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Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Fri 06 Nov 2020 16:35
I am sure many will,but at current pricing unlikely in my case. I might hold out and see what happens next year,but I am pessimistic about it.
Posted by Cinetyk - Fri 06 Nov 2020 16:38
I am not upgrading right now from my 3700X but will in about 2 years with a used Zen 3 CPU. Right now I'm happy with its performance and don't need more for gaming @ 1440p. I bought it 10 months ago, hoping Zen 3 would be great (which it is) and hoping for a great upgrade 2-3 years down the line, getting a used Zen 3 CPU. Looks like everything is lining up and I am grateful for the continued support of the AM4 socket.
Posted by edmundhonda - Fri 06 Nov 2020 16:40
Even with all the noise on price, they're sold out everywhere so the question's a nonstarter.

They look pretty juicy but I'm happy to wait until the new year, see where the price/performance on these and Rocket Lake is at that point.
Posted by Friesiansam - Fri 06 Nov 2020 16:50
Highly unlikely, I am likely to wait for socket AM5, go for a new motherboard and CPU then and leave the way open for a further CPU upgrade, on the same motherboard, a few years later. Added to which, there's nothing wrong with my R7 2700.
Posted by Caimbeul2000 - Fri 06 Nov 2020 16:59
Yes, although i may have to wait for better pricing. I'll pass on my i7 6700K/mobo to my sons rig, to replace the i5 2500K that is still going very strong even in recent games.
Posted by Zhaoman - Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:09
I'll grab one hopefully cheap in a year or maybe two to upgrade my 2600. Long live AM4.
Posted by FRISH - Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:10
I like the improvements they have made, but the cost increase for particularly the 5600X is too much compared to the performance increase and the 12/16 core CPUs aren't really in my budget as a consumer. Plus I got a 3600 last year and I don't see the point in upgrading next generation for anything. I'm also more interested in am5.
Posted by KultiVator - Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:11
I built my system with some future-proofing in mind… e.g. X570 motherboard - so may get tempted. Depends on work situation, less keen on spending out on big-ticket PC components since the pandemic has taken hold.

And my current 3900X isn't exactly a slouch - so it's a tough sell at this exact moment :-|
Posted by lon3wolf2002 - Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:18
If it boosted my FPS drastically at 1440p I would.
Posted by Gentle Viking - Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:22
NO.
When i upgrade again it might be to AMD 6 or 7000 series, for now i am covered, and a Danish pension do not make it possible to upgrade just like you feel like it.
Posted by rabidmunkee - Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:49
nope,
Last upgrade took me 5-10 years to get round to.
Posted by Sparx - Fri 06 Nov 2020 17:52
Yup! Grabbed a 5900X yesterday at 14:06… Didn't ship though, in a pre-order queue ETA 20/11 :(
Posted by syristix - Fri 06 Nov 2020 18:02
yes - My ivylake rig with 1070gtx and ddr3 going to youngest and new 5950x + 6900xt on order.

OFC new stuff round the corner but PCIe4, DDR4 and my first all AMD system for many many years will be a hell of a step up from where I am today.
Posted by pp05 - Fri 06 Nov 2020 18:14
Not at the moment.
Posted by 3lDuK3 - Fri 06 Nov 2020 18:27
yes, upgrading from my overclocked i7 920, it would be nice to wait for DDR 5 and Zen 4 on 5nm, but the 4 cores are starting to struggle in some games now…
Although I might get a 3600 to start with and get the CPU later, as I have my eye on the 6800XT as well.
Posted by Glyce - Fri 06 Nov 2020 18:28
Yes.
I'm actually buying a full computer and gifting my 2700x to a relative. It still works perfectly well, but the relative needs a gaming computer and I want a 5900x.
Posted by 13en - Fri 06 Nov 2020 18:52
Yes, and obviously it should be a huge upgrade from my current i5 2500k. I've even got the motherboard and RAM ready and waiting. Now I just need some to be in stock! Sold out by the time I'd opened any of my stock alert emails. Only going for a 5600x though, I don't think there's really much benefit to me in going for even more cores this time.

