surprisingly, they've gone at it with such amazing arrogance.
What amuses me is how they completely fail to acknowledge any fault of the external antenna, yet they do acknowledge touching it changes the resonant frequency. So they recommend coating it in plastic, which fixes the problem. You mean like every other mobile phone manufacturer already has. They have all coated theirs with the phones body plastic.
Yet they then go on to claim those coated ones have an issue.
Muppets.
They are in a position to be arrogant though. And regardless of this debacle many consumers will gloss over it just like Steve did. Thats the joys of fanboys. Obviously nothing can ever be apples fault! It must be something else. Even more people will go out and buy the iphone 5 im sure.
hexus
Jobs opened with an extended diatribe on how this isn't really an issue anyway, but that the iPhone's competitors also struggle with this issue, that isn't.
Is this a typo, or am I not understanding the sentance on the 1st page? I can't get my head round it - but I can work out what you are trying to say.
Does it make more sense without the last comma? Jobs opened with an extended diatribe on how this isn't really an issue anyway, but that the iPhone's competitors also struggle with this issue that isn't.
Just trying to highlight the contradiction of belittling an issue, then saying everyone has it. Although perhaps Apple thinks that pointing out everyone has it does belittle it.
The wait is over!
Apple are proud to annouce the iPhone 5…
Now featuring a retractable aerial to give you the best ever reception!
Nice of apple to bite the hand that feeds them. This may encourage the major online tech sites to have a more negative view on new Apple products.
Ah I get you now…
The issue that isn't an issue. (would make a good header for the paragraph)
Jobs opened with an extended diatribe on how this isn't really an issue anyway, but that the iPhone's competitors also struggle with this issue, that according to Jobs isn't really an issue anyway… (rinse and repeat) Understandably, they weren't too pleased at being dragged into this affair, and many have commented subsequently…
Although my version ^ could definitely be tidied up… and seems to go on and on.
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It's not an issue for the competitors because they don't employ the same design as Apple's iPhone4 - it appears the competitors to Apple deliberately avoided this issue because they knew it would be an issue :)
joshwa
It's not an issue for the competitors because they don't employ the same design as Apple's iPhone4 - it appears the competitors to Apple deliberately avoided this issue because they knew it would be an issue :)
But it isn't an issue, don't you get that? The iPhone doesn't have an issue, it's just the same as every other smartphone that has an issue. It's just not a problem, no more of a problem than any other smartphone manufacturer doesn't have to deal with anyway.
:help:
(brain may be dribbling from ear now)
Scott B;1953447
Does it make more sense without the last comma? Jobs opened with an extended diatribe on how this isn't really an issue anyway, but that the iPhone's competitors also struggle with this issue that isn't.
Just trying to highlight the contradiction of belittling an issue, then saying everyone has it. Although perhaps Apple thinks that pointing out everyone has it does belittle it.
Made more sense to me without that last comma.
All this will do it make sure that manufacturers such as RIM, Nokia et al will push their designs as not having problems like Apple's…
As said in the article, he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword…
stewis
This may encourage the major online tech sites to have a more negative view on new Apple products.
I would hope that the major online tech site would have an objective view of
anybody's products. If not then they're just another partizan blog, surely? I trust you are not supporting bias or censorship in reporting…
superscaper
Made more sense to me without that last comma.
Comma removed :rockon:
I have never had a reception issue with any previous phone I've ever held in my hand. My X10 works lovely in both hands and while I know it has issues at least SE aren't blaming it on everyone but themselves. Its this sort of arrogance that so annoys me with apple, their products and their fanboys.
It's not an “issue”, it's an “opportunity”… ;)
hermano pequeño;1953524
….. in case they want to use their iPhone as a telephone once in a while.
….
:eek:
What a novel idea. ;)
:D
You should read this:
The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs. :laugh:
We call it “clouding.” Right now, for example, we’ve sent out the following messages about iPhone 4 and the antenna issues:
1. All mobile phones have this problem.
2. Our mobile phone does not have this problem.
You see how this works? These two statements cannot both be true.
Yet we’ve said both of them. And now you don’t know what to believe.
Ask any psychologist what happens to people when they get confused. Their heart rate goes up. Their skin temperature rises. Adrenaline starts to flow.
They feel desperate, and scared, as if they’ve fallen out of a boat and now they’re getting tossed by waves and they’re maybe going to drown.
Now all you have to do is reach out with some kind of certainty, and no matter how obviously untrue it might be, people will latch onto it.
Every religion in the world knows this, from the Catholics to the Scientologists. It’s the oldest trick in the book. You create some uncertainty, you put people at risk — you tell them they’re going to hell, or whatever — and then you hold out the answer.
