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Posted by tinsuke - Tue 16 Mar 2021 10:30
This could be nice for the gamer to earn a few bucks back by casually mining.

But, what if a miner operation could, you know, use virtualization, and run various VMs and pass-through one 3060 for each of them?

NVIDIA is not on the gamers' side.
Posted by Dribble - Tue 16 Mar 2021 10:31
Still a massive fail by Nvidia - put all this security in so you can't hack the drivers and remove the limiter, and shoot yourself in the foot by releasing a driver without the limiter in!
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Tue 16 Mar 2021 10:36
tinsuke
But, what if a miner operation could, you know, use virtualization, and run various VMs and pass-through one 3060 for each of them?

Supposedly it detects the card is on a riser (presumably detects only having a x1 PCIe connection) and so would require something like a Threadripper board to get enough PCIe lanes to plug them all in.
Posted by Gentle Viking - Tue 16 Mar 2021 11:00
Hehe yeah they really screwed up on that one, i do wonder why they made a limiter killing driver in the first place when the plan was for these to be limited in regard to mining.
I am thinking they probably made the driver, so it was at hand if they ran into a surplus of these that could not sell to gamers, and so would have to be sold to miners.

Nvidia must be hugely embarrassed.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Tue 16 Mar 2021 11:41
I said this elsewhere, i would not be surprised if Nvidia orchestrated this as they knew the limiter would be cracked and was a way to save face.

It's perfect, say it's “unhackable” then “fumble a blunder” nullifying any claims that someone actually hacked the driver because the limiter removed code was in the wild.

They get off scot free, get all the money, no flashback.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:09
Tabbykatze
They get off scot free, get all the money, no flashback.

If that is what happened then bumbling idiot isn't a good look, though TBF Intel have been shooting themselves in the foot for decades with apparently no ill effect.

From back in my security device designing days I remember right at the top of all the audit paperwork was always the question: “Is there a test mode”. Answering “yes” unlocked a world of pain to prove beyond any doubt that such a mode could in no way ever end up in the wild. I never included a test mode. Ever :)
Posted by ik9000 - Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:41
is it me or is the 470 beta driver removed from the nividia site already?
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Tue 16 Mar 2021 13:55
ik9000
is it me or is the 470 beta driver removed from the nividia site already?

Long gone, but I'm sure it will keep popping up.

OFC it was only a Windows driver, so the question is whether that can be used to get a Linux driver working for mainline mining rigs.


Looks like you also need a monitor plugged in (or a dummy hdmi monitor plug).

from Red Panda Mining: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZjDS-rGjb8
Posted by Tabbykatze - Tue 16 Mar 2021 14:21
DanceswithUnix
If that is what happened then bumbling idiot isn't a good look, though TBF Intel have been shooting themselves in the foot for decades with apparently no ill effect.

Appearing to be bumbling idiot is safer than confirming you are one (if the hackers had cracked it in record time) :P
Posted by ik9000 - Tue 16 Mar 2021 14:55
Tabbykatze
Appearing to be bumbling idiot is safer than confirming you are one (if the hackers had cracked it in record time) :P



I love that the pic is next to the headline on hairdressers
Posted by Tabbykatze - Tue 16 Mar 2021 15:15
ik9000


I love that the pic is next to the headline on hairdressers

I know it's likely not manually set up, but I'd love to think it is :P
Posted by kompukare - Tue 16 Mar 2021 17:11
ik9000
I love that the pic is next to the headline on hairdressers
Yes, but never underestimate the harm a bumbling idiot could do while befuddling everyone with a strange haircut!
Posted by ik9000 - Tue 16 Mar 2021 18:42
kompukare
Yes, but never underestimate the harm a bumbling idiot could do while befuddling everyone with a strange haircut!

bwwwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr errrrr golly, i don't know what you mean, errr bendy buses, let's build HS2 and destroy the countryside. Climate change? What emergency? #notmychild #wellactuallyitmightbe

emply clowns? don't complain when you get a circus
Posted by aniilv - Tue 16 Mar 2021 23:49
well, so much for anyone getting 3060 then :D