I see they're already on eBay for a ridiculous mark-up…
Posted by 3dcandy - Fri 06 Nov 2020 19:02
Not right now, but next year at some stage. Want an 8c16t cpu for current music pc (it struggles sometimes) which is currently a 2600.
Possibly swap a 5000 series into work pc so that would mean the 2700X would then go into music pc ;)
Posted by Iota - Fri 06 Nov 2020 19:34
No.

When I need 16 cores / 32 threads, more memory and bandwidth (DDR5?), faster storage (on NVMe drives and they're more than fast enough on PCIe 3.0!) I'll consider an upgrade for the base. A new GPU I'm open too though.
Posted by QuorTek - Fri 06 Nov 2020 20:04
my upgrade is next year so maybe will be having 6000 series by then, and then going all out.
Posted by pastymuncher - Fri 06 Nov 2020 20:09
No. I shall be waiting for when AMD release their new socket. Until then my 9600k @5Ghz is more than enough for my uses.
Posted by me-yeah - Fri 06 Nov 2020 20:38
there probably isn't any point if you have a 3950x or 3900 and run a GPGPU benchmark in AIDA64 and find out the shear power of CUDA or openCL
Posted by Output - Fri 06 Nov 2020 21:51
If I do it wouldn't be any time soon, as I've only been on the 3950X for less than a year.

And if I do it would obviously be the 5950X, so it would have to make sense in terms of what it would cost me and whether there was enough of a performance upgrade to whatever I'm running to justify that cost.

I did pick the 3950X to try to future-proof things as much as possible after all.
Posted by protagonist - Fri 06 Nov 2020 21:51
Yes/No

I have a case and PSU ready. I'm waiting for intel to fight back and start a price war. Aiming for an 8-core/16 thread for £200 :D and I hope I'm not being too optimistic
Posted by Percy1983 - Sat 07 Nov 2020 00:13
Will stay with my 3700x for now, but as I have a x570 board I will keep an eye on prices and maybe get one towards the end of life if the socket/boards change for the 6***x range.
Posted by Korrorra - Sat 07 Nov 2020 07:01
Most likely no. Way too extensive. I'm still waiting for 2021 and am5 mobo. Most likely do a new build.
Posted by judge56988 - Sat 07 Nov 2020 08:13
No. I'm not a gamer and x99 that I'm on is more than adequate for what I do.
Posted by Nifl - Sat 07 Nov 2020 08:21
Nah. Waiting for the next TR.
Posted by SpeedyJDK - Sat 07 Nov 2020 08:27
It was sold out everywhere on the same day it was released. And everywhere sais new ones arrive late december :D
So i'm glad my motherboard doesn't have a bios upgrade for it. No temptation :D
And i'm planning to jump on a X670 wagon with some pcie 5 instead, DDR5, maybe next year ?
Posted by mrwill79 - Sat 07 Nov 2020 09:26
No, just building a new PC and went for the 3600. Got it for £140 (if factor in a £45 rebate from MSI) and couldn't justify an extra £140 to get the 5600x.
Posted by jnutt - Sat 07 Nov 2020 09:41
Yes once the stock is available
Posted by badass - Sat 07 Nov 2020 10:31
Hmmm. Maybe next year. Maybe if a 5600 non X is released at around £200 ish. Or if an 8 core 5000 series dips below £300. Or I'll just keep waiting. My 8 year old CPU is only annoying occasionally right now. Motherboards are poor value, the CPU's are inadequate value and memory isn't great value* and I need 32GB of it.



