How about a phone that doesn't shatter into a thousand pieces if it falls on anything denser than an eiderdown pillow?
My wishlist for iPhone 5 is:
1) nothing new
2) BSOD
Q. What do you expect to see in the iPhone 5?
A. The smug reflection of the owner.
Ignoring all the trolls above (not sure there is one genuine post?) - it's a tough question.
Personally, I'd like:
Better battery life
No major changes to the general design (apart from a metal back ideally)
Bigger screen
Memory Card slot
Solar Charging built into the screen (as per Apple's Patent)
mini/micro USB connector which supports OTG
4G LTE support
I know some of those will never happen, but really I can't think of anything more that I want. I don't care about faster CPUs (just uses more battery and encourages lazy software development), I don't care about NFC, cameras, “Siri” or any of the other gimmicks that are constantly requested or appear on the latest Android phones. It's a bit disappointing to see the original article discussing “Specification-slapping” since any intelligent IT professional will know that it would be like comparing apples and oranges - if iOS runs perfectly happily with zero slow down on current CPU/GPUs, but Android crawls on equivalent hardware, does it matter? Not even a little bit.
Apple got it damn near perfect with the iPhone 4 design, so I really really hope they don't change it too much. We'll find out on Wednesday I guess :)
Expecting to see: LTE. 16:9 screen. Faster Wifi. Something that will REVOLUTIONISE THE WORLD AMAHGAWD!!
Like to see: Cheaper price. 100% Waterproof. 3day+ battery life. No smug advertising.
Customisation options.
One of the biggest reasons I won't buy one* is because I'm locked into what Apple thinks is best. Not being able to change they default keyboard without jail-breaking is criminal.
Widgets is another example.
While I'm sure the underlying hardware is fine, the OS is dated to me. Not being able to drop a RSS feed or custom search widget to my homepage is barmy.
*From a tech POV - I wouldn't buy one for many other reasons.
Corners should be rounder, unlike other phones.
Agent - its a good point, most of what makes an iPhone is the software, and I am 100% in agreement that it is dated and needs more configuration options. Not to the level of Android imo (where its very easy to make your device unusable if you do something stupid) but definitely in that sort of direction.
Widgets would be the way to go imo, custom keyboards would be nice too, and a better notification system that isn't pinched from HTC Manilla (WM6 era).
Thats the software though which I would divorce from the phone as much as I would with Android. Although I appreciate it's more difficult with an iPhone since you don't have a choice of software. Does raise an interesting question though..if someone made an iPhone 5 that wasn't Apple branded, ran Android 4.1 and kept the same quality/parts/warranty that Apple provide..would Android fans buy one? I'd certainly by tempted, especially as I really don't like Samsung's design for the SX series (s3 in particular, its like a boat!) but have warmed to Android slightly since my purchase of a china tab.
What I want is 30 days standby battery life. My 1990 Motorola timeport could do it, why can't we do it 22 years later
bobharvey
What I want is 30 days standby battery life. My 1990 Motorola timeport could do it, why can't we do it 22 years later
A timeport is a *phone*. A modern day smartphone has more processing than a PC from that period.
If it's a serious question, then it's because battery technology hasn't advanced as fast as other areas.
The death of android? …i can dream…
By death i mean rebirth into something original, not a blatant copy that has been polished to look ‘classy’ but is no more reliable than windows vista
Back to reality
New iphone, what it needs is
Better screen (if thats even possible, the iphone 4 has one of the best screens you can get in a smartphone)
For apple to use nokias frand patent for wireless induction charging…most of nokias profits come from apple royalties anyway…so that would be another nice feature (cough, hint samsung, if you want something, pay royalties for it, dont steal it thats how reasonable and honest companies trade)
The smaller dock connector is a neer certainty now, it looks far better than the old 30pin system, however it does leave me worried as to wether it will be more flimsy… Hopefully not
Better quality front camera, and louder loudspeaker would both be advantageous too
Who needs nfc, looks rubbish anyway, i like paying with cards…
4g on uk networks spectrums would be nice
There is always room for improvement in the camera department
And i would love to see a company who can come close with a packge deal of good quality phone, stable, solid software, and a brilliant overall experience apart from nokia, who can compete with apple on realistic terms…the nokia lumias are the only real competitors at the moment, windows phone is the only realisticly quality alternative thats not prone to dodgy software, flimsy phones, and immature companies.
MicroSD card slot ?
