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Posted by cptwhite_uk - Tue 29 Sep 2020 12:26
So that's the final nail then, until Intel pulls their finger out.
Posted by Zhaoman - Tue 29 Sep 2020 12:33
So I'll wait a year or two for prices on these to fall a bit and I'll bag one to drop in to my B450 mobo to last me another 4 years. What a time to be alive!
Posted by darcotech - Tue 29 Sep 2020 15:00
These will not work on B350.
Posted by PMMEASURES - Tue 29 Sep 2020 15:06
As we don't have Intels 11th Gen new superfin yet I think those numbers above potentially puts those products in the same performance category so be interesting looks like AMD ahead of the game at the moment but equally Intels 11th Gen maybe in same ball park or slight ahead still hard to gauge but if Superfin 17%/18% better than 10th Gen add that to Intels figures above there maybe still a battle looming.
Posted by Dashers - Tue 29 Sep 2020 15:59
Intel will bounce back, they always do. But AMD should monopolise on the advantage while they can.

I'm more interested in the HEDT space, and I'm thinking that will get some disruption in the next couple of years.
Posted by edmundhonda - Tue 29 Sep 2020 16:57
PMMEASURES
but if Superfin

I wouldn't take Intel's word on anything, you shouldn't either.
Posted by mercyground - Tue 29 Sep 2020 17:30
Its going to be at least a year for Intel to get faster kit. 9 Months at the earliest cos thats what it takes time wise to do new silicon. If they still having issues with their process tech? It could be 2 years.
Posted by PMMEASURES - Tue 29 Sep 2020 18:22
edmundhonda
PMMEASURES
but if Superfin

I wouldn't take Intel's word on anything, you shouldn't either.

hense … “if” :-) until silicon in real peoples hands and independently benched it is all just “If's” but if those numbers do translate into real world.. as I say the battle “could” still on or equally not lol.

I Should say I am in the AMD camp over Intel ;-) both have pro and cons though and Intel have shot themselves in the foot of late so to speak and it does also come down to what the end user regards as being important to them different users look for different metrics be you a Gamer/Business User/ Scientific User/ Video/Media content creator/Data Center.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Tue 29 Sep 2020 19:37
darcotech
These will not work on B350.

Should make the 3000 series nice and cheap though.


PMMEASURES
As we don't have Intels 11th Gen new superfin yet

But aren't those 10nm, and Intel have most of their fabs set to make 14nm parts. So they might go like the clappers, but that only matters if you can actually buy them.
Posted by Iota - Tue 29 Sep 2020 19:42
PMMEASURES
As we don't have Intels 11th Gen new superfin yet I think those numbers above potentially puts those products in the same performance category so be interesting looks like AMD ahead of the game at the moment but equally Intels 11th Gen maybe in same ball park or slight ahead still hard to gauge but if Superfin 17%/18% better than 10th Gen add that to Intels figures above there maybe still a battle looming.

Intel haven't done themselves any favours by limiting core counts and increasing pricing and segregating product stacks by limiting what works on which chipset (let alone security flaws galore). Honestly they could come out with something superb tomorrow and I wouldn't buy from them, my money would go to AMD even if they performed slightly slower IPC wise, pricing and feature wise they're really putting the boot into Intel.
Posted by Orcworm - Tue 29 Sep 2020 20:21
I probably won't buy one, but it's still brilliant to see AMD bringing some sort of competition to the table.
Posted by thewelshbrummie - Wed 30 Sep 2020 04:44
I'm taking this with bucketloads of salt until I see some independent benchmarking.

There's 3 obvious issues with this leak:


So I'm holding fire on giving AMD credit until we see some actual independent results that suggest that this is accurate.
Posted by lumireleon - Wed 30 Sep 2020 06:43
Jensen be like “ hey Su can you send some next gen chips for benchmark on our Ampere GPUs?”

Su be like “sorry they are simply overwhelming for you”
Posted by kalniel - Wed 30 Sep 2020 08:06
PMMEASURES
it does also come down to what the end user regards as being important to them different users look for different metrics be you a Gamer/Business User/ Scientific User/ Video/Media content creator/Data Center.
If the rumours are correct, it looks like AMD will win practically all those metrics.

But I agree with the note of caution. Thankfully, not all that long to wait to find out.
Posted by 3dcandy - Wed 30 Sep 2020 09:58
I don't have an Intel based system left after the last round of upgrades retired my X5670.
3 x Ryzen 2000 based systems (the cpu's were extremely keenly priced) and an AMD 5150 quad core as an rtmp server are the main systems in use now

Oh I forgot I have a Xeon based server/nas. Shortly to be replaced with a Ryzen build as I can get 8c16t in less than the Xeons 85W TDP for 4c8t
Posted by JazzSmoothie - Wed 30 Sep 2020 21:47
This is beautiful to see, and I hope it holds up across other benchmarks. Can't wait to buy a 5800X (if they're in stock!!)