If the prices they were quoting were the sim free prices i'd of been tempted but since they are how much you have to pay on top of an already poor value contract NO WAY
No. I will get another Android phone… in February when my contract is up… because I use google for my calendars, and run Linux on my PCs :)
Pre-ordered myself the 16GB white one about half an hour ago.
Got someone buying my iPhone 4 16GB next week for £300 so I see it as £200 for the upgrade. Not a bad price if you ask me.
Quite likely. If I hadn't just been hit by a big MOT bill I would have pre ordered one to replace my 3GS. I'll get one soon enough on a SIM free deal.
Have pored over the technical advances in the 4S and realising that it's undeniably a very capable handset, irrespective of whether it's called a ‘5’ or not, I'm tempted to throw lots of pennies at the fruit company.
NO!
I can buy a i7 5000 and still be left with money in my pocket.
With OilSheikh on this one, pfft you have money to burn that is your choice :)
An i7 5000?? You mean a Xeon??
Not a chance. My samsung galaxy 2 is a better phone. I got it sim free which can now be had for under £400.
Who wants it with the likes of the galaxy 2 available. Apple is fast loosing its midas touch on the mobile market IMO, and good riddance!
Should add a forum poll. But, no. I have much better things to do with my money.
Not for me. Partly because of Apple's sue everyone attitude, and partly because (ironically, yes) I currently just want a phone that works.. and for me that means not using iTunes, and not trying to work around it. And partly because of my current investment into the Android ecosystem.
Yep, because it does what I want it to. It will replace my 3G which recently finally gave up the ghost. IMO the interface is more polished and the hardware way less fragmented than Android.
NO!
(just to appease the 4 character limit)
Too rich for my blood :surrender:
Agreed SGS2 seems better that the iPhone 4S… but for me Windows Phone 7 is top dog!!
There's a lot of people in here saying that the SGS2 is better than the iPhone 4S, but no-one's justifying that statement.
In what way is it actually better?
In my opinion, the price of the 4S is justified by the inclusion of iOS, the rock solid stability of the OS (had my iPhone 4 a year today and only experienced one crash) and the fact that the phone isn't some way to being a small laptop..
The Samsung Galaxy S2 is a fantastic phone. It is very quick,the UI is very smooth and it has a decent camera and screen too compared to many other Android phones.
I think it's a toss up between the S2 and the 4S - thing is will you buy, or upgrade to it?
I have just preordered the 64GB Black version, I currently have the 3G and have had it since day one, so I have skipped 2 generations.
Not a chance. Why pay double for roughly the same hardware but with a ton of restrictions?
So many good android phones out there and if you go HTC you get sense which smooths the rough edges off of android very nicely.
i will not be buying an iPhone… probably ever.
I loved my iPhone 3GS, and am a big fan of iOS… however I was overdue for an upgrade, waited for new iPhone announcement, and have just signed a 2 year contract on a fantastic Samsung Galaxy S2. No regrets so far.
Aren't there the LG phones … Optimus 3D and another model which has 3D screen, nVIDIA graphics, Dual core processor and a lot of RAM ?
CAT-THE-FIFTH
An i7 5000?? You mean a Xeon??
No, I didn't mean it literally. Its a way of saying… If I now buy an i7 5000 (which wont come out in 2 yrs. time but lets say Intel offered a rare one) will be cheaper than this.
Where is this poll then?
If here, then no, I don't want a smartphone. If I did it would be this one, but I don't.
iPhone 4S? Nope.
I voted “none of the above”.
I thought about “Never had a smartphone, never will”, but while right now that's how I feel, it's ‘cos I’ve got no need for one. If that changes, so will that decision.
If I were to buy a smartphone, it'd probably be some variant of android, but right now, even that's not on.
bobharvey
Where is this poll then?
If here, then no, I don't want a smartphone. If I did it would be this one, but I don't.
I second this, where's the poll at?
Three have a good deal on. The 16GB iPhone 4S is £99 on The One Plan @ £35/month for 2 years. Quidco cashback… £109! Pretty awesome considering the tariff.
Hoonigan
There's a lot of people in here saying that the SGS2 is better than the iPhone 4S, but no-one's justifying that statement.
In what way is it actually better?
In my opinion, the price of the 4S is justified by the inclusion of iOS, the rock solid stability of the OS (had my iPhone 4 a year today and only experienced one crash) and the fact that the phone isn't some way to being a small laptop..
IPHONE 4S
£499
Dual core 1GHz
512MB RAM
LED capa touchscreen
640X960
8MP camera with LED flash + Front VGA camera
16/32/64GB built-in
140g
GALAXY S2
£350
Dual Core 1.2GHz
1GB RAM
SUPER AMOLED screen
480 x 800
8MP LED camera + 2MP camera
16/32gb built-in
116g
On top of this, with Galaxy S2, you don't have to be tied into 2 year contracts!
