Real mass market penetration needs cheaper devices, there are a very large number of people who won't go all in at over £400, but would get in at £250 or so. An 8GB iPad2 with a cheaper battery could do that. If Apple want to own the tablet market long term they will need to move down the price ladder like they did with iPods (Nano, Shuffle). They always keep old iPhone models hanging about as cheaper devices, you can still buy a 3GS or 4…

Cheaper devices can be a gateway to the ecosystem, buy in once and then your stuck in by content you can't get out.

Perhaps this larger battery isn't a single battery but a keyboard/device setup like the transformer and 14,000mAh is total battery not single figure?

I highly doubt they increase the battery size that significantly given the cost of batteries.

My personal thoughts on the matter are that an increased size/weight for a larger battery may be suitable for Apple's wish to enter medical and other industrial markets, where the tablet would need to last a full working day as a minimum and the form factor may be limited by EM requirements anyway.

Maybe!

a differentiation of the increased resolution ipad and the current resolution ipad will almost certainly happen, given how much more expensive it will be (more expensive screen, which requires more grunt, so needs more batteries).

ipad pro, ipad +, whatever its called. Im also guessing the current res ipad 2 will be left more or less untouched, and its price will just be shifted down a notch or two.

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Trig;2232661']Perhaps this larger battery isn't a single battery but a keyboard/device setup like the transformer and 14,000mAh is total battery not single figure?

That would be my guess too - in which case it'll be interesting to see how close to the Transformer the Apple device is. Having had one of the Transformer tablets for a while I can clearly see what a big plus for iOS users such a device would be.

That said, I really don't hold to this “thinnest is best” idiom, so if iPad3 is a bit “chunkier” than the current model then I don't see this as a drawback necessarily. If they then pair that with a price drop of the current model (to drag in the punters who've been avoiding tablets as too expensive) then that sounds like a whole load of sense to me.

HW_90
I highly doubt they increase the battery size that significantly given the cost of batteries.

This is Apple. Double the battery size means triple the price.

mAh is a meaningless metric you have to combine it with voltage to get kWh.
Easy way of increasing mAh is change some cells from series to parallel.

It could be bigger than 9.7" and so takes a bigger battery. Interesting its a sharp screen, does LG and samsung not touch them with a barge pole these days

mAh must be at 1V or something so your point is meaningless really as kWh will just be the same. As for the screen, that's apple being petty isn't it. Battery life will soon be all they have going for them if they carry on with their antics.

mark22
mAh must be at 1V or something so your point is meaningless really as kWh will just be the same. As for the screen, that's apple being petty isn't it. Battery life will soon be all they have going for them if they carry on with their antics.

What? :confused:

Most mobile batteries are 3.7v there days
So the standard 6.5Ah ipad battery is 24Wh

oops in my previous post I meant mWh not kWh!

Moto recently raised there battery voltages up from 3.7 to 3.9v which gives more Wh's for the same mAh's

Apple could be going after headline grabbing mAh's for there battery when infact its total capacity (and thus size) isn't much bigger. They could of course just be moving over to lipo batteries

miniyazz
What? :confused:

I don't want to go to first principles although that seems whats necessary with our useless Blair era.

Higher resolution screen, better camera and integrated with Siri.

Apple will also say better battery life but they said that with the iPhone 4S and I think it has been proved not to be the case.

mark22
I don't want to go to first principles although that seems whats necessary with our useless Blair era.

Please don't patronise me. Either explain what you are talking about or I will dismiss the fairly garbled post you spouted as drivel.

Smaller, faster, lighter, thinner with longer battery life and higher resolution. iPad X.
;)

Would like a comparison of a Windows 8 tablet vs. the iPad 3 (maybe iPad 4 depending on Windows 8 release date).

I disagree, there is a point where you can be too light, I've already heard an apple diehard say his ipad2 is too light.

What would be more likely is keeping the weight the same but increasing battery life, imho thats how they made the ipad2 lighter than the ipad1, think about it, smaller manufacturing process in the CPU and other internal components than the ipad1 had in the ipad2, therefor less voltage required, they hit the same life with less power so they can use a smaller battery and get the same results in a “thinner, lighter more powerful ipad”.
If the screen and other “new” features in the ipad3 can do it with the same or less power they can either reduce battery size again and make it lighter/thinner again, or they could keep the same battery and then just keep it the same weight as the ipad2, imagine how long it'd take the “other” tablet manu's to respond to something faster than the ipad2 with a higher res screen, iphone4s spec camera's (ie 8mp but with improved optics etc) but with an extra few hours bolted onto the battery life…

For there normal price point of £349 or whatever the 16Gb iPad Wifi model is…