And, maybe a duff offer to counter Samsung's offer. Trade in a working Galaxy S2 or S3 and provided you have bought an iPhone 5, you will get a FREE iPad3!
how about a phone that doesn't drop calls?
- MicroSD slot
- Removable battery
- Standard mini/micro USB OTG port
- Alternative keyboards
- Worldwide 4G support
- MSC connectivity
- Real world pricing
- Direct control over audio hardware components
Spud1
Ignoring all the trolls above (not sure there is one genuine post?) - it's a tough question.
Excuse me? Admittedly the pillow part was for dramatic effect but I was serious.
How many shattered Iphone's have you seen people using?
I have seen quite a few, many of them belonging friends who had to use them for a while as their insurance had a £100 excess and they couldn't afford to replace it right away. The insurance companies applied these excesses due to the sheer amount of them that ended up shattered. I mean its all very well making a great looking phone but when even a light fall can shatter the front AND back of a phone then you have not only placed form over function to a ridiculous degree but you have also done your customer's a disservice by essentially forcing them into buying punitive insurance policies to protect the over priced, brittle phone you sold to them in the first place.
I know other phones can break easily too but most aren't as expensive, as brittle or have as high excesses placed on their insurance cover.
george1979
How about a phone that doesn't shatter into a thousand pieces if it falls on anything denser than an eiderdown pillow?
It is really disappointing to see that troll-ish comments like these being not only posted here, but also approved by some other members too. If there is -any- truth in that statement, then the fact that my iPhone is still in one piece after 5 years of service must be one of life's great mystery. I do not need to hear praises about the iPhone, merely objective discussions and I am still awaiting for the facts before making my decision. But blatant exaggeration either way is off putting and the irony is that rarely on Hexus do I see people make unrealistic claims about their iPhones, yet on every thread you have a couple of comments similar to the ones quoted. And I am supposed to believe that iPhone users are the ones with issues? :shocked2:
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On the hardware end, I think that any modern smartphones would largely meet my requirements. Things like micro-SD card slots would be nice to see, but not expected.
If an e-wallet is included and can integrate all (many) loyalty card into it, then that's a real deal maker for me. I do not can about making micro-payment with my phone (I'd probably rather not), and I'd rather carry my credit/debit card separately. But my card holder is probably thicker than most smartphones just because it's overstuffed with point/loyalty/frequent flyer cards.
Some kind of waterproof coating like Liquipel. That stuff is amazing.
The phrase “This product contains technologies invented by Samsung and/or generic unpatentable designs.” ;)
Never had an iPhone myself, Maybe it's me but I don't like the look of them, But a friend has, And she has broke 3 screens in the last couple of years, Maybe it's just her, But I use my phones on building sites and have dropped them no end of times onto all sorts of stuff, And never had a screen break.
Plastic may not give the air of quality, But metal and glass is far to dense a combination for something that could be dropped, And you don't need a white coat and think tank to figure that out, That comes under the heading of common sense.
I've gotta agree with the rubbish design of iPhone 4's and their back and front glass….I know lots of people who have said they'll move away from iPhone if they don't change the design! However I can see that whatever they do people *may* be underwhelmed with the 5…
george1979
I know other phones can break easily too but most aren't as expensive, as brittle or have as high excesses placed on their insurance cover.
Erm, well no. It actually takes quite a lot to shatter/break an iPhone 4/4S - just as much as an S3 or other high end, slim phone. I've dropped my work one from a height, down the stairs , onto concrete, it's bounced down solid stairs at work..and its still fine. My personal phone (HTC Titan) has had similar treatment in it's time, and has a dent in the case but again no shattered screen.
I did admittedly smash the screen on my very first iPhone (first generation), but that took a very drunk night and me falling over iPhone first into a rock with all my weight on it.
ALL of current gen high end smartphones are susceptible to smashed screens/breakages, not just iPhones. If you are complaining about high excesses then that is another issue - really no-one ever needs mobile phone insurance if you have a home insurance policy. In 99% of polices your phone is covered (in the home or out!) and the excess is the same regardless of whether it's an iPhone, S3, Nokia 3210 - usually £50-£100. Your phone is not indestructible, it's not an old nokia - take care of it like anything else and it will be fine.
