one the hudl or Argos thingy.

Reuters
Millions of people have bought tablets during the last year but there is still around 75 percent of the UK population without one," said Argos managing director John Walden.

Market research company EMarketer estimates there are 19.7 million tablet users in the UK, up 39 percent year-on-year.

Hmmmph, statistics. If the quoted figures attributed to Reuters are correct, 19.7 million users is 25% of the UK population, putting the population at 80 million. I know there's an alleged “flood” of immigrants, legal. or otherwise, but last time I looked, it was more like 61 million.

But seriously, there is a large market for budget tablets, be it hudl or Argos, or anything else, and the more the merrier. What the spec needs to be very much depends what the user wants to do. I use mine as little more than a lightweight, portable web browser and document viewer, and it doesn't need to be a powerhouse. The screen might not be Retina, for example, but it's perfectly adequate for anything I want it for.

There are lots of people that just might buy in at under £100 but won't at over that, no matter the difference in spec. After all, you can do the “just a bit more” logic right up to the iPad. I've done it more than a few times. :embarrassed: …… (on other product types, certainly not with the iPad)

For people on this website though, who will have more knowledge than your average person in the street, the Hudl is much better. As for the Nexus 7 I currently don't see it being worth the extra £80 especially seeing as the hudl lets you insert a microsd card…

However, each to their own - the Hudl seems the best bang for buck though by a considerable margin

Yeah, the Hudl looks to be worth the extra over this - unless you like pink, I suppose.

There's a Sumvision 7" tab on pre-order at Ebuyer which looks to be near identical specs as the Hudl, minus some screen res, for £20 less. Looks better than this Argos unit for the same money.

Of course under £100 is a magic price point, but you can use your vouchers with Tesco thus bringing it down

3dcandy
For people on this website though, who will have more knowledge than your average person in the street, the Hudl is much better. As for the Nexus 7 I currently don't see it being worth the extra £80 especially seeing as the hudl lets you insert a microsd card…

However, each to their own - the Hudl seems the best bang for buck though by a considerable margin

To be honest, agree entirely on the microsd card. I bought a Samsung (at an extremely good price) and one of the reasons was the card slot. Without that slot, I would not have bought. So yup, you got me there.

The hudl does, from my brief look at it, seem like good value. Personally, I fell out with Tesco years ago, and haven't used them since. I wouldn't accept a hudl as a gift, because it's Tesco. But I'd agree there's a market for that, and bang for buck, it looks good.

However, better bang for buck or not, it's still more bucks. Some will go for more bang with hudl, some for less bucks with Argos. I doubt many prospective serious iPad buyers would look at either.

3dcandy
Of course under £100 is a magic price point, but you can use your vouchers with Tesco thus bringing it down

…. if you have vouchers, or have a Reward card, or whatever it's called.

initial reviews show this is crap. literally crap. at least the hudl can compare to the older nexus models , but this is not very good.

ofc , a review might be hard as a certain admin doesn't like Tesco….

HalloweenJack
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ofc , a review might be hard as a certain admin doesn't like Tesco….

For clarity, that certain admin is a FORUM admin. I have nothing whatever to do with what gets reviewed, or what reviews say, on HEXUS, as a website.

Also, I'm a professional, and I review what I get paid to review, and do it impartially, or I simply wouldn't agree to do the review …. and someone else would do it.

I've written thousands of articles, for publishers in this country and outside, for everything from national newspapers, like the Telegraph, to PC press like PC Pro, but not once, ever, written, contributed to or even affected, any HEXUS review.

My involvement with HEXUS is and only ever has been on the forum side, never the review side.

But say, for argument's sake, PC Pro or the Telegraph wanted a hudl review? I'd do it, and do it utterly fairly and impartially, on the merits. I just wouldn't buy one, but my disagreement with Tesco has no bearing on the merits, or otherwise, of the device.

So an admin dislikes tesco, doesn't mean that everyone at hexus does……

However with hudl, as I've written before you need to look at it in the concept of this hybrid digital / physical eco system. This is why their TV On Demand service is so interesting…

However, not to defend Saracen, he doesn't like the Surface RT so obviously is wrong on anything non-chalk tablet related.

A quick browse around second hand shops shows up a lot of original Nexus 7 in 16GB for around £105. Why the heck would anyone buy this? Hudl I can see - the Clubcard voucher scheme really is a huge bonus - but this is far too watered down.