*Seriously, It's not. Not then 8 Years ago I bought 32GB of “performance” RAM for less than £140. I don't care if it's “good value” compared to 2 years ago.
Posted by anselhelm - Sat 07 Nov 2020 11:44
Most definitely, but I'm waiting for a Ryzen 7 5700X and a UEFI update for my B450 motherboard to support it. Currently rocking a Ryzen 7 1700, slightly overclocked to 3.6GHz.
Posted by =assassin= - Sat 07 Nov 2020 13:58
I'm surprised at so many ‘no’ answers considering how good the reviews are, but I guess most of you guys already have recent CPU's anyway…. for me, I've been waiting for this kind of jump in gaming performance, as I don't upgrade very often. So I'm 100% going to go with AMD 5000 series, but I'm just not sure what I'll get yet (I'd prefer at least 8 core for longevity and for non-gaming goodness). The pricing is just not good enough at the moment though, but I'm worried that without a Brexit trade deal, the pound will tank after 31st December….. if there is no deal in place, I'm might just pay the premium, if there is a deal, I'll wait until March for Intel's Rocketlake to hopefully make AMD lower prices a bit. Current CPU is i7 875k btw.
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Sat 07 Nov 2020 14:17
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I'm surprised at so many ‘no’ answers considering how good the reviews are, but I guess most of you guys already have recent CPU's anyway…. for me, I've been waiting for this kind of jump in gaming performance, as I don't upgrade very often. So I'm 100% going to go with AMD 5000 series, but I'm just not sure what I'll get yet (I'd prefer at least 8 core for longevity and for non-gaming goodness). The pricing is just not good enough at the moment though, but I'm worried that without a Brexit trade deal, the pound will tank after 31st December….. if there is no deal in place, I'm might just pay the premium, if there is a deal, I'll wait until March for Intel's Rocketlake to hopefully make AMD lower prices a bit. Current CPU is i7 875k btw.

If you are getting the Ryzen 7 5800X,I would find the extra £100 and get the Ryzen 9 5900X especially since you seem to keep CPUs for quite a while.
Posted by DemonHighwayman - Sat 07 Nov 2020 14:26
Hopefully a 5900X if the right motherboard comes along.
Posted by nar53 - Sat 07 Nov 2020 15:55
Not very likely for me but you never know.
Posted by OOSeven - Sat 07 Nov 2020 19:32
I picked up a second hand 3700x to replace my 2700x for the reasonable performance improvements but the considerably better power draw. Based on that I won't be upgrading to 5xxx even though the performance is clearly excellent. Also means my B450 board will do me another year or two (yes I know they run 5xxx with BIOS updates from next year).
Posted by lon3wolf2002 - Sat 07 Nov 2020 19:41
=assassin=;4270783
I'm surprised at so many ‘no’ answers considering how good the reviews are, but I guess most of you guys already have recent CPU's anyway…. for me, I've been waiting for this kind of jump in gaming performance, as I don't upgrade very often. So I'm 100% going to go with AMD 5000 series, but I'm just not sure what I'll get yet (I'd prefer at least 8 core for longevity and for non-gaming goodness). The pricing is just not good enough at the moment though, but I'm worried that without a Brexit trade deal, the pound will tank after 31st December….. if there is no deal in place, I'm might just pay the premium, if there is a deal, I'll wait until March for Intel's Rocketlake to hopefully make AMD lower prices a bit. Current CPU is i7 875k btw.

I have a 1600x (so not old or particularly new) and game at 1440p so I see no benefit (maybe less power draw and maybe 10 -15 fps increase) going by this:

https://wccftech.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-and-ryzen-5-3600x-cpu-review-asrock-x570-taichi-motherboard/8/
Posted by Fabula - Sat 07 Nov 2020 20:03
Maybe.

family computer has recently died, so planning on demoting my current skylake i5 system to that duty, and getting a new system for christmas. x570, and a processor. Don´t know if I will be able to stretch to a 5600, but we will see. Got an original Titan, so would be looking for a GFX upgrade at the same time.