No matter how ridiculous your answer may be — like, the one about the galactic ruler Xenu, or the one where God turns into a bird and flies down to earth and impregnates a virgin — people will accept it.
Not only that, they’ll actually thank you for feeding them this horse****. Because any certainty, no matter how crazy, is better than uncertainty.
So he has the sword which can piece any armour and the shield which no sword can piece…
Loved the video where he removed 2 fingers to sort the problem.
Worth noting the usual tamed press have forgiven all sins:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10665424they make it sound like its not a massive flaw to put a bloody antenna on the outside, where it will be touched. FFS beeb.
TheAnimus
Worth noting the usual tamed press have forgiven all sins:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10665424
they make it sound like its not a massive flaw to put a bloody antenna on the outside, where it will be touched. FFS beeb.
Your attempts to whip up hysteria when only a minuscule proportion of iP4 buyers have actually complained aren't exactly much better. Finding balanced coverage of anything related to Apple is practically impossible. They're so divisive, like Marmite.
Mattus
Your attempts to whip up hysteria when only a minuscule proportion of iP4 buyers have actually complained aren't exactly much better. Finding balanced coverage of anything related to Apple is practically impossible. They're so divisive, like Marmite.
I don't think he is trying to whip up anything. TheAnimus actually bought and returned an iphone 4 so I think he is just voicing his opinion, however it just happens to be an informed one unlike many.
what really annoys the most me to be honest is the mess they have made of ios4 for the 3g, its complete crap. i see hardly any benefits and yet my phone is so sloooow, really bugs the hell out of m - I loved the 3g and i was contemplating getting this one but now seeing the general arrogance and 3.0 for android just around the corner i might move to that.
Mattus
Your attempts to whip up hysteria when only a minuscule proportion of iP4 buyers have actually complained aren't exactly much better. Finding balanced coverage of anything related to Apple is practically impossible. They're so divisive, like Marmite.
oolon
I don't think he is trying to whip up anything. TheAnimus actually bought and returned an iphone 4 so I think he is just voicing his opinion, however it just happens to be an informed one unlike many.
That really.
I bought one on launch day (a mate actually queued up!), and returned it the following Monday. Biggest piece of crap of a phone I've ever owned.
Best mobile gaming platform on a phone I've ever owned.
But even navigating the store was a pain in the arse.
Not what pissed me off about the beeb link, is they did nothing other than quote jobs verbatim, taking him at his word, even thou its directly contradictory.
So a piece of plastic fixes this antenna problem (makes sense, insulates it from contact with flesh).
But all other phones, which already have this peice of plastic suffer the problem.
Wait a second, how can that fix it for the iphone, yet phones which are
properly designed from inception don't need it…..
My bull**** meter reads 11.
mcmiller
what really annoys the most me to be honest is the mess they have made of ios4 for the 3g, its complete crap. i see hardly any benefits and yet my phone is so sloooow, really bugs the hell out of m - I loved the 3g and i was contemplating getting this one but now seeing the general arrogance and 3.0 for android just around the corner i might move to that.
Yep, lots of report of the iPhone 3G stuffing up because of the update.
Don't bother getting a proper response from Steve Job, he will just tell you to buy the new iPhone, you noob.
TheAnimus
That really.
I bought one on launch day (a mate actually queued up!), and returned it the following Monday. Biggest piece of crap of a phone I've ever owned.
Best mobile gaming platform on a phone I've ever owned.
But even navigating the store was a pain in the arse.
Not what pissed me off about the beeb link, is they did nothing other than quote jobs verbatim, taking him at his word, even thou its directly contradictory.
So a piece of plastic fixes this antenna problem (makes sense, insulates it from contact with flesh).
But all other phones, which already have this peice of plastic suffer the problem.
Wait a second, how can that fix it for the iphone, yet phones which are properly designed from inception don't need it…..
My bull**** meter reads 11.
Yep, that's why there is rubber on the sides of my Blackberry.
The whole Apple conference was so full of crap that it's amazing it didn't stink. But at least Apple customers gets a free Apple rubber band now rather than having to keep getting the response "there is no
<*** Oi, language! Read the rules. *** > problem with your phone!"
“Mr Jobs said the design of the iPhone 4, with a gap separating two sections of antenna, might have contributed to the problems as it perhaps subliminally encouraged people to touch that spot.”
RDF is On.
Probably joining this a little late - been on holiday so only just catching up on the news, but if you look at the page apple put up with all the comparison shots - look how hard they have to press the phone in to cause a signal drop…
when do you ever get a finger impression like that without squeezing the absolute nuts off something? which i dont believe you have to do to cause an issue with the iphone…
