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Posted by aeonf242 - Wed 17 Mar 2004 15:10
Budget Taxes High end PC'S and case mods! :-s
Chancellor Gordon Brown has claimed the new breed of computer modder and high end system buff should contribute more to tax revenues above the 17.5% VAT already collected on such items.

In todays budget he announced a 5% ‘mod’ tax on all case modifications, a 15% ‘green’ tax on all PSU's over 300W and a 10% surcharge on all new PC's rated over four thousand in 3DMarkSE.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3519852.stm
Posted by nichomach - Wed 17 Mar 2004 15:43
LOL

In addition, he's planning extensions to TCPA/Palladium to catch so-called “soft-modders” who would otherwise escape performance-related taxation… :D

Class, Aeon
Posted by grand_witch - Wed 17 Mar 2004 15:47
Surley judging by the age and performance of my 1.4 Athlon system I should should get Tax relief (Like they do with older cars).
Posted by Steve - Wed 17 Mar 2004 15:50
grand_witch
Surley judging by the age and performance of my 1.4 Athlon system I should should get Tax relief (Like they do with older cars).
Never mind a break - they'll give you clock-speed support! ;)
Posted by grand_witch - Wed 17 Mar 2004 16:01
Maybe I could even get an EU grant!!!!!
Posted by Swafe - Wed 17 Mar 2004 16:16
1p more a pint :'(
Posted by aeonf242 - Wed 17 Mar 2004 16:24
1p more a pint :'(

Not if you're a girl or live in Cornwall!
Cider duty remains the same, I bet the tramps are pleased.
Posted by MD - Wed 17 Mar 2004 16:51
aye the cider drinkin fokes be a smilen

personallyI think this budget was powered by a party worried about the election. Politicians, bunch of muppets I tell ya.

m@
Posted by Punky - Wed 17 Mar 2004 17:05
i nearly cried - beer and fags price gone up! my daily sustenance is gettin more and more pricey! dammit!
Posted by Theo - Wed 17 Mar 2004 17:34
I was also slightly disappointed with the 8p rise in cigarettes.

I'd guess that the only reason that beer duty raised by a measley 1p is most likely due to John Prescott threatening the Chancellor with fisticuffs :(
Posted by Knoxville - Wed 17 Mar 2004 18:44
so the average night out is gonna cost me 28p more, 28p * 5 nights a week = £1.40

52 weeks a year * £1.40 = £72.80 :eek:
Posted by aeonf242 - Wed 17 Mar 2004 18:53
so the average night out is gonna cost me 28p more, 28p * 5 nights a week = £1.40
your average night sounds quite good
Monday=28 pints of lager
Tuesday= 4 bottles of wine, 10 pints of cidar, 1 pack of fags and 2 litres of diesel
Wednesday=3 packs of fags, 2 litres of diesel and 2 bottles of fizzy wine
Thursday=Rest
Friday=10 Litres of LPG and 4 pints of lager
Saturday=6 bottles of wine and 2 pints of lager
Sunday = Rest

Sound right?
Posted by Russ - Wed 17 Mar 2004 19:22
i heard yesteday that 1 in 4 ciggies smoked in the UK were illegaly imported.
Posted by Knoxville - Thu 18 Mar 2004 00:51
aeonf242
your average night sounds quite good
Monday=28 pints of lager
Tuesday= 4 bottles of wine, 10 pints of cidar, 1 pack of fags and 2 litres of diesel
Wednesday=3 packs of fags, 2 litres of diesel and 2 bottles of fizzy wine
Thursday=Rest
Friday=10 Litres of LPG and 4 pints of lager
Saturday=6 bottles of wine and 2 pints of lager
Sunday = Rest

Sound right?

close ;)

i was thinkin more of 8/9 packs of fags a week n 50ish pints dependin wich pubs i go in
Posted by afraser2k - Thu 18 Mar 2004 09:02
I used the BBC link to calculate if it made any difference to me, it didn't, so I'm happy at the moment with it (since I don't drink, smoke or have a car).
Posted by Skii - Thu 18 Mar 2004 09:41
Well, I'm still waiting for some kind of help to first time buyers, as it is at the moment buying our first property is becoming an increasingly dim prospect.
Posted by [GSV]Trig - Thu 18 Mar 2004 09:41
If only the people would revolt….

I drink, not a great deal but I have been known to goto extremes, I dont smoke so that doesnt bother me as such..

The bit that does bother me is the fact that year after year motorists smokers and drinkers get hit again and again, hows about we stop giving money to people that find loop holes in imigration laws instead….
Posted by Stringent - Thu 18 Mar 2004 10:05
A reason why house prices are so high is because people lie about how much they earn, because you are allowed 3 times your salary. So if you earn £50K a year you can have a £150K house. How many peeps earn £50K a year?!?! Its just madness. They will be in trouble if interest rates go up.
Posted by Angus - Thu 18 Mar 2004 10:14
I don't see why anybody's fussing about 1p a pint. When a pint of stella costs £2.50 anyway the increase is less than inflation.
Posted by Angus - Thu 18 Mar 2004 10:16
Flanderz
A reason why house prices are so high is because people lie about how much they earn, because you are allowed 3 times your salary. So if you earn £50K a year you can have a £150K house. How many peeps earn £50K a year?!?! Its just madness. They will be in trouble if interest rates go up.
And the fact that you can get mortgages based on joint income (in the past he went out and earnt the money, she stayed at home to look after the kids; today everybody goes out and works)
Posted by nichomach - Thu 18 Mar 2004 10:18
'[GSV
Trig']If only the people would revolt….

I drink, not a great deal but I have been known to goto extremes, I dont smoke so that doesnt bother me as such..