Need to play and win the christmas lottery.
Posted by EasterEEL - Sat 07 Nov 2020 20:36
Paper launch, no where to buy. Like the RTX-30xx. Waste of time looking until next year. I don't appreciate the price gouging either.
Posted by Lordhawkwind - Sat 07 Nov 2020 21:33
Not untill Asus update my X470 Prime Pro. I have a 2700 so no real rush TBH.
Posted by jimbouk - Sat 07 Nov 2020 21:48
Quite possibly, in a couple of years, second hand…

I can't see me ‘needing’ an upgrade anytime soon on the CPU front, graphics card will be holding me back if I ever stay playing modern games again.
Posted by chj - Sat 07 Nov 2020 22:07
Yes, but in a laptop. I desperately need a new laptop and that will tide me over a couple of years until I pull the trigger on a DDR5 desktop hopefully.
Posted by Corky34 - Sat 07 Nov 2020 23:40
I'll be buying one around the time the 6k series are released, hopefully they'll be priced to clear so i can do a drop in replacement on my x570 board and won't have the expense of a new board + RAM.
Posted by Fatal_Exception - Sun 08 Nov 2020 09:03
I'll be building a new rig to replace the daily driver (10 yo Phenom II). When I'll upgrade is more up for debate, but probably early to mid-spring to allow the initial supplies to stabilise as well as prices. It'll be full AMD system barring anything spectacular coming from nVidia and the first ‘gaming’ rig I've built in over a decade.

I'd love to wait out for Zen 4 and the architectural changes it promises to bring but realistically Zen 3 with an 6000 series GPU more than meets my needs and likely so for the next decade, just just have to decide if the 5900 is worth it over the 5800.
Posted by simonpreston - Sun 08 Nov 2020 12:09
Nope. As much as I'd like to I'm pretty happy with the 3800X I bought, a couple of months ago. Should see me good for a few years.
Posted by ohmaheid - Sun 08 Nov 2020 15:14
I'll wait for the next gen AMD (or maybe Intel) depending on price/performance. My storage needs a revamp first, so it's a 1tb NVME as a boot drive and 4TB SSD for a scratch drive to replace my current 500gb Samsung SSD and 2tb mechanical drive. Currently using an R5 3600 with a B450 MSI board, so a CPU upgrade to the 5xxx series is possible, but unlikely.
Posted by Euphonium - Sun 08 Nov 2020 18:09
I built myself a Ryzen 3900X back in the summer so I'm not in a hurry to upgrade, but I'd still consider jumping to a 5900X next summer with a view to keeping it for 5-6 years minimum. My last machine was an i7-3770k and that lasted me ~8 years.
Posted by bae85 - Sun 08 Nov 2020 20:18
so disappointed… I looked through these comments and there's not a single Intel fanboy in sight!
Posted by AlSomething - Sun 08 Nov 2020 23:01
Unlikely, if I do find funds to upgrade, it will be a new 1TB NVM as my 500 is full and games are increasing in size quicker than me saying yes to a 2nd piece of cake.
It would the Zen 4 as I generally miss at least 1 generation, that way I get value for money and see a noticeable jump in performance.
Posted by silent - Sun 08 Nov 2020 23:59
selling my i5 9th gen system, will grab a r5/7 and 6900xt in the new year. after my ps5 purchase.
Posted by Dribble - Mon 09 Nov 2020 10:01
Both my sons new a new cpu and 5600X would be perfect, but only if I can get it and the mb for sensible (i.e. rrp) pricing which I have my doubts about.
Posted by cheesemp - Mon 09 Nov 2020 12:49
Built myself a 3600 system back in spring and its just not stressed CPU wise. Will look at 5600x upgrade in about 4 years.
Posted by Core2Extreme - Mon 09 Nov 2020 13:51
Maybe. I'd planned on waiting for Zen 4 and DDR5, but DDR4 is so cheap these days that it hardly seems worth skipping DDR4 anymore. And the performance improvements are way too extensive in Zen 3 for it not to be an interesting proposition.

On the flip side, the games I play and software I run tends to not be very CPU intensive, and my 2500K is still doing a fine job playing games whose official CPU recommendations range from a 486 at 66 MHz (Doom) to a Core 2 Quad Q9550 for the most modern Doom clone I play. I've been amazed by its longevity compared to my previous CPUs… and whenever I do upgrade to Zen, that CPU's longevity will likely be even better.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Mon 09 Nov 2020 13:56
Moved from an FX8350+1080 to a 5600X+1080 and holy sweet baby jesus it was beyond night and day.

