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Posted by kalniel - Wed 10 Jun 2009 14:57
This is what happens when you use a critical windows update to turn your internet browser into one that has bling as it's default search engine..
Posted by Arthran - Wed 10 Jun 2009 15:03
aye, Cheating is a good way to give higher market share
Posted by Singh400 - Wed 10 Jun 2009 15:04
kalniel
This is what happens when you use a critical windows update to turn your internet browser into one that has bling as it's default search engine..
Source for that? I updated all my machines at home yesterday (lots of crictal updates) and not one of them changed my default search providers.
Posted by Stringent - Wed 10 Jun 2009 15:06
Chandler?
Posted by kalniel - Wed 10 Jun 2009 15:18
Singh400
Source for that? I updated all my machines at home yesterday (lots of crictal updates) and not one of them changed my default search providers.

Presumably you had already set them away from default in IE8 then?

IE8 is a critical windows update. If you install that, then the default search bar provider *was* Live, now it's bing.

And as for it being any good? Well the results are okay, but the presentation of the results is horrible compared to the simple approach of Google.
Posted by finlay666 - Wed 10 Jun 2009 15:41
kalniel
Presumably you had already set them away from default in IE8 then?

IE8 is a critical windows update. If you install that, then the default search bar provider *was* Live, now it's bing.

And as for it being any good? Well the results are okay, but the presentation of the results is horrible compared to the simple approach of Google.

try
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/

and see which is better out of bing/google/yahoo :)
Posted by Singh400 - Wed 10 Jun 2009 15:59
kalniel
Presumably you had already set them away from default in IE8 then?

IE8 is a critical windows update. If you install that, then the default search bar provider *was* Live, now it's bing.
IIRC you are given the optiont to keep or change the search defaults. It's hardly being sneaky if the end user can't be arsed to read what they are installing, if all the do is just click next, next, next and finish. Either way I don't use Live Search, Bing or Yahoo. Just Google.

kalniel
And as for it being any good? Well the results are okay, but the presentation of the results is horrible compared to the simple approach of Google.
Well Blindsearch is proving otherwise. It was created by Michael Kordahi (Microsoft employee).
Posted by kalniel - Wed 10 Jun 2009 16:08
Singh400
IIRC you are given the optiont to keep or change the search defaults. It's hardly being sneaky if the end user can't be arsed to read what they are installing, if all the do is just click next, next, next and finish. Either way I don't use Live Search, Bing or Yahoo. Just Google.
I didn't say anything about it being sneaky, just that it would lead to a higher market share.

Singh400
kalniel
And as for it being any good? Well the results are okay, but the presentation of the results is horrible compared to the simple approach of Google.

Well Blindsearch is proving otherwise. It was created by Michael Kordahi (Microsoft employee).
How is striping the presentation of the results doing anything to prove against my assertion that the presentation of results is horrible? :confused:
Posted by OilSheikh - Thu 11 Jun 2009 10:13
What a crap name - Bing! Sounds like Bling!

And how is this a new search engine. It's just a rebranded Live Search?
Posted by cheesemp - Thu 11 Jun 2009 12:51
OilSheikh
What a crap name - Bing! Sounds like Bling!

And how is this a new search engine. It's just a rebranded Live Search?

Yes - just with a bit of extra b(l)ing!
Posted by Stringent - Thu 11 Jun 2009 15:02
On our School Grid For Learning:

Within the past few days Microsoft have made a significant change to their Internet Explorer web browser and this change has been automatically applied wherever schools are configured to accept Microsoft updates online.

Microsoft Internet Explorer (version 7 and above we believe) has had its default search engine changed to a service called Bing. We are urgently reviewing Bing from an eSafety perspective but immediate testing has shown that image searching with Bing is unsafe. In particular users are simply asked to agree that they are over 18 years of age before inappropriate material is displayed. We are therefore currently denying Bing through the WF2 and WF3 web filtering policies.

In the meantime Bing will remain denied under WF2 and WF3. This is a particular problem where users enter an incomplete URL (web address) into the address bar of Microsoft Internet Explorer. For example if the term “BBC” is entered this is not a complete address so the browser initiates a search but that search now defaults to Bing which is denied under WF2 and WF3. The result is that the “Access Denied” message is displayed rather than the expected BBC website.

This problem can be corrected by manually changing the default search engine configured within Microsoft Internet Explorer. We would recommend that it is changed to Google. This is something that schools will have to undertake through their own ICT technical staff or ICT Support Provider.

I am very sorry for this additional burden upon schools. Microsoft made the change without notice and has applied it to users’ systems apparently without providing an opportunity to decline it.

I hope that we will be able to allow Bing again if it can be made safe but it is currently too early to be sure if that is a real possibility. I will keep you updated through this website and Schools Bulletin.
Posted by Jay - Thu 11 Jun 2009 17:04
I have not had that problem… although we set our home page via GPO
Posted by badass - Thu 11 Jun 2009 18:14
Stringent
On our School Grid For Learning:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=15385

Safesearch can be enforced.
Posted by Tidus - Thu 11 Jun 2009 18:18
I like the Quick View feature on Bing and the categories as they look like good time savers, I didn't get as many results with Bing as Google but I found them more relevant. I'll try using Bing alongside Google from now on and see how well it performs in day to day use rather than a quick test.

The video preview feature was probably my favourite from my quick test of Bing.

Stringent
We are urgently reviewing Bing from an eSafety perspective but immediate testing has shown that image searching with Bing is unsafe. In particular users are simply asked to agree that they are over 18 years of age before inappropriate material is displayed.

Strict search can be enforced by adding &adlt=strict to the end of any search query.