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Posted by jim - Thu 17 Feb 2011 15:26
Oooh, scary.

Sod off Sony.
Posted by razer121 - Thu 17 Feb 2011 17:30
I lol'd when i read that, i support the ps3 and all CBA with hackers online but screw them telling me what i can and cannot do with my own console.
Posted by jackvdbuk - Thu 17 Feb 2011 18:15
razer121
I lol'd when i read that, i support the ps3 and all CBA with hackers online but screw them telling me what i can and cannot do with my own console.

using cfw to get free games and everyone expects sony to let it go? lol…

same with xbox… nothing new here.
Posted by jackobyte - Thu 17 Feb 2011 19:54
it will never work anyway, as if you have “naughty !” ps3 then you can go out and get another one and register/log on as new user and still have access to network and keep your moded ps3.
all been done with original xbox before, and didn't work for microsoft then either.
Only way to stop it is for Sony to send an Emp signal down the line to your house that would
bug out the Ps3 and everything in your house bar the wifes rabbit !!!!(uses batteries i believe)
Posted by jim - Thu 17 Feb 2011 20:28
jackvdbuk
using cfw to get free games and everyone expects sony to let it go? lol…

same with xbox… nothing new here.

It's just pathetic. I can't bear people trying to instigate punishments in lieu of genuine criminal punishment, because they think the law is insufficient.

My uni does much the same thing and it just smacks of spinelessness.
Posted by OilSheikh - Thu 17 Feb 2011 22:30
I wish there would be a way for Sony to fry a PS3 console belonging to a hacker.
After months of dealing with cheats on MW2, I have no compassion for any hacker.

Btw, what kind of an idiot goes and buys a console and installs Linux? Surely, they can go and buy a PC for Linux and that works out cheaper?
Posted by Spud1 - Thu 17 Feb 2011 23:28
Well, banning PSN access is a good move from Sony. It won't really have a huge effect since forcing people to update their firmware before being able to use PSN really has the same effect (the newer firmware renders the current gen of mod chips useless)..but hey this is a nice extra step.
Posted by Agent - Thu 17 Feb 2011 23:35
OilSheikh
Btw, what kind of an idiot goes and buys a console and installs Linux? Surely, they can go and buy a PC for Linux and that works out cheaper?

The US military.
http://hushedcasket.com/node/2816

There are very good reasons why people might want to put Linux on a PS3 (hint: They make some of the most cost effective distributed computers you can buy for certain tasks), but given that you're willing to dismiss them as ‘idiots’ within 5 words into your sentence, I'm not sure if you were actually looking for a serious answer, or if you're just trolling.

If you're not trolling, then please refrain from calling people idiots, and then proceed to ask what they can be used for. It looks mighty silly mate :)
Posted by Agent - Thu 17 Feb 2011 23:42
Spud1
It won't really have a huge effect since forcing people to update their firmware before being able to use PSN really has the same effect

Already been bypassed.
Posted by finlay666 - Thu 17 Feb 2011 23:49
Agent
There are very good reasons why people might want to put Linux on a PS3 (hint: They make some of the most cost effective distributed computers you can buy for certain tasks)

I thought the Cell cpu used to be very good at doing Folding@Home calculations also?
Posted by jackobyte - Fri 18 Feb 2011 05:27
Agent
The US military.
http://hushedcasket.com/node/2816

There are very good reasons why people might want to put Linux on a PS3 (hint: They make some of the most cost effective distributed computers you can buy for certain tasks), but given that you're willing to dismiss them as ‘idiots’ within 5 words into your sentence, I'm not sure if you were actually looking for a serious answer, or if you're just trolling.