Btw, seems not everyone can vote on poll?
Yeah, maybe it's mods only :p
As for the thread, no, I won't be. But then I've never bought anything made by Apple, so I'm hardly about to start now. I suspect this poll won't be particularly representative of the general populace…
Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll
Bit harsh? ;)
Hmm, strange, no idea why not
I cant vote - seems like maybe because i've already posted in this thread???
As for costs….
I went on in to Orange showroom with various catalogues from O2, Carphone warehouse with numbers written all over them (all classic technique BTW if you want to make salesmen sweat).
I walked out with my Galaxy S2, with £150 paid up front, and a £19.50 per month deal as follows:
Downloading email (inc all content irrespective of file size) free
200 minutes
some text (cant remember)
750 MB per month data
On their ‘panther’ scheme.
Usually £26 per month, but they were keen to sign me up and gave a 25% PERK discount so you can ask for this too.
Over 2 years, this makes
£19.50 x 24 = £468
Handset = £150
Total = £618.
Similar package for an iphone 4s over 2 years? About £1500….
OilSheikh
IPHONE 4S
£499
Do people really pay this much for a phone? Insane.
No, cos there are many cheaper AND better Android phones ;)
Saracen
iPhone 4S? Nope.
I voted “none of the above”.
I thought about “Never had a smartphone, never will”, but while right now that's how I feel, it's ‘cos I’ve got no need for one. If that changes, so will that decision.
If I were to buy a smartphone, it'd probably be some variant of android, but right now, even that's not on.
Im on the same page as you!
I still own the Nokia 6300 and its going strong…also with its 2458 text msgs sitting neatly in…the abyss somewhere!
I can't vote either? As for my answer, not worth the upgrade from my iPhone 4 :)
As for comparing specs, it's irrelevant no? Seeing as they run a different OS, different apps/etc whats the point? Up until recently the iPad was still a far better experience than most if not all other talets and it had lower specs.
No from me. I love my Desire HD apart from the camera.
MSIC
I cant vote - seems like maybe because i've already posted in this thread???
As for costs….
I went on in to Orange showroom with various catalogues from O2, Carphone warehouse with numbers written all over them (all classic technique BTW if you want to make salesmen sweat).
I walked out with my Galaxy S2, with £150 paid up front, and a £19.50 per month deal as follows:
Downloading email (inc all content irrespective of file size) free
200 minutes
some text (cant remember)
750 MB per month data
On their ‘panther’ scheme.
Usually £26 per month, but they were keen to sign me up and gave a 25% PERK discount so you can ask for this too.
Over 2 years, this makes
£19.50 x 24 = £468
Handset = £150
Total = £618.
Similar package for an iphone 4s over 2 years? About £1500….
That is a sweet deal but not enuf mins. You could have bought the S2 for £350 and went onto use one of TalkMobile's £8 tariffs ( uses Vodafone network )
http://www.talkmobile.co.uk/simple.html
Only 3 months in on my iPhone 4 contract so not for a while yet and I'm sure there will be better alternatives by then.
Personally, all the specs aside I am starting to look at iphones and find them really ugly and boring to look at.
All that bezel at the top and bottom, it just looks really dated compared to the sensations and SG2's of the world.
i am gonna be replacing my sensation due to some problems with it, it definatley won't be replaced by any kind of iphone. Xperia arc or the new nexus looking interesting for me. Once you have been on a 4.3inch screen those measly 3.7 iphones look pants!
Tarinder
Have pored over the technical advances in the 4S and realising that it's undeniably a very capable handset, irrespective of whether it's called a ‘5’ or not, I'm tempted to throw lots of pennies at the fruit company.
3.5“ screen is no good for a modern smart phone, once you've had a screen over 4”, you'd never consider anything smaller. HTC going the right way with the Titan.
Also Apple's pricing is going to start putting people off considering now the competition is better/on par and cheaper.
Anyhow, big NO for me.
Is there any reason why several of us can't vote in the poll? It's looking very empty considering the popularity of this thread.
Any of the mods/admins know what's going on?
No.
It doesn't look any better than my newly purchased SG2, and there'd be no way on this earth I could get one for the 15 quid a month I'm paying for my Samsung.
So more expensive and worse… yeah, think I'll give it a miss thanks :)
Would of chosen “None of the above” had I been allowed to vote.
I have an Android device at present but that doesn't dictate what I'll buy next - I haven't invested much into their ecosystem to have built up any loyalty. I'll switch if my requirements are better met elsewhere but as yet, I've no need to.
