Fantastic looking card! This is the first card since the 8800GT that might actually lure me back to the dark side! £200 on launch is very promising, planning a build for April, hopefully it'll have dropped to the £180 mark by then. Even better, perhaps AMD will slash the price of the 6950 which has been creeping up of late.
Nobull
Fantastic looking card! This is the first card since the 8800GT that might actually lure me back to the dark side! £200 on launch is very promising, planning a build for April, hopefully it'll have dropped to the £180 mark by then. Even better, perhaps AMD will slash the price of the 6950 which has been creeping up of late.
The HD6950 1GB has been released already.
It trades blows with the GTX560 1GB:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-upsetting-the-250-market/7In Metro2033 which is an Nvidia sponsered game the HD6950 1GB destroys the GTX560 1GB.
Any ideas on pricing for the 6950 1GB? Really could do with a vicious price war. havn't seen one between the red and the green team in ages!
Nobull
Any ideas on pricing for the 6950 1GB? Really could do with a vicious price war. havn't seen one between the red and the green team in ages!
AFAIK,the GTX560TI and HD6950 1GB should be around the same price.
CAT-THE-FIFTH
AFAIK,the GTX560TI and HD6950 1GB should be around the same price.
Just as I suspected. Hope one of them jumps the gun and tries to undercut the other. Should be a fun few weeks in the GPU market. Can't wait for april!
Amazing little card Nvidia now lead in all areas Budget, Medium and High End
pirce war ftw? anyone expect GTX560/6870/6950s for under 160 quid in a couple months?
So tempted to upgrade from my 9800GTX+…
Nice card.
Could someone tell me why, given the system load numbers, I should be buying a 700w PSU?
Rather like the look of teaming this with Silverstone SFF 450W PSU the small factor PSU gives me more room for a water cooled system
Taurus
Amazing little card Nvidia now lead in all areas Budget, Medium and High End
Rollo, is that you?
How does this lead the 6950 1gb, and what nVidia card leads the 5970?
Taurus
Amazing little card Nvidia now lead in all areas Budget, Medium and High End
Not really.
At £100 and below AMD destroys everything Nvidia has. The GTS450 can barely match an HD5750 and does so with a much bigger GPU.
At below £150,the HD6850 1GB is faster than the GTX460 768MB and matches the GTX460 1GB. The HD6870 1GB can only be matched by massively overclocked GTX460 cards.
Even the HD6850 1GB can reach 1GHZ+ clockspeeds for the GPU.
However,the GTX460 uses a 330MM2+ GPU whereas the HD6850 and HD6870 use a 255MM2 GPU.
The GTX560 has a slightly smaller GPU than an HD6950 and yet at stock clockspeeds is not faster in many cases. However,the HD6970 which has the same GPU as the HD6950 is faster overall than a GTX560 unless the latter is massively overclocked.
However,the GTX570 is 520MM2 when compared to the 389MM2 GPU the HD6970 has.
all good for us consumers!
YAY! Let the Price War begin! :)
Getting one of these soon!
Terbinator
'Destroys' ? Like Dirt 2, the AMD game you mean, except theres 10FPS in favour of Nvidia.
OTOH, MSI 560 for £203 on Scan…
Metro2033 was used an example by Nvidia to show that AMD graphics cards were much weaker than their Nvidia counterparts.
It is one of the most graphically demanding games out there and is a sign of what future games will be like.
DiRT is playable on both cards with decent framerates.
OTH,Metro2033 runs better on a HD6950 1GB.
I'm still not seeing this destroying, though, as even 35FPS wouldn't qualify as playable to most.
Why are there no 1GB 6950's anywhere as well? O.o
Terbinator
I'm still not seeing this destroying, though, as even 35FPS wouldn't qualify as playable to most.
Why are there no 1GB 6950's anywhere as well? O.o
The GTX560 1GB is dipping below 30FPS over most of the PC Perspective time course whereas the HD6950 1GB does not.
Pixmania seem to be selling the HD6950 1GB (instant fail though).
In the US there seems to be quite a few on Newegg supposedly.
It beat the 5870? Well done nVidia!
Why…at all would anybody buy this instead of a 6950 and unlock it to a 6970?
Well done Hexus on dissecting the heat sink, ie opening it up to look inside not just taking it off, something we've asked for before on new cards.
One thing I'm a little disappointed at is that while you correctly mentioned that many of the gtx460 cards can go far higher you didn't compare one of the higher clocked gtx460 vs the gtx560
I'm interested to see how much actual performance the extra shaders bring and how much of the performance is down to higher clocks?
Pob255
Well done Hexus on dissecting the heat sink, ie opening it up to look inside not just taking it off, something we've asked for before on new cards.
One thing I'm a little disappointed at is that while you correctly mentioned that many of the gtx460 cards can go far higher you didn't compare one of the higher clocked gtx460 vs the gtx560
I'm interested to see how much actual performance the extra shaders bring and how much of the performance is down to higher clocks?
Massively overclocked 460's only get compared vs Radeons.
The answer to your question would be “not a lot faster than equally clocked 460”.
We have no problem in comparing a massively clocked GTX 460 against a GTX 560, though we're sure a number of readers would cry foul of us including a non-reference card in a review that takes in a new architecture.
Got no problem in pitting one in an upcoming GTX 560 review of a retail card, however. :)
Oh, and anyone wondering why there's no Radeon HD 6950 1GB card in this review should be made aware that AMD didn't sample any UK press (as far as I can tell) with it. Rather, they had little idea that it was being pushed to US press to include in their GTX 560 reviews.
We'd much rather have had it in the reviews, by the way.
hmmm how does a pair of gtx 460`s (768) in sli stack up? and a personal request - i have an asus gtx460 oc would like to see how mine (or similar) at 800.3800 (or so) compares :D
I see that the 560 has 2x DL-DVI + mini HDMI – does anyone know if all three of these outputs can be used simultaneously (I'm guessing not)?
I am looking to replace my 4890 with something cooler, quieter and more power efficient and I would really like the option of running a third screen off it – probably to connect a HDTV via HDMI. I was looking at a 6950 and going DisplayPort > DVI or DisplayPort > HDMI for my third screen, but the 6950 is a big bugger and with all six of my HDD bays in use space in my case is a bit short. The other option is a 6870, but that doesn't seem like enough of a performance step-up from the 4890 to warrant spending £200.
Hmmm….
Tarinder
Oh, and anyone wondering why there's no Radeon HD 6950 1GB card in this review should be made aware that AMD didn't sample any UK press (as far as I can tell) with it. Rather, they had little idea that it was being pushed to US press to include in their GTX 560 reviews.
We'd much rather have had it in the reviews, by the way.
Yep, I figured this was the case, it seems to have been a very urgent reaction from AMD.
going to be building myself a new PC so which card is the best to go for under £200?
slypie
going to be building myself a new PC so which card is the best to go for under £200?
a 6850, but given your budget is £200 I'm guessing, go for the MSI GTX560 at £203.