How long till Microsoft starts asking Argos and Tesco for the “contribution” for their patents as they are using Android, in the way that other OEMs have paid up the “do-not-sue-us” vig.

Of course, Tesco/Argos are likely using an OEM to build it for them, who may have already paid the vig anyhow.

You'd have to put a gun to my head to make me buy anything from Tesco (Yep, they upset me too) Besides, I wouldn't buy the argos one either. I bought the Nexus 7 Mk1 last year & havent looked back, Even if I hadnt bought that then the MkII would be considered.

This kind of low spec for a saving of £20 over the Tesco Hudl is just going to pour more and more people into Tesco for the Hudl.

Literally no one on this forum is the target for this. Your guy in the street doesn't look at specs, certainly not for tablets, its bought on price, and for 99 Quid's I suspect this will sell well. They also do a pink one, which means they'll shift a buttload based on that alone.

Looks like a giant iPhone.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/argos-launching-tablet-computer-132300606.html?vp=1


watch the video - its rather `thick` tbh

Don't think that's the tablet for me, gonna wait another week until the new Ipad mini is unveiled :clapping:

TheAnimus
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However, not to defend Saracen, he doesn't like the Surface RT so obviously is wrong on anything non-chalk tablet related.

Again, though, there's a difference between my view of whether a device is technically good, and/or good value, and whether I personally would buy one.


There may be reasons why I wouldn't buy a device even if it was superb. For a start, there are some companies with whom, for various reasons, I will personally simply not countenance doing business with.

But, with a journalistic hat on, I have to ask who the reader of the publication I'm writing for is, and consider the strengths and weaknesses, merits and problems, with that reader demographic in mind, not my personal preferences.

A classic example might be a laptop review. If a specific machine a good buy? Depends what you want it for. I reviewed many powerhouse laptops that were leaders in their field, byt that I wouldn't buy, because “powerhouse” wasn't what I needed. What I wanted was to run basic office apps, mainly WP, plus Accounts, a few odd items BUT have a machine as light as I could get, with as good a battery life as I could get, because my personal primary use was on trains, or more often, planes. So I wanted it light ‘cos I was lugging it round the planet, and with good battery life because there were no power points on planes in those days.

That has to be the thought process …. not jyst is product goid or bad, but in what context.

It’s not so much that I don't consider Surface RT to be good machines. More it's that, first, it's not what I wanted from a tablet, and second, I still haven't forgiven MS for Windows 8 on which, as far as I'm concerned, MUI was all about leveraging tablet market share by using Windows installed userbase and foisting a UI patently oriented towards touch onto vast numbers of machines that, first, don't have touch, and second, for which it is unsuitable.

It's not that I don't like Surface RT. It's that I will not buy one because of the way MS went about things, even if they were suitable for me, which they really aren't. All I need a tablet for, really, as I said earlier, is a portable web browsing terminal. About all I use mine for is Firefox, a BBC News app, a portable cookbook app, and a Sudoku game. Surface RT might be a tad overkillish??

I can see where Saracen is coming from, but I'm personally not able to plop down cash like I used to be able, so I'd consider a hudl just because of it's value for money if I was in the market for a tablet. Or perhaps even the Argos MyTablet or whatever it's called today for £99.
However it does appear that others DO have the disposable income to choose where they shop, so I reckon you've got a simple choice in that particular market this Christmas, Argos or Tescos. I imagine in the next couple of weeks that will change though…

3dcandy
I can see where Saracen is coming from, but I'm personally not able to plop down cash like I used to be able, so I'd consider a hudl just because of it's value for money if I was in the market for a tablet. Or perhaps even the Argos MyTablet or whatever it's called today for £99.
However it does appear that others DO have the disposable income to choose where they shop, so I reckon you've got a simple choice in that particular market this Christmas, Argos or Tescos. I imagine in the next couple of weeks that will change though…

There are a lot of people with cash restraints, and for most people, a tablet of any sort is a discretionary purchase, not an essential. And plonking down iPad cash levels probably implies having to forego, or at least delay, doing or buying something else. I entirely agree with you, and that's precisely why (IMHO, of course) the hudl, and even Argos thing, will open up a new segment of the market.

I wanted a tablet for quite a while, but would not pay over £200 for it, let alone £400 or more for an iPad. It's not that I couldn't, so much as wouldn't. Same with an ereader. I wanted one when they were £300-ish, but told myself “not until they're £100”. I gave in at £115, IIRC.

Target market is apparently 8-13 year olds.