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Posted by Georgy291 - Tue 01 Dec 2009 11:43
so basically they are going to introduce whats avalible on google in to 360?
Posted by mehmeh - Tue 01 Dec 2009 13:15
Our pessimitc side just makes us think that it wouldl be abused by unscrupolous gamers showing off glitches and ways to cheat. Would you use it?
Never really understood why people frown upon exploiting glitches/bugs.. Your just better at getting the game to do what you want than them. Nothing to stop them learning or taking it up with the developers. Just easier to label you lame and a cheat so they can aviod facing upto their own gaming inadequcies…
Posted by .havoc - Tue 01 Dec 2009 13:59
mehmeh
Never really understood why people frown upon exploiting glitches/bugs.. Your just better at getting the game to do what you want than them. Nothing to stop them learning or taking it up with the developers. Just easier to label you lame and a cheat so they can aviod facing upto their own gaming inadequcies…

Exploiting a bug or a glitch isn't so much of a cheat in my eyes depending on its usage. If you just using it to gain a small leverage but just as vulnerable then fine - i dont mind the competition…but if it puts you in a situation where you cant be killed/seen/injured then yes sorry it is cheating and the only reason you are doing it is because you are the one that suffers from the lack of talent (not directing that at YOU - but in general to anyone who does it…unless you do it…and therefore is directed at you).

You can't justify what you have said in any way - if you are “just better” then you wouldn't need to exploit the game in the first place. And every cheat I have seen who have owned up to it (kudos) and turned off their hacks/stopped glitching became the worst player on the server.

However I am the type of gamer that can sit down and say there are better gamers out there than me, i enjoy it regardless. It's not so much frowned upon with me - I just find it pathetic, since its the only way they can make their e-penis bigger! But that's just my opinion…

On topic…what's the point? What can they offer that the internet can't? (as already mentioned with google…)
Posted by jim - Tue 01 Dec 2009 14:49
mehmeh
Never really understood why people frown upon exploiting glitches/bugs.. Your just better at getting the game to do what you want than them. Nothing to stop them learning or taking it up with the developers. Just easier to label you lame and a cheat so they can aviod facing upto their own gaming inadequcies…

Well, it's all to do with the difference between single player and multi player in my eyes.

There was nothing more frustrating in BF2 than someone jumping into a wall and then shooting everybody through it, because bullets could only pass out of the wall - not into it.
Posted by kalniel - Tue 01 Dec 2009 15:19
mehmeh
Never really understood why people frown upon exploiting glitches/bugs.. Your just better at getting the game to do what you want than them.
Presumably when you play a game that has things like walls and other obstacles part of the reason you play it is because you take enjoyment out of skillfully using them to your advantage. It's part of the gameplay, in other words, or you'd just be playing BZflags.

Other people coming into the game have an expectation that everyone is also playing the game for these same reasons, or they'd also be playing BZflags.

Then you get someone coming along who basically finds they are so bad at the game that they can't play it when on vaguely equal footing with other players, so they only get enjoyment if they hold an unfair advantage. These same people wouldn't enjoy obstacle-less BZflags because things would be equal. They also wouldn't enjoy it if everyone else used the same exploits, because again things would be equal.

If you believe that people should have an equal chance at playing, then you might as well prevent glitches etc. - because then people who want to play without obstacles can play BZflags, and those who want to play with can play COD or whatever. IE, you make the game match what the developers wanted to achieve, and the reasons people bought the game in the first place.
Posted by sleepyhead - Tue 01 Dec 2009 22:31
I can see it now…hordes of xbox360 players glitching their way in Gears of War 2 flying outside the map shooting in…eventually all fights take place beyond the normal gaming realms.
Posted by .havoc - Wed 02 Dec 2009 09:01
sleepyhead
I can see it now…hordes of xbox360 players glitching their way in Gears of War 2 flying outside the map shooting in…eventually all fights take place beyond the normal gaming realms.

Sounds quite fun that….