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Posted by Jedibeeftrix - Mon 27 Sep 2010 15:41
It is the 1045T i really want to see released, six core for ~£120 is going to be a bargain, especially with a turbo that will take three cores to 3.2GHz.
Posted by BullDogg - Mon 27 Sep 2010 15:43
Jedibeeftrix
It is the 1045T i really want to see released, six core for ~£120 is going to be a bargain, especially with a turbo that will take three cores to 3.2GHz.

Not to mention some pretty good overclocking headroom.
Posted by badass - Mon 27 Sep 2010 18:34
I wish AMD would apply what they've learnt in Thuban and apply it to Deneb.
If tehy can make a 95w 6 core at 2.9 GHz - 3.4 GHz with 3 cores flat out then hopefully they can do a 65w quad core that can do 3.4 GHz with only 2 cores active.

However I suspect this isn't in their interests currently :(

Still, Fingers X'd. Maybe AMD will be able to use clock speed to get their single threaded performance up to Nehalem levels.
Posted by scaryjim - Tue 28 Sep 2010 16:06
badass
However I suspect this isn't in their interests currently :(

I suspect the issue is more that they'd have to tape out a new die to make the necessary amendments to a native quad core, and that bulldozer / bobcat / whatever are close enough to production yields that it's not worth pushing out a tweaked Deneb core in between.

One thing we can probably assume, however, since the 9x0T variants never made it to market, is that they're yielding well enough to sell all of the Thuban dies as hexacore processors. Bottom line seems to be that they're going to line up slower hexcores against the existing quad cores and ask people to choose either cores or clockspeed. For my money the hexes are the ones to go for: particularly if they undervolt well (could get a 70Wish hex for your money at 1.05V) or overclock well (you could probably get a 3.4GHz hex for less money than a 965BE….).
Posted by badass - Tue 28 Sep 2010 18:23
scaryjim
I suspect the issue is more that they'd have to tape out a new die to make the necessary amendments to a native quad core, and that bulldozer / bobcat / whatever are close enough to production yields that it's not worth pushing out a tweaked Deneb core in between.

IIRC the bulldozer CPU's won't work in an AM3 socket, however AM3 CPU's will work in the AM3+ socket that bulldozer needs. This makes little to no odds to AMD, however for those of us with AM3 motherboards it's a bit unfortunate. A nice Quad core with Turbocore would have made up for that though.