The speed at which everything moves, the buttery smooth gameplay, Star Citizen running at above 30FPS (averaging 50) it was nuts.

So pleased with my purchase.
Posted by loccothan - Mon 09 Nov 2020 14:28
No need ;)
Everything is working like a charm.
Posted by tonyd2233 - Tue 10 Nov 2020 08:38
Possibly… I suppose it's a end of socket upgrade and I've already got the 3800X… And I've got the Asus Crosshair X470, so probably will see what the bios upgrades are as it doesn't make much sense to me to buy a new motherboard as well as a new graphics card; the 1080ti will need replacing soon, and that may also require an upgrade from the 650w PSU…
Posted by [GSV]Trig - Tue 10 Nov 2020 08:57
Jury is still out on this one, I've got a 1600AF at the mo, next upgrades are Monitor, GPU, beyond that I might wait until AM5, shrink to iTX on my main rig and go from there.

Unless a really good deal on a CPU pops up after the monitor/GPU, I'll probs stay where I am..
Posted by Saracen999 - Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:31
Am I upgrading?

Hmmm. Very possibly, yes. But not quite yet. Thinking about it.

Someone (rabidmonkee I think) said it's a 10yr upgrade. Me too. The system I'm contemplating upgrading is a Core 2 Q9400S, so I'd say at the very least, the ‘upgrade’ consists of cup, mono and RAM, and as the graphics card is of the same era, probably that too.

And if I'm going that far, it probably makes sense to get newer storage, and quite possibly PSU. In other words, it's not so much a cpu upgrade as a new system and if I can find the right spec from the right company at the right price, I might just buy the lot prebuilt and save myself the effort.

But ….,Ryzen 5000, specifically? Decision not yet made. I might go for fairly high end Zen 2, I might wait for 5000prices to hopefully stabilise a bit, or I might even wait for AM5.

I'm not in any tearing hurry, but when I do finally do it, it will be with a view to best bang-for-buck, and with at least one eye on not upgrading again for another 10+ years. The question is, just how far to push the spec to achieve that. I have a sneaky feeling that given relatively undemanding needs, all I'd achieve with 5000 over a good 3000 chip would be loading the budget without much changing longevity.

And if so, it will depend on the size of the price difference.

All of which brings me full circle, to yes, very possibly. Thinking about it.

Of course, also thinking about a new kitchen, which looks to be £20k+, so the new PC may take a back seat to that if the kitchen budget goes up any further. Then there's the bathroom to do. And a new garden shed …. and redo the back garden layout for low maintenance. And maybe a new car probably EV. What I really need is next weekend's winning lottery numbers.
Posted by 3dcandy - Tue 10 Nov 2020 11:44
Saracen999
Am I upgrading?

Hmmm. Very possibly, yes. But not quite yet. Thinking about it.

Someone (rabidmonkee I think) said it's a 10yr upgrade. Me too. The system I'm contemplating upgrading is a Core 2 Q9400S, so I'd say at the very least, the ‘upgrade’ consists of cup, mono and RAM, and as the graphics card is of the same era, probably that too.

And if I'm going that far, it probably makes sense to get newer storage, and quite possibly PSU. In other words, it's not so much a cpu upgrade as a new system and if I can find the right spec from the right company at the right price, I might just buy the lot prebuilt and save myself the effort.

But ….,Ryzen 5000, specifically? Decision not yet made. I might go for fairly high end Zen 2, I might wait for 5000prices to hopefully stabilise a bit, or I might even wait for AM5.

I'm not in any tearing hurry, but when I do finally do it, it will be with a view to best bang-for-buck, and with at least one eye on not upgrading again for another 10+ years. The question is, just how far to push the spec to achieve that. I have a sneaky feeling that given relatively undemanding needs, all I'd achieve with 5000 over a good 3000 chip would be loading the budget without much changing longevity.

And if so, it will depend on the size of the price difference.

All of which brings me full circle, to yes, very possibly. Thinking about it.