Back OT - 4G support looks promising, especially with everythingeverywhere holding their own media event the day before (tuesday) to announce UK wide 4G LTE rollout! Good job I am on Orange ;)
http://www.slashgear.com/everything-everywhere-reveals-4g-lte-event-on-iphone-5-eve-07246477/Also latest news shows that Qualcomm have their Global 4G LTE chip in production for delivery in time for the iPhone 5 launch..of course all rumour right now but it does fit. UK 4G/LTE support would seal the deal here for me and many more ;D No idea how EE will deal with data usage on that network though..a 100-1000mb connection would eat up most plans in a second.
A user replaceable battery would be high up on my list of wants. As someone who tends to keep their phones for quite a long time, it would be annoying to have to send my phone off just to get a new battery. Have any existing iPhone users had to do this? I'm curious to know how much it might cost?
TooNice
george1979
How about a phone that doesn't shatter into a thousand pieces if it falls on anything denser than an eiderdown pillow?
It is really disappointing to see that troll-ish comments like these being not only posted here, but also approved by some other members too. If there is -any- truth in that statement, then the fact that my iPhone is still in one piece after 5 years of service must be one of life's great mystery. I do not need to hear praises about the iPhone, merely objective discussions and I am still awaiting for the facts before making my decision. But blatant exaggeration either way is off putting and the irony is that rarely on Hexus do I see people make unrealistic claims about their iPhones, yet on every thread you have a couple of comments similar to the ones quoted. And I am supposed to believe that iPhone users are the ones with issues? :shocked2:
OK I'll assume you didn't even bother to read my follow up to that which was posted about 10 minutes before you started trolling. I'll also assume that since your IPhone is 5 years old then it is not an IPhone 4 or 4S which is obviously what I was comparing it to. So unbunch your panties there pal, everything is gonna be OK.
And Spud1 I already said other phones are also susceptible to breakages - of course they bloody are! The fact that yours was OK after a fall doesn't change the fact that a high percentage of owners I know have had broken Iphone 4s and, as I said, making the front and back out of glass wasn't the best idea - more chance of breakages.
Your statement that 99% of home insurance policies cover your phone out of the home is incorrect - there are differing levels of policy or add ons to purchase before that cover is in place. Also the majority of people do not know this or still use phone insurance. Phone insurances do often carry higher excesses for Iphone 4s due to the high replacement cost and chance of breakages. I have actually looked into this when I was upgrading my phone a few months back and I have worked in the insurance industry for almost 5 years so, while I'm not claiming to be an expert, I am not talking out of my behind either.
So I'll spell it out without humour since that does not seems to be a strong suit when it comes to this subject - I would like to see a construction that does not use so many brittle materials. Perhaps use metal or carbon fibre for the back, something suitably high end so as to keep the aesthetics but reduce breakages. There all better now :)
*Sigh* the mere fact that even a mild attempt at humour provokes such responses from Iphone users is pathetic. I'm sorry I even touched my keyboard but I suppose I should have known better.
There isn't really a debate on if the iPhone 4 has a screen more likely to crack: It is - the insurance companies have given figures out to confirm it,
http://www.cio.com/article/624764/Cracking_the_Case_of_the_Troublesome_iPhone_4_GlassHow delicate is the iPhone 4 glass? SquareTrade, an iPhone warranty provider, reported that iPhone 4 screens break a whopping 82 percent more than iPhone 3GS screens.
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So what's behind the iPhone 4's higher risk of a cracked screen? Sure, the iPhone 4 has glass on both front and back, thus having twice as much glass as the single-sided iPhone 3GS—but there's more to it.
Perhaps the biggest reason for the iPhone 4 screen's susceptibility to breakage: The iPhone 4 glass extends to the edges of the phone. An impact on the edge, say, a fall on concrete from only a couple of feet in the air, will shatter the glass, says Wiens, because the glass directly takes the impact.
On the iPhone 3GS, though, a relatively large metal ring surrounds the edge. The metal ring is a lot more forgiving than glass and thus can better handle such an impact, Wiens says.
Apple claims iPhone 4 screens are 30 times harder than plastic and comparable to sapphire crystal, yet that's part of the problem, some Apple iPhone experts say. Hardness makes the screen more scratch resistant, but not as elastic. Given plastic's elasticity, there's less chance of the plastic shattering. "Yes, the are 30 times harder and so they're going to break more," Wiens says.
Glass front and back, goes to the edge and not protected by a rim of some sort - of course it's going to break more. 82% more apparently.
Spud1
Agent - its a good point, most of what makes an iPhone is the software, and I am 100% in agreement that it is dated and needs more configuration options. Not to the level of Android imo (where its very easy to make your device unusable if you do something stupid) but definitely in that sort of direction.