No.
Simple answer. There you go. Gonna stick with my desire until contract expires, then go for an HTC Titan or whatever is equivalent in April next year.
Though I must admit I'm looking forward to iOS 5 on my iPad 2, and if iCloud and calendar sync, lists, etc, work well, I MIGHT be tempted to wait for the iPhone 5.
I have not previously had an iPhone. From having played with a selection of friends' phones, I actually prefer the 3g to the 4…
****ing **** O2. found out they wont do pre orders for this and you gotta que up next friday to get it. what a load of farse when Vodafone and others are taking pre orders. bloody marvellous. Trying to persuade my wife to tell O2 to stick it and for her to move to another network.
Not allowed to vote! What?
blueball
Not allowed to vote! What?
Issue with the Poll, so discuss.
Nope, dull phone, dull launch. It's 6 months too late. God help the suckers who get talked into a 24 month contract at stupid pounds per month…
OilSheikh
GALAXY S2
£350
Dual Core 1.2GHz
1GB RAM
SUPER AMOLED screen
480 x 800
8MP LED camera + 2MP camera
16/32gb built-in
116g
Where can you buy the S2 for £350?
Shooty*;2140829
From having played with a selection of friends' phones, I actually prefer the 3g to the 4…
With due respect, are you a mental? ;)
My wife has a 3G, had to bump it down to 3.summat as the newer OS updates bog it down badly, using it now compared to my 4 ishows you how slow it is in comparison, I also prefer the look of the 4 but of course that last one is just personal opinion unlike the speed comparison :)
Not an Apple fan, too restrictive. I get very little actual use out of my current smartphone, N97 Mini, screen is just too small to read and its not really that great a phone (big step up from SE T610 tho). It's extremely good for texting and making calls tho :P
I will be looking at Android phones when upgrade time comes.
(also can't vote btw, someone broke Hexus :( )
Certainly wont be getting an iPhone 4S, dont use my iPhone 4 and prefer all my android phones above the iPhone. The iPhone just doesn't offer enough for the money demanded.
Steve
No. I will get another Android phone… in February when my contract is up… because I use google for my calendars, and run Linux on my PCs :)
Ditto for me (except July for my end date) although WinMo looks good too. Don't like the 4 family look, plus there's quite a few technically better 'droid phones available on cheaper price plans, (
although in the 4S's defence it would seem that a lot of the iPhone contracts include teathering, whereas the ‘droid ones don’t - dumb!).
NO particular reason to buy one. If it were dual- or triple- sim I might be more interested.
I gave in an pre ordered mine on Friday night. I looked into the Galaxy S2, the forthcoming Nexus andtje HTC Sensation but the more I read the less impressed I became. These phones all have really big screens but the screen resolution is lower than the iPhone Retina display so can't see the point in them. Another factor against them is that despite having quintillion Ghz mega core CPUs, scrolling on the app pages is very jerky compared to my current 3GS something I knew would just get on my nerves after a while.
Anyways I'm looking forward to getting my new phone!
Bluecube
all have really big screens but the screen resolution is lower than the iPhone Retina display so can't see the point in them.
Except the new nexus, which has a higher resolution and a better imho screen technology of AMOLED….. Well thats what the roumers say anyway.
Bluecube
These phones all have really big screens but the screen resolution is lower than the iPhone Retina display so can't see the point in them.
Beginning by disclosing bias, I just got the galaxy s2, and still have my iPhone 3GS.
To answer your point though, resolution is only as good as the eye's ability to resolve detail - I would argue that something with twice the pixel density of Apple's “retina display” would not be twice as good; resolution therefore is only
so useful. In my opinion, there was a definite benefit when screens changed between iPhone 3 and iPhone 4, however i think this current generation is dense enough.
The next benefits however are not about pixel density or resolution, but are about visual improvements as defined by colour & brightness etc, and about power use (ie low power use, low heat generation etc).
When I look at my Samsung, and then glance back at my iPhone, the Apple display looks washed out and dull by comparison (this clearly isn't a fair comparison as they are not the same generation, however they are what I have to hand).
Overall I would ask if any given screen resolution is good
enough rather than better than x, y or z, and then look at what else the screen gives you.
I never read that, however considering the screen is supposed to be 4.7" or thereabouts I would hope so. At what point does a phone cease to be a phone and become a small 3G tablet?
In a word, no.
I've yet to find anything the iPhone offers that an Android alternative doesn't whilst being substantially cheaper.
crossy
Ditto for me (except July for my end date) although WinMo looks good too. Don't like the 4 family look, plus there's quite a few technically better 'droid phones available on cheaper price plans, (although in the 4S's defence it would seem that a lot of the iPhone contracts include teathering, whereas the ‘droid ones don’t - dumb!).