Of course, also thinking about a new kitchen, which looks to be £20k+, so the new PC may take a back seat to that if the kitchen budget goes up any further. Then there's the bathroom to do. And a new garden shed …. and redo the back garden layout for low maintenance. And maybe a new car probably EV. What I really need is next weekend's winning lottery numbers.

Get a 570 motherboard then as gen4 support. Then get a nice fast nvme ssd. I'd honestly say that is more important than the cpu these days as anything so far released in the 5000 series cpu is going to be epic for you
Posted by noTHINGface - Wed 11 Nov 2020 08:51
I did - Not an upgrade but my eldest is using the i7-8700K/1080Ti box.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Wed 11 Nov 2020 09:12
Saracen999
I have a sneaky feeling that given relatively undemanding needs, all I'd achieve with 5000 over a good 3000 chip would be loading the budget without much changing longevity.

Given you don't seem to play the latest games, I wonder if one of the APUs would work for you. The 4000 series look pretty good, and allow you form factors like the tiny little Asrock X300.

From a Core 2 quad, even a £45 Athlon 2 core/4 thread cpu would be a massive upgrade. So you kind of can't go wrong.
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Wed 11 Nov 2020 11:33
Saracen999
Am I upgrading?

Hmmm. Very possibly, yes. But not quite yet. Thinking about it.

Someone (rabidmonkee I think) said it's a 10yr upgrade. Me too. The system I'm contemplating upgrading is a Core 2 Q9400S, so I'd say at the very least, the ‘upgrade’ consists of cup, mono and RAM, and as the graphics card is of the same era, probably that too.

And if I'm going that far, it probably makes sense to get newer storage, and quite possibly PSU. In other words, it's not so much a cpu upgrade as a new system and if I can find the right spec from the right company at the right price, I might just buy the lot prebuilt and save myself the effort.

But ….,Ryzen 5000, specifically? Decision not yet made. I might go for fairly high end Zen 2, I might wait for 5000prices to hopefully stabilise a bit, or I might even wait for AM5.

I'm not in any tearing hurry, but when I do finally do it, it will be with a view to best bang-for-buck, and with at least one eye on not upgrading again for another 10+ years. The question is, just how far to push the spec to achieve that. I have a sneaky feeling that given relatively undemanding needs, all I'd achieve with 5000 over a good 3000 chip would be loading the budget without much changing longevity.

And if so, it will depend on the size of the price difference.

All of which brings me full circle, to yes, very possibly. Thinking about it.

Of course, also thinking about a new kitchen, which looks to be £20k+, so the new PC may take a back seat to that if the kitchen budget goes up any further. Then there's the bathroom to do. And a new garden shed …. and redo the back garden layout for low maintenance. And maybe a new car probably EV. What I really need is next weekend's winning lottery numbers.

In terms of cost per core,you can get the 12C/24T Ryzen 9 3900 non-X for between £310~£325. My mate who had a Phenom II X6 1045T for nearly 10 years upgraded to one recently and hopefully it should have a long lifespan too.

OTH,as suggested by others we should see AMD Zen2/Zen3 APUs officially on AM4 next year,so that would be a fairly powerful 8 core CPU,with a reasonable graphics solution integrated into it.
Posted by zugged2 - Thu 12 Nov 2020 15:13
Tempted to upgrade to a 5000 series APU, when they become available. Could say the same about the 4000 series though. And the existence of those (in pre-built or coming soon) puts me off the 3200g and 3400g.
Posted by towell - Thu 12 Nov 2020 15:18
Managed to get a 5600X on release day. Was an upgrade from a 4790K so I certainly feel the boost, and definitely compliments the 3080 I got soon after. Ran very hot with the stock cooler though!
Posted by deeppow - Thu 12 Nov 2020 17:52
Already done so.
Posted by iVoka - Thu 12 Nov 2020 18:32
I'd like to, but I'm more in need of a laptop right now, which if possible will be Ryzen-powered, too!
Posted by Hasnain - Fri 13 Nov 2020 00:53
I was going to at first but decided to just stick with my trust 3700x and upgrade to zen 4 and am5 next. The gains won't be super big at 1440p where you are often GPU bottlenecked.
Posted by Sumanji - Fri 13 Nov 2020 04:17
All depends on motherboard support… hoping Asus don't half-arse it and deliver some partially functioning Beta BIOS for older boards (X470 in my case).