Widgets would be the way to go imo, custom keyboards would be nice too, and a better notification system that isn't pinched from HTC Manilla (WM6 era).
Thats the software though which I would divorce from the phone as much as I would with Android. Although I appreciate it's more difficult with an iPhone since you don't have a choice of software. Does raise an interesting question though..if someone made an iPhone 5 that wasn't Apple branded, ran Android 4.1 and kept the same quality/parts/warranty that Apple provide..would Android fans buy one? I'd certainly by tempted, especially as I really don't like Samsung's design for the SX series (s3 in particular, its like a boat!) but have warmed to Android slightly since my purchase of a china tab.
I dont think i would, i just dont like the apple hardware at all and personally i think ‘quality’ is more of an illusion built from the superiority impression they give off. I dont think they are nice devices to hold and use, they are awkward and un-ergonomic. The hardware is no better than many cheaper phones including samsung's. Besides which the price is also an issue, the inflated price of apple phones is definitely another factor in this.
ionicle
The death of android? …i can dream…
By death i mean rebirth into something original, not a blatant copy that has been polished to look ‘classy’ but is no more reliable than windows vista
Thats funny because statistically iphone apps crash more than android ones and a lot of the features suggested by people on here already exist in android
Spud1
Erm, well no. It actually takes quite a lot to shatter/break an iPhone 4/4S - just as much as an S3 or other high end, slim phone. I've dropped my work one from a height, down the stairs , onto concrete, it's bounced down solid stairs at work..and its still fine. My personal phone (HTC Titan) has had similar treatment in it's time, and has a dent in the case but again no shattered screen.
I did admittedly smash the screen on my very first iPhone (first generation), but that took a very drunk night and me falling over iPhone first into a rock with all my weight on it.
ALL of current gen high end smartphones are susceptible to smashed screens/breakages, not just iPhones. If you are complaining about high excesses then that is another issue - really no-one ever needs mobile phone insurance if you have a home insurance policy. In 99% of polices your phone is covered (in the home or out!) and the excess is the same regardless of whether it's an iPhone, S3, Nokia 3210 - usually £50-£100. Your phone is not indestructible, it's not an old nokia - take care of it like anything else and it will be fine.
Back OT - 4G support looks promising, especially with everythingeverywhere holding their own media event the day before (tuesday) to announce UK wide 4G LTE rollout! Good job I am on Orange ;)
http://www.slashgear.com/everything-everywhere-reveals-4g-lte-event-on-iphone-5-eve-07246477/
Also latest news shows that Qualcomm have their Global 4G LTE chip in production for delivery in time for the iPhone 5 launch..of course all rumour right now but it does fit. UK 4G/LTE support would seal the deal here for me and many more ;D No idea how EE will deal with data usage on that network though..a 100-1000mb connection would eat up most plans in a second.
And YOUR experience is clearly so much more valid than all the other people in the world. Out of all the people i know with iphone 4s (there is a LOT)i think i know 3 people's who arent broken in some way.
Taken from Agent's sig:
Unhelpful posts:
When a product has a known flaw that's posted about all over the web, posting “But mine works fine guys”
What would i like to see?
1 - introduce something new that they genuinely developed from scratch rather than stole/copied from another OS and just polished off
2 - In the more likely event that they do, do that, dont patent the idea then attack everyone in the world for using it
3 - Free adaptors with the phone to allow easy connection between whatever connector apple use and the now world standard micro usb
4 - For this device to be a huge let down and apple to be taken down a few notches
How likely are my wishes? not very.
A large Pennis on the back instead of an Apple ? so when you hold it to your head… > I dont need to go on here, you get the point !
Lots of angry sheeple lined up outside Apple stores as they finally wake up to the fact they've been being ripped off year on year.
Interested to see whats happening with the screen on the new one, given that theyve been pushing retina on the older ones.
Better battery life than the rest of the market.
Option to use it without itunes for those occasions I would like to drag and drop.
pp05
Better battery life than the rest of the market.
Option to use it without itunes for those occasions I would like to drag and drop.
Yeah dependence on itunes is another major flaw IMO. Worst music software ever!
george1979
OK I'll assume you didn't even bother to read my follow up to that which was posted about 10 minutes before you started trolling. I'll also assume that since your IPhone is 5 years old then it is not an IPhone 4 or 4S which is obviously what I was comparing it to. So unbunch your panties there pal, everything is gonna be OK.
