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Posted by Hoonigan - Thu 17 Sep 2020 10:18
I expected the pricing to be way higher than it is, with Sony perhaps leaning on their dominance within the market and strong exclusives. Not the case. Great price point on the Digital Edition.

I think I'll be grabbing the standard version for the 4K Blu Ray player, allowing us to get rid of the Xbox One S that's being used exclusively as such. Should be able to get about the price difference in selling that.
Posted by Bagpuss - Thu 17 Sep 2020 10:25
That (crummy) launch line-up reminds me why i never think its worth getting a new generation console until about 18mths after release.
Posted by Saracen999 - Thu 17 Sep 2020 10:29
Bagpuss
That (crummy) launch line-up reminds me why i never think its worth getting a new generation console until about 18mths after release.
Often a good time for offers on existing stock of about-to-be-superceded old models though.
Posted by Dribble - Thu 17 Sep 2020 10:36
They have been outmanoeuvred by MS. The S is £250 and the games pass is good value + you will get some free months with a new console. It is the obvious buy if you don't want to spend a fortune and then you are hooked to the xbox eco system.
Posted by Saracen999 - Thu 17 Sep 2020 10:36
Moderately interesting. Shame it looks like a cross between an anorexic (Battlestar Galactica) Cylon, and a Tonka toy. No way is that going to be on-show in your lounge. Domestic Management would hang me up by the 'nads.

Also, looks like a superb design …. for a dust trap.
Posted by TheAnimus - Thu 17 Sep 2020 10:44
It just looks a bit cheap, especially next to a modern TV or AV Receiver.

Kind of like the Apple stuff of the late 90s.
Posted by Dareos - Thu 17 Sep 2020 11:02
havent had a look at the digital only edition, but seeing as i almost exclusively download games, i cant see me needing the full edition, so thats an excellent price.

as long as the specs are identical
Posted by daddacool - Thu 17 Sep 2020 11:04
Console fan in this house (since I switched from an Atari ST to MD/SNES back in the day), as well as a PC fan but I think I'll wait on this. At this point, with the All Access pricing, it's easier to buy a new Xbox with game pass for £20-£30 a month and see how this generation plays out that to stump up for a PS5 upfront.

The thing is also huge, almost twice the height of the PS4 Pro(!) and significantly wider.
Posted by LSG501 - Thu 17 Sep 2020 11:16
I really do wonder who console manufacturers think ‘gamers’ are these days…

The design is so out of place for most homes it's ridiculous… whatever happened to doing something that would ‘fit’ the home decor, at least MS's doesn't look daft.

Then you have games costing £70…. good job there isn't many in the launch line up at those sort of prices….

As someone who doesn't have a console and is unlikely to buy one (prefer pc) imo the MS offerings are much better.
Posted by Yoyoyo69 - Thu 17 Sep 2020 11:24
Hoonigan
I expected the pricing to be way higher than it is, with Sony perhaps leaning on their dominance within the market and strong exclusives. Not the case. Great price point on the Digital Edition.

I think I'll be grabbing the standard version for the 4K Blu Ray player, allowing us to get rid of the Xbox One S that's being used exclusively as such. Should be able to get about the price difference in selling that.


The spec is slightly (ever so) inferior to the Series X, so I expected them to at least match, but thought they may undercut.

Still, I didn't think they price the digital version so low. I think a lot if people will go for that, it'll cost a lot more in the long run (a hell of a lot more).

Microsft have dominated in everything so far next gen, not outright dominated with console pricing, now Sony have held off to counter.

The Series S may sell well, especially in the current climate, but I know more people who are less sure if a purchase now, due to this lower teir model.

Having the Xbox One X and now the Series S (which is weaker in GPU grunt, may just surpass the One X with newer features) just feels like a step back, rather than progress.

Microsoft have also forced Sony to address the poor service they offer, but even the small package they have offered isn't very good.

I feel next gen could be rubbish for at least a year after launch, no good games (either side), let alone must have, wasted tech, so far.
Posted by KultiVator - Thu 17 Sep 2020 11:41
Watched the launch event… was struck by how little appeal the PS5 exclusives have for me. Perhaps I’m too old for the PS5.
Posted by Boon72 - Thu 17 Sep 2020 11:45
As a One X and One S and One family. my son will be updating his One S to a Series X but I'm happy with the One X or now, my daughters not that bother and still uses the One on her 1080p tv, as we use 4K tvs.
Posted by jimbouk - Thu 17 Sep 2020 11:54
Sony are pretty good at supporting their last generation for a while so I guess it would valid to pick up a cut price/second hand PS4 Pro for virtual 4k gaming compared to the XBox Series S. The subscription model is interesting - Microsoft have been pushing it for software for a while, now hardware! Makes you wonder whether Microsoft are going to be pushing for a generation shift and will start dropping the current XBOnes sooner rather than later?

Will probably pick up one with the drive sometime next year. Still ugly as though!
Posted by Kato-2 - Thu 17 Sep 2020 12:21
The only interesting thing was Demon Souls and they accidentally confirmed its coming to PC.