If the support is solid, I can definitely see myself with a 5900X to replace this 2700X :)

No real need/urgency though… far more interested to get my hands on a 6000 series GPU!
Posted by Bambooz - Fri 13 Nov 2020 04:28
=assassin=;4270783
I'm surprised at so many ‘no’ answers considering how good the reviews are

Between things like the price hike (5800X is waaay more expensive than what I paid for my 3700X, and a 5600X is a downgrade (yet still more expensive than the 3700X was)) and my mobo not getting a BIOS update till next year (if that ever happens, knowing Asus), I'll pass.

Sumanji
All depends on motherboard support… hoping Asus don't half-arse it and deliver some partially functioning Beta BIOS for older boards (X470 in my case).

Exactly my worry as well. Here's hoping the guys from the bios-mods.com forum will cobble something decent together if Asus decides to show their customer base the middle finger… again.
These guys already managed to somehow add NVMe drivers to my old ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance BIOS, meaning I can use NVMe SSDs with a PCIe adapter from ebay on a 2011 platform, bootable and everything :D
Not to mention the modded BIOS for my thinkpad I got from there…
Posted by Denjiro - Fri 13 Nov 2020 06:28
The spirit is willing, but the wallet is weak.
Posted by Pegasus82 - Fri 13 Nov 2020 09:35
My plan was to wait for the Ryzen 5000 series to launch, then pickup a Ryzen 5 3600 from the upgrading flock. Now that I see the Ryzen 5600X, I think I might just go for that if I can get my hands on one. I am currently on i5 6600K.
Posted by richardnpaul - Fri 13 Nov 2020 16:14
EasterEEL
Paper launch, no where to buy. Like the RTX-30xx. Waste of time looking until next year. I don't appreciate the price gouging either.

CAT-THE-FIFTH
I am sure many will,but at current pricing unlikely in my case. I might hold out and see what happens next year,but I am pessimistic about it.

Exactly these, too pricey, price gouging. I was all set to buy but the price jump is just ridiculous. If they keep this mentality when they ship double the cores again next year we'll be paying double the price again? This is exactly the kind of thinking which got Intel where they are. I've got the motherboard, I have cut some custom 3mm coper plates, drilled the countersunk holes and fitted them with my generic watercooling blocks to the motherboard. I've added 32GB of 3600MHz RAM and now I'm waiting for a processor at a reasonable price, and if I have to I'll wait a year.
Posted by Saracen999 - Fri 13 Nov 2020 16:30
CAT-THE-FIFTH
In terms of cost per core,you can get the 12C/24T Ryzen 9 3900 non-X for between £310~£325. My mate who had a Phenom II X6 1045T for nearly 10 years upgraded to one recently and hopefully it should have a long lifespan too.

OTH,as suggested by others we should see AMD Zen2/Zen3 APUs officially on AM4 next year,so that would be a fairly powerful 8 core CPU,with a reasonable graphics solution integrated into it.
Thanks, Cat.

TBH, my Plan A was to think carefully, at the right time (probably not before New Year (unless Black Friday throws up a really good option which I rather doubt)) and drop you and one or two others a “heeeellp” PM. ;)
Posted by 3dcandy - Fri 13 Nov 2020 16:34
richardnpaul
Exactly these, too pricey, price gouging. I was all set to buy but the price jump is just ridiculous. If they keep this mentality when they ship double the cores again next year we'll be paying double the price again? This is exactly the kind of thinking which got Intel where they are. I've got the motherboard, I have cut some custom 3mm coper plates, drilled the countersunk holes and fitted them with my generic watercooling blocks to the motherboard. I've added 32GB of 3600MHz RAM and now I'm waiting for a processor at a reasonable price, and if I have to I'll wait a year.