So I didn't refresh my browser before you made your post, it happens.
If you'd stuck to a sensible criticism from the start like like you subsequently did, it wouldn't have looked like a cheap snipe. All the more if you can provide a credible source that tested the sturdiness of various smartphones (I wouldn't be surprised if such tests have been conducted). I can not call you a liar for anecdotes. I can give you the benefit of doubt about having many friends with broken iPhone 4/4S. It's plausible, even though I do not know a single person in real life with a broken iPhone 4/4S. I doubt either of our samples are statistically significant. But once you make overblown statement without even a smilie to indicate humour, can you expect no one to call you on it? It *is* trollish behaviour.
Your “humour” did escape me. Though had this thread been about any other phone I *still* wouldn't find it funny though, so no, it's nothing to do with iPhone ownership. I have certainly little reason to praise my antic BUT durability is certainly not one of it's weakness. If it's pathetic to hope for facts over cheap shots then that's what I shall be :)
A Siri that tells lies for fun.
I'd like to see how is it worth living up all hypes, at least since last year.
TooNice
So I didn't refresh my browser before you made your post, it happens.
If you'd stuck to a sensible criticism from the start like like you subsequently did, it wouldn't have looked like a cheap snipe. All the more if you can provide a credible source that tested the sturdiness of various smartphones (I wouldn't be surprised if such tests have been conducted). I can not call you a liar for anecdotes. I can give you the benefit of doubt about having many friends with broken iPhone 4/4S. It's plausible, even though I do not know a single person in real life with a broken iPhone 4/4S. I doubt either of our samples are statistically significant. But once you make overblown statement without even a smilie to indicate humour, can you expect no one to call you on it? It *is* trollish behaviour.
Your “humour” did escape me. Though had this thread been about any other phone I *still* wouldn't find it funny though, so no, it's nothing to do with iPhone ownership. I have certainly little reason to praise my antic BUT durability is certainly not one of it's weakness. If it's pathetic to hope for facts over cheap shots then that's what I shall be :)
didn't read Agents post which quoted insurance company statistics then?
I was going to say ‘Android.’ as my answer to OP, but then saw the following:
Spud1
… Does raise an interesting question though..if someone made an iPhone 5 that wasn't Apple branded, ran Android 4.1 and kept the same quality/parts/warranty that Apple provide..would Android fans buy one? I'd certainly by tempted, especially as I really don't like Samsung's design for…
Samsung, for one, almost certainly wouldn't dare do something like you've suggested after the recent Apple-Samsung fiasco. Well, they might if they wanted to lose some more $1b notes.
Where I agree with you is that such a phone would likely sell well.
Biscuit
Yeah dependence on itunes is another major flaw IMO. Worst music software ever!
Hate iTunes. I know people with iPhones and, although I believe you HAVE to install iTunes so you can accept Apple's User Agreement, I recommend they install
Media Monkey soon afterwards for transferring their music.
Annoyingly, it isn't free - well, the basic version is. However, it seems to be the
best of the bunch if you (imo, very wisely) wish to avoid iTunes.
malculator
Q. What do you expect to see in the iPhone 5?
A. The smug reflection of the owner.
lol and i'm only a few weeks from buying the wife one against all my better instincts.
The one thing that apple could do to help us all is invest in new battery technology/fuel celltechnology, they could tempt even the most die hard anti apple mob (and i promise i'm not in that mob-really i'm not lol) with 2/3 days heavy use let alone 20+. It really isn't theoretically impossible, just would take a lot of money and apple have magnitudes greater than “a lot of money” sat doing nothing offshore.
The one thing that could help many apple customers is micro sd. Never going to happen because they make too much money from upgrading the flash memory, you put an SD slot in and no one buys the top one, Samsung haven't even bothered with a 64gb S3 yet,just talking about it and if they do it'll be relatively very small volumes.
Compromise is obvious. PROPRIETARY APPLE FLASH MEDIA (look to sony again lol). Apple can still rip people off (not trying to stoke any fires, but that is the correct phrase for charging what they do for 64gb vs 32gb etc, given the actual cost of the chip, but i'm more than happy to change it to “milk their customers as much as they think they can get away with” as i can't afford the kind of lawyers they can). It at least gives their customers the OPTION and apple can claim theirs is more expensive, because it's a better memory card somehow- even though it'll probably be made by Samsung!
TooNice
So I didn't refresh my browser before you made your post, it happens.