If you're not trolling, then please refrain from calling people idiots, and then proceed to ask what they can be used for. It looks mighty silly mate :)

:secret: also have a gander what these guys are doing using LINUX as well ,hmm not so dumb me thinks more like we are not worthy and wonder if they would give me a lend of their set up :iloveyou:
http://www.reghardware.com/2008/02/28/ps3s_put_to_use_simulating_blackholes/
and if you want further reading just so you can call them idiots as well a google search link to assist, makes interesting reading before some people criticise them off hand
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=ps3+consoles+linked+together+super+computer&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
Posted by Ultima2876 - Fri 18 Feb 2011 06:45
The sensible thing with regards to console with online capabilities has always been to have an unhacked unit for online play and a hacked unit for homebrew/emulators, that never EVER goes online. I don't see why everyone's making such a big deal about it all - this kind of thing was news about 3 years ago with the Xbox 360 so it's not like we're seeing something shocking or surprising…
Posted by razer121 - Fri 18 Feb 2011 09:28
jackobyte
:secret:…..snip….=&oq=

I am impressed!
Posted by Rob_B - Fri 18 Feb 2011 09:53
Well I imagine Sony don't really care about anyone using their subsidised hardware to run Linux (regardless of how life changing it could be) as they don't buy games/add ons so Sony are losing money on them.

That's not to say removing OtherOS was right, hopefully Sony will pay for that in court.

I'm for the banning I'm afraid. I tried to get to a ‘sitting on the fence’ stance but I just can't.

I realise there is a homebrew community, I enjoy tinkering with my gadgets as much as anyone but let's be reasonable. The vast majority of people want to use these ‘hacks’ purely to play games they do not own & have downloaded. I don't see how anyone can truthfully say that isn't true.

It's not to say I forget the ‘needs’ of the legit homebrew community but you agreeed to Sony's terms, a PS3 is a luxury not a right, if you break said rules (regardless of whether you agree with them) then tough, go find some other hardware that lets you do what you want, take your money elsewhere & never buy another Sony product, that's consumer choice. They don't brick your PS3 they remove online access to Sony services that you have to abide by certain rules to access.

I do really want to be against Sony as removing OtherOS (although not affecting me nor the majority of users) was shocking, I can't believe they think they can get away with it. But I just can't unless someone offers a better, more reasonable thing Sony could/should have done under the circumstances (bearing in mind corporate/shareholder needs etc)
Posted by kalniel - Fri 18 Feb 2011 10:06
razer121
I lol'd when i read that, i support the ps3 and all CBA with hackers online but screw them telling me what i can and cannot do with my own console.

They're not. But they are saying that if you want to use their services (PSN) then you have to abide by their service agreement. Just like you abide by Hexus' rules when using Hexus' services.
Posted by Agent - Fri 18 Feb 2011 16:57
I'm really surprised that people are failing to realise how bad this entire situation is.
Not only was the PS3 based on shoddy security, the entire PSN is built on a soddy system too

http://www.psnathome.com/general/ps3-hackers-can-now-ban-legitimate-users-and-unban-consoles.html

Yes, you can be banned for doing nothing. With the keys to the PS3, you can alter the traffic sent to PSN, including intentionally ‘turning on’ the correct flags to get banned from PSN. Tie this with being able to change your console ID and you can ban anyone's system, even if doing nothing.

Sony are making this bad situation much worse, as expected.
Posted by oolon - Fri 18 Feb 2011 17:35
OilSheikh
Btw, what kind of an idiot goes and buys a console and installs Linux? Surely, they can go and buy a PC for Linux and that works out cheaper?

I don't know …. the US Air Force perhaps?

Posted by Ultima2876 - Fri 18 Feb 2011 17:59
I bet they were gutted when they updated their firmware and all they could do with all those PS3's was have a marathon Gran Turismo gaming session…
Posted by finlay666 - Fri 18 Feb 2011 22:04
Ultima2876
I bet they were gutted when they updated their firmware and all they could do with all those PS3's was have a marathon Gran Turismo gaming session…

I doubt they have any network access, and even if they did I reckon Sony wouldn't be allowed near the consoles
Posted by Ultima2876 - Sat 19 Feb 2011 07:14
Most probably true. Still hilarious to imagine though - and I'm sure someone, somewhere, probably a university student, was screwed over in much the same fashion.