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/demons-souls-remake-is-officially-coming-to-the-pc/

No need to buy a PS5 now for me at least.
Posted by cheesemp - Thu 17 Sep 2020 12:54
For me a console has always been a compliment to the PC - not a replacement and therefore with the Series S including game pass (which I already use) for £21 a month its almost a no brainer looking at these prices. If I want more power I've got a PC. A decent 1080p device for a quick gaming session is enough for me.
Posted by MaddogPepper - Thu 17 Sep 2020 13:08
Looking forward to getting both, but I think I'll wait 12 - 18 months for a PS5 more of their exclusives will be out by then and the games should have dropped to a reasonable price. In the meantime I'll pay £30 a month and have Game Pass and a Series X to entertain me while I wait. The winners of the “console war” = gamers :-)
Posted by QuorTek - Thu 17 Sep 2020 17:00
Would like the BD variant, for good reasons :)
Posted by nikitadesai - Fri 18 Sep 2020 06:51
The price is really high I m not expecting this.
Posted by Shante - Fri 18 Sep 2020 23:23
If i wasn't getting a Rtx 3080, it would have been a PS5
Posted by IAmATeaf - Sat 19 Sep 2020 10:43
My sons both have managed to preorder, one with the disk and one without. Not a gaming fan but they tell me that it crashed all the sites where preorders were available.
Posted by b0redom - Sat 19 Sep 2020 11:33
As per usual, new hardware for its own sake is a bit pointless. Until there’s a new god of war, naughtydog release or something really compelling I’ll just wait.
Posted by Orcworm - Sat 19 Sep 2020 18:21
It seems a decent price, but I'm not really sure what it has going for it in terms of exclusives just yet - the only game I was really interested in was the new Spider man, and that's coming to PS4 too anyway.
Posted by chj - Sat 19 Sep 2020 18:45
On pcpartpicker to make an equivalent PC build i'm coming up with around £700.
Posted by kompukare - Sat 19 Sep 2020 20:16
chj
On pcpartpicker to make an equivalent PC build i'm coming up with around £700.
Interesting idea, but I've hit over £1,000
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/M7rQjp
  1. R7 3700X
  2. cheapest B550 board (PS4 has PCIe 4.0)
  3. 2x4GB of DDR4 (as the graphic card has 8GB too but of course not shared so 16GB DDR4 + graphic card would probably be more realistic)
  4. Corsair MP600 - needs to be PCIe. Seems the Gigabyte Aorus is sligthly cheaper. 1TB so a bit more capacity.
  5. Radeon 5700 XT 8GB - the non-XT is a close match to PS5 in terms of specs but since Sony clocked it so high a 5700 XT is closer in performance
  6. The cheapest case listed in pcpartpicker
  7. A 500W power supply - the Seasonic S12III was only a few pounds more than the cheapest listed.
  8. No operating system

Thing is, this PC would probably still run be a fair bit slower than the PS5
Posted by chj - Sat 19 Sep 2020 21:02
kompukare
Interesting idea, but I've hit over £1,000
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/M7rQjp
  1. R7 3700X
  2. cheapest B550 board (PS4 has PCIe 4.0)
  3. 2x4GB of DDR4 (as the graphic card has 8GB too but of course not shared so 16GB DDR4 + graphic card would probably be more realistic)
  4. Corsair MP600 - needs to be PCIe. Seems the Gigabyte Aorus is sligthly cheaper. 1TB so a bit more capacity.
  5. Radeon 5700 XT 8GB - the non-XT is a close match to PS5 in terms of specs but since Sony clocked it so high a 5700 XT is closer in performance
  6. The cheapest case listed in pcpartpicker
  7. A 500W power supply - the Seasonic S12III was only a few pounds more than the cheapest listed.
  8. No operating system

Thing is, this PC would probably still run be a fair bit slower than the PS5

Yeah i think i left off the pc case, went for the cheapest 450 mobo and then eyeballed the dollars into pounds. Even with the better deals sony/msft most likely get buying a high volume of parts, the consoles must be loss leaders. I guess it must be the games tax, peripherals and subscriptions they make their money back on.
Posted by Xlucine - Sat 19 Sep 2020 22:44
chj
Yeah i think i left off the pc case, went for the cheapest 450 mobo and then eyeballed the dollars into pounds. Even with the better deals sony/msft most likely get buying a high volume of parts, the consoles must be loss leaders. I guess it must be the games tax, peripherals and subscriptions they make their money back on.

The digital edition shows this - disc drives aren't that expensive, the important thing for sony with that model is the cut they get from digital copies.

Sony getting the distribution revenue cut rather than brick and mortar stores means they can afford to discount the console, and they wouldn't even have to charge more than brick and mortar stores.
Posted by lodoya - Wed 28 Oct 2020 09:26
Orcworm
It seems a decent price, but I'm not really sure what it has going for it in terms of exclusives just yet - the only game I was really interested in was the new Spider man, and that's coming to PS4 too anyway.
You would still get the free upgrade of Spider man on PS5 I think