Whilst it might appear that it was a paper launch I am told it certainly wasn't just so many were snapped up and then put up for sale at a profit by the scalpers that it appears like one. With massive amounts of stock coming all the time as well. I'd normally agree with you but the xbox launch has gone the same and it's even happened with stuff like synths and keyboards in the pro music worls where they are sold out and you can't get any because the scalpers have got there

It has got to be something about a pandemic causing this because the other strange thing it happened to was a kitchen product (Ninja Foodie dual air cooker if you really wanted to know) that was launched with a decent ad campaign and then sold out and is still sold out and nobody can really understand why including the Ninja Foodie company who had to suspend the ad campaign only a third of the way through it's run because they sold the projected first 6 months of product within a couple of weeks
Posted by 3dcandy - Fri 13 Nov 2020 16:38
And just to add I know of at least 20 people who have bought new xbox(s) as Christmas presents so they won't even be opened for another 6 weeks but they pre-ordered them because of covid and the uncertainty around it. It's been a strange year and even AMD putting say £50 on top hasn't dampened the enthusiasm
Posted by Saracen999 - Fri 13 Nov 2020 16:42
3dcandy
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It has got to be something about a pandemic causing this because the other strange thing it happened to was a kitchen product (Ninja Foodie dual air cooker if you really wanted to know) that was launched with a decent ad campaign and then sold out and is still sold out and nobody can really understand why including the Ninja Foodie company who had to suspend the ad campaign only a third of the way through it's run because they sold the projected first 6 months of product within a couple of weeks
On the one hand, not a bad problem to have.

But that sort of level of demand unpredictability does make launching anything a bit of a crap shoot. I don't envy their product managers.
Posted by richardnpaul - Fri 13 Nov 2020 17:26
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Exactly these, too pricey, price gouging. I was all set to buy but the price jump is just ridiculous. If they keep this mentality when they ship double the cores again next year we'll be paying double the price again? This is exactly the kind of thinking which got Intel where they are. I've got the motherboard, I have cut some custom 3mm coper plates, drilled the countersunk holes and fitted them with my generic watercooling blocks to the motherboard. I've added 32GB of 3600MHz RAM and now I'm waiting for a processor at a reasonable price, and if I have to I'll wait a year.

Whilst it might appear that it was a paper launch I am told it certainly wasn't just so many were snapped up and then put up for sale at a profit by the scalpers that it appears like one. With massive amounts of stock coming all the time as well. I'd normally agree with you but the xbox launch has gone the same and it's even happened with stuff like synths and keyboards in the pro music worls where they are sold out and you can't get any because the scalpers have got there

It has got to be something about a pandemic causing this because the other strange thing it happened to was a kitchen product (Ninja Foodie dual air cooker if you really wanted to know) that was launched with a decent ad campaign and then sold out and is still sold out and nobody can really understand why including the Ninja Foodie company who had to suspend the ad campaign only a third of the way through it's run because they sold the projected first 6 months of product within a couple of weeks

I was actually talking about AMD's price gouging. The MRSP for the 3900x was $449. The 5900x has an MRSP of $549. That's a 22% markup for 19% more performance. That's the reason for my remark about doubling the cores. Intel stayed at about the same prices for 4 cores for many years and charged a lot more if you wanted anything more than that and that's what you get if you just look at the performance benefits over your current generation and decide to bump up your prices by a matching amount. It's bulls**t and I refuse to give them my money until they change tack.

Im running a pair of E5-2690s and a Vega 64. I play DotA so I really don't have a huge reason to be upgrading but my PC definitely struggling to hit 144hz consistently, my Vega 64 is a bit temperamental since my watercooling decided it would much rather be on the floor rather than in the loop mid game so I was all set up for a GPU and CPU upgrade but at their current prices they can sod off. I'll keep my money and I'm not the only one by the looks of things.

Hopefully they will flood the market to the point that all the mugs are satiated and then prices will drop as demand dries up at the current prices.
Posted by the_Unforgiven - Sat 14 Nov 2020 03:32
I just bought a 3800X last month, my first time I am into AMD CPU territory;
actually, I didn't know the 5xxx were coming, I was hibernating :p