If you'd stuck to a sensible criticism from the start like like you subsequently did, it wouldn't have looked like a cheap snipe. All the more if you can provide a credible source that tested the sturdiness of various smartphones (I wouldn't be surprised if such tests have been conducted). I can not call you a liar for anecdotes. I can give you the benefit of doubt about having many friends with broken iPhone 4/4S. It's plausible, even though I do not know a single person in real life with a broken iPhone 4/4S. I doubt either of our samples are statistically significant. But once you make overblown statement without even a smilie to indicate humour, can you expect no one to call you on it? It *is* trollish behaviour.
Your “humour” did escape me. Though had this thread been about any other phone I *still* wouldn't find it funny though, so no, it's nothing to do with iPhone ownership. I have certainly little reason to praise my antic BUT durability is certainly not one of it's weakness. If it's pathetic to hope for facts over cheap shots then that's what I shall be :)
The fact that you yourself mentioned my 1st statement was ridiculously exaggerated should be indication enough that it was meant to be humorous or did you honestly think I was seriously suggesting that dropping an Iphone on a pillow would break it? No you didn't did you but your immediate response was to accuse me of trolling even though my statement, though obviously ridiculous, was based in fact - as others have helpfully pointed out.
Anyway enough of this nonsense - lets just leave it at that because this is extremely boring now…
Not going to reply to much of the anger in here - but OK, fair point - if a phone has more glass then it's more likely to break than a phone with less glass. I wouldn't trust the insurance companies stats, but common sense does indeed tell you that.
What we need is a new material that isn't plastic but still allows a mobile signal through (so basically NOT plastic, which cannot give a high end feel), and one that is affordable to mass produce ;) Whoever comes up with that will be a very rich person..
Also whether or not the hardware really does feel solid/quality etc is subjective..agree on that too :)
The insurance thing is hardly Apple (or any smartphone supplier)'s fault though - if people do silly things and don't think to check their policies or to look after their phones, then bad things are more likely to happen. I still think that most insurance policies include phone cover as standard, but yes policies that don't include or offer this as a cheap option will exist.
Even if the above paragraph is subjective and people disagree - then at least it is a fact that mobile phone insurance is something that *most* people don't need - either because it's very hard to claim, very expensive or more often they are already covered elsewhere.
http://www.which.co.uk/news/2012/01/mobile-phone-insurance—money-products-to-avoid-277318/Baius - yes I don't think it would ever happen anyway (Apple would never allow it, it's business suicide!) but I think it would sell to many.
what i want to see is a revolutionary device that is well worth its price tag
what i expect to see is a phone with little to no upgrades, just a new design and slightly longer screen
Biscuit
didn't read Agents post which quoted insurance company statistics then?
Indeed I have. And had the first poster opted with something like that, I wouldn't have called on it.
That doesn't mean there would be nothing to discuss of course. The article provides a useful contrast with older iPhones, though it doesn't provide any comparison with other popular smartphones. In absolute terms, the failure rate within 4 months has increased by 1.9% compared to the 3GS, but how does that 4.7% compare with the industry average? See, I would say that over 1% sound pretty high, but for all I know, 2.5% of phone buyers are clumsy enough to break any smartphones in the market. Another question I have is about the 82% increase in broken screen. The number paints a dire picture, but what is the base number the increase is based on, and again, how does it compare to other phones?
george1979
The fact that you yourself mentioned my 1st statement was ridiculously exaggerated should be indication enough that it was meant to be humorous or did you honestly think I was seriously suggesting that dropping an Iphone on a pillow would break it? No you didn't did you but your immediate response was to accuse me of trolling even though my statement, though obviously ridiculous, was based in fact - as others have helpfully pointed out.
Anyway enough of this nonsense - lets just leave it at that because this is extremely boring now…
Unfortunately, some people do believe in their own outrageous comments, or make such statement just to troll, so I am afraid that it's not enough to indicate humour.
If someone was to say in a “What would you like to see in an Galaxy S4” thread “A phone that is not a complete copy of the iPhone”, how soon do you think that another poster is going to call him on that comment? And if said person was to then say “Well duh, of course it was a joke” (assume you do not know the person's general position in the matter) what would be your genuine reaction?
And, I'll also leave it at this. No point ending a good week-end on a pointless argument on the Internet. Besides, what I'd like to see is less important than the actual product.. so I'll just have to wait a couple more days for reports of the product announcement and a couple of weeks for actual reviews.
