That's not confusing at all…
If the word “New” was a child, I'd be calling protective services on Intel for how much abuse they're giving it.
3dcandy
That's not confusing at all…
Which bit, the differential between the i9 and i7? Seems odd they're all 8/16, I mean they could at least disable the hyperthreading on the i7 so the product stack is actually different in a meaningful way so they don't confuse consumers. Looking at that die space though, if the KF model has no graphics, why don't they make the redundant space more useful and add two more cores in there for 10/20? Instead of wasting silicon on useless graphics most people don't use at that level of CPU.
Iota
Which bit, the differential between the i9 and i7? Seems odd they're all 8/16, I mean they could at least disable the hyperthreading on the i7 so the product stack is actually different in a meaningful way so they don't confuse consumers. Looking at that die space though, if the KF model has no graphics, why don't they make the redundant space more useful and add two more cores in there for 10/20? Instead of wasting silicon on useless graphics most people don't use at that level of CPU.
Plenty - the massive amount of SKU's, the will work on an older motherboard but the best bits need a 500 series motherboard. It's just sooooo reactive and late to the party it's unreal.
I just think it means I'm less likely to go Intel next time not more. Backported process to 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ it's just lazy to me
If you add VAT,that puts the 6C/12T Core i5 11600K at around £205. Even with a £30 CPU cooler,that means its massively cheaper than a Ryzen 5 5600X,and the B560/H570 motherboards also have access to PCI-E 4.0 AFAIK.
The Core i5 11400F works out around £140 and will have a cooler installed. This in theory should be quicker than a Ryzen 5 3600.
CAT-THE-FIFTH
If you add VAT,that puts the 6C/12T Core i5 11600K at around £205. Even with a £30 CPU cooler,that means its massively cheaper than a Ryzen 5 5600X,and the B560/H570 motherboards also have access to PCI-E 4.0 AFAIK.
The Core i5 11400F works out around £140 and will have a cooler installed. This in theory should be quicker than a Ryzen 5 3600.
This. It is nice to see some really heavy competition, at least in pricing. I am very interested to see what happens when reviewers properly have these chips!
Exciting times that we have two big players.
CAT-THE-FIFTH
If you add VAT,that puts the 6C/12T Core i5 11600K at around £205. Even with a £30 CPU cooler,that means its massively cheaper than a Ryzen 5 5600X,and the B560/H570 motherboards also have access to PCI-E 4.0 AFAIK.
The Core i5 11400F works out around £140 and will have a cooler installed. This in theory should be quicker than a Ryzen 5 3600.
I should hope so - Intel have no issues with fab constraints and can afford to absorb some of the higher shipping costs
Not too bad on the pricing, at least they're still pretty competitive up to the 11700k assuming it ends up around £350 after VAT. Near 5800X performance for near 5800X price but with the benefit of AVX-512 if you need it and without the current X570 issues a lot of people (including myself) are experiencing.
3dcandy
Plenty - the massive amount of SKU's, the will work on an older motherboard but the best bits need a 500 series motherboard. It's just sooooo reactive and late to the party it's unreal.
I just think it means I'm less likely to go Intel next time not more. Backported process to 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ it's just lazy to me
If I could currently buy a 5950X and a decent motherboard / RAM I'd probably switch to AMD without even giving these a second thought. The segmentation from Intel is frustrating, as well as the lack of motherboard and chipset compatibility for new processors. Ideally Intel needs to start taking a long look at that last part, because while these may come in “cheaper” than AMD equivalent CPUs, they hurt themselves by not having platform consistency and just being able to drop in an upgrade and use a majority of the features. The only trouble AMD had was switching between PCIe 3.0 to 4.0 afaik? So why can't Intel with all of their resources replicate that?
Also 14nm+++++++++++ really is starting to hurt them.
Prices seem to be largely in line with 10th gen, and with the exception of the very high end, that should be decent value. We still have to wait for more performance results (beyond what Anandtech provided), but it seems from that review that Rocket Lake is a decent upgrade over Comet Lake for at least a few tasks (gaming wasn't one of them), and since it's still cheaper than AMD's lineup, it could be a decent value choice.
CAT-THE-FIFTH
If you add VAT,that puts the 6C/12T Core i5 11600K at around £205.
Scan showing them at £259.99
$539 for an 8-core toaster that can barely match a 5800X? Intel is delusional.
CAT-THE-FIFTH
If you add VAT,that puts the 6C/12T Core i5 11600K at around £205
Pricing on the spec sheet is assuming you're buying from Intel in 1000 unit amounts. They show it to consumers like this to deliberate mislead, and it works.
What I want to know is do the 65W and 35W CPUs actually obey their TDP. The 11700K does not (150W - 290W, depending on the instructions used, according to AnandTech's review). If the lower-wattage parts do stay within their thermal (and thus acoustic) limits, they might be worth something.
In all likelihood I'd still buy AMD… but it would be nice to know Intel's specs mean something on the lower tier parts.
………..11700F is the best thing to come out of intel. I would recommend it everyday.
The non-K pricing on bulldozer lake seems pretty good. If I was in the market, I'd be considering one (so long as I had the budget for a decent cooler)
Tabbykatze
If the word “New” was a child, I'd be calling protective services on Intel for how much abuse they're giving it.
Best post ever.