That would be because iOS allows network providers to easily identify tethered traffic, unlike Android. Besides, Three's One Plan includes ‘unlimited’ (rumours put a fair usage policy at 80GB/month) and allows tethering.
miniyazz
That would be because iOS allows network providers to easily identify tethered traffic, unlike Android. Besides, Three's One Plan includes ‘unlimited’ (rumours put a fair usage policy at 80GB/month) and allows tethering.
I wasn't aware that iOS allowed that degree of snooping, interesting to be told - thanks! :thumbsup:
Aware of the tethering clause in The One Plan though - because TOP is about the only reason I can find to stay with Three when renewal time comes up. Not sure that it'd counteract poor coverage, zero technical support, many billing screwups, etc. ;)
no, nokia n9 for me.
p.s. why can i not vote?
Too expensive for no real gain and the hardware itself is waaaay waaay overpriced imo!
I went for the SGSII from a 3Gs, and excellent repesentation of what android can be!
mcmiller
Where can you buy the S2 for £350?
eBay >
SEARCH GALAXY S2 > NEW > BUY IT NOW
crossy
I wasn't aware that iOS allowed that degree of snooping, interesting to be told - thanks! :thumbsup:
Aware of the tethering clause in The One Plan though - because TOP is about the only reason I can find to stay with Three when renewal time comes up. Not sure that it'd counteract poor coverage, zero technical support, many billing screwups, etc. ;)
Likewise, it's the only reason I'd probably stick with them. However, things may change in the next year+..
Yup! iOS routes tethered traffic through a different APN than the 3G one. It is possible to get around it though jailbreaking and using specific tethering apps that use the 3G APN.
Count me as a maybe (though I'm not allowed to vote!)
I currently have a 3GS, and don't really see much reason to change,
apart from the resolution increase for web browsing.
Contract is up next month, so its either a 4S or SG2
I'm leaning a little towards the Sg2 just because it'll let me try out android in anger (and maybe do a bit of dev).
Still haven't fixed the poll, hexus boys and girls. :P
I had a play with a colleagues iPhone 4 the other day and I was surprised at how old fashioned it seemed. The screen is tiny, I don't know how it compares size wise to my desire, but it looks smaller. The iPhone is supposed to be great at web browsing, but I can't understand why on such a small screen. The Desire isn't that great as a browser, simply because of the screen size. The actual capabilities of the built in browser and Opera which I have on there too are astounding, but you do need a larger screen for it to be enjoyable for anything other than a quick look at things.
Funny how your expectations change over time. The iPhone used to have a massive screen :)
O2 recycle will give me £266.50 for my iphone4 16GB, they want £138 pounds as an instant upgrade fee as I am only 16 months into a 24 month contract and as an existing customer I can get a new iphone 4S 16GB on a new 24 month contract for free at a cost of £36 a month:
http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/iphonetariffs/Not sure what to do as this doesn't seem all that bad, i'll end up with a new iphone 4S and £128 in my sky rocket.
Decisions, decisions….
:help:
If your Iphone 4 is in good condition, you can get more for it on eBay than the £266 O2 is offering you!!
Personally, I don't see the 4S much of an upgrade; had an Iphone 4 and now moved to galaxy s2 on Android. Much better phone, interface is better, no restrictions on apps you can install (don't have to be from app store), widgets + FLASH on web browsing!!
Unless your Iphone is jailbroken, you probably can't do most of that.
However, depends on your preferences!
Thanks for the feedback, although I may be able to get more from ebay I would still have to pay fee's to ebay & paypal etc so would prefer to just take a hit by selling it to o2 but get money straight into my account.
I think I might just wait till Wednesday and see how ios5 runs on my 4. I agree that it isn't much of upgrade but I am a sucker for having the latest :(
Although I am by no means an apple fanboy and understand the benefits of android i'm pretty locked into the apple ecosystem ipad2, mrs has an iphone etc
Mark@SCAN;2142129
Although I am by no means an apple fanboy and understand the benefits of android i'm pretty locked into the apple ecosystem ipad2, mrs has an iphone etc
Getting an ipad “unlocked” me from the apple ecosystem
since getting the ipad, I tend to play with apps on that, with the iphone reverting to use mainly as a phone.
It's been this way for a few month's now, i'm guessing you've changed tariff's recently?
sure, but I have to queue for iPhone 4S. It is so hot…. ^^
MMOs^^
kookjobs
sure, but I have to queue for iPhone 4S. It is so hot….
That Hansel so hot right now!
WinPho7 for me, awaiting Nokia's releases.