TooNice - the same company have published such a study ;) See below:
http://www.squaretrade.com/cell-phone-comparison-study-nov-10squaretrade
Synopsis: SquareTrade analyzed failure rates of over 50,000 smart phones covered by SquareTrade Care Plans and found that Apple iPhones had the fewest malfunctions, with Motorola and HTC not far behind.
BUT before people jump on me, they have also published studies showing the exact opposite, and some in between..obviously it will vary by year, but sometimes even within the same one. Statistics are a wonderful thing, they can be used to show whatever message you want! Why do you think politicians and the media use them so much :)
One fairly major thing that I am sure WILL appear on the iPhone5 but that I really am against, is the headphone jack being moved to the bottom. I don't quite get the logic here - surely it just means that it's going to be harder to dock this phone/use it with accessories, and it's going to be a right pain in your pocket (I insert my phone with the top facing upward, which limits accidental power button pressing). It's one move that I really don't understand.
Spud1
One fairly major thing that I am sure WILL appear on the iPhone5 but that I really am against, is the headphone jack being moved to the bottom. I don't quite get the logic here - surely it just means that it's going to be harder to dock this phone/use it with accessories, and it's going to be a right pain in your pocket (I insert my phone with the top facing upward, which limits accidental power button pressing). It's one move that I really don't understand.
I was a bit baffled by why they did this on the Nexus 7, fortunately my One X has it on the top. The wierd one with my One X was moving the charger to the side. I dont understand the reasoning to change perfectly functional standards that people expect at all?!
Spud1
TooNice - the same company have published such a study ;) See below:
http://www.squaretrade.com/cell-phone-comparison-study-nov-10
BUT before people jump on me, they have also published studies showing the exact opposite, and some in between..obviously it will vary by year, but sometimes even within the same one. Statistics are a wonderful thing, they can be used to show whatever message you want! Why do you think politicians and the media use them so much :)
One fairly major thing that I am sure WILL appear on the iPhone5 but that I really am against, is the headphone jack being moved to the bottom. I don't quite get the logic here - surely it just means that it's going to be harder to dock this phone/use it with accessories, and it's going to be a right pain in your pocket (I insert my phone with the top facing upward, which limits accidental power button pressing). It's one move that I really don't understand.
Actually,if you read the link it is describing something different - the link from Agent is accident damage which indicates the iPhone is indeed more prone to accident damage(or iPhone users just are more accident prone). The link you describe,is
non-accident damage which means both statistics don't contradict each other,and moreover accident damage is stated as the most common form of failure at 75% it seems.
Moreover,regarding accident damage,I agree with the others as even my mate who is an iPhone fan, has told me how people he has known have damaged their ones, through relatively benign knocks,and he is careful with his one.
I would like to see more sensible pricing on contracts as the premium you have to pay for a iPhone over a galaxy s3 or htc one x is ludicrous. I'd hope that due to the recent surge of android handsets knocking apple off the top spot that this will happen but unfortunately it most likely won't as there will be millions of sheep queuing up on the first day paying over the top for the privilege of having the newest iPhone from day one. Consumerism, sigh.
I'd like to see Apple's suppliers not exploiting their workers. I'm not going to buy any Apple products unless that happens.
My iPhone 4s cracked on a carpet drop, my best mates cracked front and back while in a case, my daughters cracked on the back (albeit a nasty drop onto the pavement) You can see how many companies there are out there doing iphone 4 screen repairs. Its an industry.
All that said, they are nice phones…
What I want to see in the new phone would be a lighter design, much longer battery life, 20day standby at least, a drop in price and a complete overhaul of iOS. remove the reliance on itunes and a massive increase (250+gb storage) for years we have had 16/32 gb - I want more, more, more
jonah
I'd like to see Apple's suppliers not exploiting their workers. I'm not going to buy any Apple products unless that happens.
Can't let this one go - I fully agree that their suppliers should not exploit their workers.
That said, Samsung suffer from the same problem, as do HTC, and I would expect most major technology companies that outsource their work. So really, you are very limited in terms of what smartphone to get…even Nokia will suffer from the issue to some degree, with their Lumia range being manufactured mostly in China (although some other non Windows phones are still made in Finland).
Spud1
Can't let this one go - I fully agree that their suppliers should not exploit their workers.
That said, Samsung suffer from the same problem, as do HTC, and I would expect most major technology companies that outsource their work. So really, you are very limited in terms of what smartphone to get…even Nokia will suffer from the issue to some degree, with their Lumia range being manufactured mostly in China (although some other non Windows phones are still made in Finland).