The bit that does bother me is the fact that year after year motorists smokers and drinkers get hit again and again, hows about we stop giving money to people that find loop holes in imigration laws instead….

Oh, FFS, how about we stop allowing loopholes for our own corporate and/or rich tax-dodgers first? How about we stop slamming the poorest in society with indirect taxation like VAT and actually put up income tax while cutting VAT or reducing its scope? How about we do something about the exemption from NI for the richest in society? How about that? I'm sick of hearing this “blame the immigrants” crap. I drink, smoke and drive. The increase in duty upon cigarettes is in line with inflation, no more, no less. I have no problem with that. A penny a pint on beer? Oh, that's really going to break the bank - although given that duty rates are frozen on cider, spirits and sparkling wines I can always console myself with a nice malt…

“Has the chancellor hit motorists again?

Vehicle Excise Duty paid by every motorist is being frozen, and a 1.9p a litre rise in unleaded petrol and a similar rise on diesel will be delayed until September.

This will add about £30 a year to a motorist's annual fuel bill.

As expected, Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG) will rise, by 2.4p a litre.”

So not a huge amount there either.

It's a stable budget as far as I can see that doesn't really hit anyone hugely hard.
Posted by steve threlfall - Thu 18 Mar 2004 10:41
Punky
i nearly cried - beer and fags price gone up! my daily sustenance is gettin more and more pricey! dammit!

that was unexpected :eek: :p ;)

give up drinking and smoking? ;) :D

only joking dude please dont hurt me!
Posted by [GSV]Trig - Thu 18 Mar 2004 10:49
and smoking ;)

Nichomach, yes he has his motorists again, we pay more in petrol and taxes each year and yet the state of the roads gets no better, what exactly are we paying for?
Posted by nichomach - Thu 18 Mar 2004 11:01
'[GSV
Trig']and smoking ;)

Nichomach, yes he has his motorists again, we pay more in petrol and taxes each year and yet the state of the roads gets no better, what exactly are we paying for?

Vehicle Excise Duty frozen, less than 2p a litre on unleaded and diesel, with that increase being deferred until September? Hardly seems like an excessive hit to me. If you want to complain about the roads in your area, why not take it up with the local council who are actually responsible for them? Or vote for a different council. If you want to complain about the national road network (motorways), given that every time I use the M6 there's work being done on it (OK, I don't like the temporary speed restrictions and/or lane closures, but that's pretty unavoidable) there IS money being spent on the roads. And on railways, which can provide an alternative. No, it's not perfect, but there is investment being made.
Posted by Zak33 - Thu 18 Mar 2004 11:01
If the duty on Fags and Booze went down, we'd all stop buying it abroad, whether directly (by going in a car) or indirectly (by buying at a local store, whogoes in a van:eek: ) and the tax man would get his bit back.

Did anybody realise that:

the Government is trying to MERGE Inland Revenue (income tax etc) and Customs and Excise (imports and stuff) and threrefore are gonna ditch lots and lots of jobs over only 4 years.

Thats pretty special stuff…..why?

Cos most departments and bloated with systems that dont work, so we're gonna put some more in and ditch some staff, so you'll never be able to talk to a human ever again.

We've gotta live with it all…….

Hey….at LAST VAN DRIVERS are gonna get taxed on private use of their vans JUST LIKE CAR DRIVERS HAVE FOR YEARS….

way toomany building businesses and plumbers etc…use the works van at weekend, insured, taxed, fueled and serviced…..for NOTHING…..

so thats gonna raise some revenue….
Posted by grand_witch - Thu 18 Mar 2004 11:03
My issue is the people who should be paying the highest tax can afford to hire accountants and pay the lowest tax. My personal view is that tax on cigarettes should have gone up more due to the pressure on our Health Service from smokers and smoking related problems. If you know its going to effect your health eventually you should be prepared to pay for it.

No i am not an anti smoker. I used to be one until two years ago. I believe in freedom to choose but everyone should pay for their choices e.g. if you know smoking is bad (it says so on the packet) you should pay the consequences monetary or physical.
Posted by Zak33 - Thu 18 Mar 2004 11:03
nichomach
If you want to complain about the roads in your area, why not take it up with the local council who are actually responsible for them?
Skii tried…..he failed….

Local Council is as profiteering as anyother business….how do I know?

Cos I see what cars they drive as company cars.

And they are NOT economising on vehicles…..at all. Thats YOUR COUNCIL TAX guys…..

so if you go to see the Council Dudes….ask why they have top flight Mondeos/Vectras/Audi….etc

and not Fiat Ceicentos, Agilas, or little vans
Posted by nichomach - Thu 18 Mar 2004 11:06
grand_witch
No i am not an anti smoker. I used to be one until two years ago. I believe in freedom to choose but everyone should pay for their choices e.g. if you know smoking is bad (it says so on the packet) you should pay the consequences monetary or physical.

Well, we already do. Cigarettes in the UK are, what, twice (or more) the price they are in, say, France or Spain, and that difference is accounted for purely by the duty imposed on them.
Posted by nichomach - Thu 18 Mar 2004 11:11
Zak33
Skii tried…..he failed….
Local Council is as profiteering as anyother business….how do I know?
Cos I see what cars they drive as company cars.
And they are NOT economising on vehicles…..at all. Thats YOUR COUNCIL TAX guys…..
so if you go to see the Council Dudes….ask why they have top flight Mondeos/Vectras/Audi….etc
and not Fiat Ceicentos, Agilas, or little vans

Agreed; although I know that our mob do use some smaller cars and have a policy to run all council vehicles on LPG. But that's my point; the state of the roads around a given area is the responsibility of the council for that area. Don't ask where your VED and petrol duty have gone, demand to know where the hell your council tax went.