Another agreement here.
It's a harsh truth that the only way we can enjoy the product at a reasonable price and the companies still make a decent profit is by utilising under paid and over worked people, usually in Asia.
I would pay more for the knowledge that the staff were treated better, but I wouldn't sacrifice features.
It's a conversation that spirals well past mobiles though. The west would be in serious trouble when it comes to tech if we didn't have cheap labour from the east.
The sad truth is most Apple fans with more money than sense couldn't care less about the poor souls building their shiny new gadgets.
How about putting pictures of the sweatshops on the walls of your stores Tim? Think people will be happy parting with their cash then?
Spud1
One fairly major thing that I am sure WILL appear on the iPhone5 but that I really am against, is the headphone jack being moved to the bottom. I don't quite get the logic here - surely it just means that it's going to be harder to dock this phone/use it with accessories, and it's going to be a right pain in your pocket (I insert my phone with the top facing upward, which limits accidental power button pressing). It's one move that I really don't understand.
I used to put my phone top side up, but have since switched top side down. I started doing that after a friend noted that you do not need to turn the phone when taking it out of the pocket that way and I can't say that I am too worried about the power button pressing. Well, as I am not too worried about having to turn the phone either (though for the more clumsy, it might reduce the chance of dropping the phone by 0.01% ;)), so was I using this phone as a music player (am not presently, due to the limited capacity of my current device) I'd probably carry using it top side up.
So moving the headphone jack actually works for me (the iPhone 5 will have the capacity I need to use as a music player so it is something I'll keep in mind). BUT, I am quite confident that I would be able to adjust the way I insert my phone inside my pocket almost instantly (it was a lot easier than I thought). One thing I will add is that while I am not sure how often the power button has been accidentally pressed, but it has not been enough to be noticeable.
pctech2012
The sad truth is most Apple fans with more money than sense couldn't care less about the poor souls building their shiny new gadgets.
How about putting pictures of the sweatshops on the walls of your stores Tim? Think people will be happy parting with their cash then?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-05/samsung-china-workers-physically-verbally-abused-group-says.htmlWhile it doesn't excuse Apple (though, I quote: “Foxconn, the Apple supplier targeted by human-rights activists after the suicides, has cut working hours and improved safety at a faster pace than it was required, the Fair Labor Association said in a report last month.”), as already mentioned, issue unfortunately goes beyond Samsung as reported in the article, or Apple / Foxconn.
Do you care enough about the poor souls to do without any shiny new gadget?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497A very good article form the BBC on the new Iphone 5. Does sum it all up very well IMO, and id be keen to hear the views of people supporting Apple & who are set up to buy the Iphone 5! :)
Interesting (if very biased!) viewpoint from that journalist - although its obviously all opinion alone.
I disagree with much of what he says, and as for lack of excitement…well time will tell when we see how long the queues are.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter, I am excited about the new phone as are millions more, looking forward to the reveal tonight and launch next week :)
What would I like to see?
An injunction on the sale of it :p
Waterproofing, as this would put pressure on other manufacturers to do the same, though I've heard Nokia have already been developing this for sometime.
I'd like to see Jesus every time I turn it on.
So..announcement over (a bit earlier)
Sounds good to me - pretty much exactly what we expected which is good news, no big surprises :) Plus official confirmation that it supports LTE on the 1800 band so I'll be able to use it on Orange/EE.
Fingers crossed I can get a pre-order on friday now..if I am lucky all the bull..rubbish about the iPhone 5 not being popular will be true and I wont have a problem.
maybe somthing that wont break as easily and is water resistant. Also maybe 4g support.
Spud1
So..announcement over (a bit earlier)
Sounds good to me - pretty much exactly what we expected which is good news, no big surprises :) Plus official confirmation that it supports LTE on the 1800 band so I'll be able to use it on Orange/EE.
Fingers crossed I can get a pre-order on friday now..if I am lucky all the bull..rubbish about the iPhone 5 not being popular will be true and I wont have a problem.
I have already seen at least 10 people on my Facebook preparing for it, so I would get your hopes up!
Should be easy enough anyway, I have only done it once (for the iPhone 4…I hated the cheap plastic 3G/S and rather pointless 4S) and it was just a case of sitting there refreshing the apple store page. Hopefully most will just pre order for delivery rather than going to collect in person :)