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Posted by CK_1985 - Mon 21 Jul 2008 10:57
Forget the bizarre 2Gb 4850, THIS is a card to get interested in…

Benches please!
Posted by kalniel - Mon 21 Jul 2008 11:31
Can anyone say ‘engineering sample’? The cooler looks like it's just been slapped on there :p
Posted by Hicks12 - Mon 21 Jul 2008 11:53
kalniel
Can anyone say ‘engineering sample’? The cooler looks like it's just been slapped on there :p

i thought that to lol. Im probably wrong saying this but surely the results seen from this card will be a minimal improvement unless they changed the bus to 512 or 376, higher than the 256 currently? that would bottleneck it or am i just wrong where its negligable.
Posted by DeSean - Mon 21 Jul 2008 14:07
Hicks12
i thought that to lol. Im probably wrong saying this but surely the results seen from this card will be a minimal improvement unless they changed the bus to 512 or 376, higher than the 256 currently? that would bottleneck it or am i just wrong where its negligable.

The insane speed of GDDR5 makes up for the comparatively low memory bus (compared to GTX280). So, the 1GB version would be able to compete more effectively at very high resolutions or in games with very large textures etc, as I understand it. Also, I think Crossfire can benefit from both cards having more than 512MB of memory.
Posted by badass - Mon 21 Jul 2008 16:32
the one reason to go for a Geforce GTX 260 over a Radeon HD4870 has just been removed.
I was concerned the 512MB whilst fine for current games would be to little too quickly obsoleted.
Posted by Brewster0101 - Mon 21 Jul 2008 16:33
Its crazy to have any cooler on a 4000 series card that does not take the heat straight out the Pc as the heat generated is hot….
Posted by kalniel - Mon 21 Jul 2008 17:17
Brewster0101
as the heat generated is hot….

:crazy:
Posted by Betty_Swallocks - Mon 21 Jul 2008 17:31
I wonder if their overclocking effort on this is any better than the “overclocked” Powercolor 3870 I bought. It's RAM is at standard speed and if you try to raise the speed anywhere near the level they advertise it artefacts immediately. I'm not the only one it happens to either. There are plenty of reports on the web of people with the same problem.

I won't be trusting Powercolors pre clocked cards again.
Posted by stevie lee - Mon 21 Jul 2008 17:39
anyone with more money than sense willing to do an itty bitty experiment?

4 of these cards in crossfireX + 32bit windows = see what happens..

we all know about the 4gb resource limit on 32bit windows, but what happens to windows when the 4gb is taken up purely by the graphics?
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awaits answer…. also awaits 2gb 4870X2 + drivers to run 4 of them = idea for next experiment - what happens when running 4 x 2gb 4870X2's on a 32bit windows..
Posted by kalniel - Mon 21 Jul 2008 18:09
As the memory for each card should be holding the same thing crossfire should only take up one card's worth of virtual address space. Don't know if that happens in practise.
Posted by SiM - Mon 21 Jul 2008 18:16
stevie lee;1477624
also awaits 2gb 4870X2 + drivers to run 4 of them = idea for next experiment - what happens when running 4 x 2gb 4870X2's on a 32bit windows..

I don't think your NF2 board supports crossfire (or even pcie :p)
Posted by joe pineapples - Wed 23 Jul 2008 10:07
I'm hoping these 4870 1gig cards will be the sweet spot when gaming @1920x1200. I was looking at a 4870x2, but it looks more and more likey i would need a new PSU for that, adding another £80-£100 on top :-(.

Pretty suprised there hasent been any ‘early’ benchmarks for these, since the x2's were done a while back, and this card looks to be arriving a couple of weeks before those.:confused:

joe
Posted by kalniel - Wed 23 Jul 2008 10:23
joe pineapples;1479023
Pretty suprised there hasent been any ‘early’ benchmarks for these, since the x2's were done a while back, and this card looks to be arriving a couple of weeks before those.:confused:

joe
Companies want to pally up with AMD at the moment - they know they're in for the money this generation so the last thing they want to do is find themselves short on cards because they've broken NDA agreements.
Posted by joe pineapples - Wed 23 Jul 2008 10:38
kalniel
Companies want to pally up with AMD at the moment - they know they're in for the money this generation so the last thing they want to do is find themselves short on cards because they've broken NDA agreements.

I understand what you;re saying, but as a LOT of benchmarks were already released on different websites for the 4870x2's, i assumed that must have been given the green light by AMD/ATI. From this i drew the conclusion that maybe they had finally started to slacken off the NDA stuff (about time imo), and that the same would have followed with these 4870 1gig cards. And thats where i was confused. I guess only AMD know the method to their madness (so to speak).
Posted by kalniel - Wed 23 Jul 2008 10:48
AMD had given reviews permission to conduct 4 benchmarks (only), and people were asked not to talk about idle power draw (PP not implemented yet) or go into architectural details.

So it was more of a technology preview/demonstration, and direct from AMD themselves. A partner breaking NDA with their own version of products would be another matter (as far as relationship with AMD goes).
Posted by 20girls - Tue 29 Jul 2008 20:24
i like this one!!!! just the cooling system….

Hope more 1GB HD4870 coming out
Posted by dreddric - Fri 01 Aug 2008 11:28
Well someone has got their information wrong and I don't think it's Powercolor, their website is shows that this overclocked 4870 only has 512MB GDDR5 memory and not 1GB as reported on this news article.

*ww.powercolor.com/eng/products_features.asp?ProductID=2304

It is also on Overclockers UK as only having 512MB memory!

*ww.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-093-PC
Posted by stevie lee - Fri 01 Aug 2008 19:50
dreddric
Well someone has got their information wrong and I don't think it's Powercolor, their website is shows that this overclocked 4870 only has 512MB GDDR5 memory and not 1GB as reported on this news article.

*ww.powercolor.com/eng/products_features.asp?ProductID=2304

It is also on Overclockers UK as only having 512MB memory!

*ww.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-093-PC


thats because you are looking at the wrong one..

http://www.powercolor.com/eng/products_features.asp?ProductID=2253
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http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148105 £209.99

and if you insist on overclockers.co.uk
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-091-PC&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=939&name=Powercolor%20ATI%20Radeon%20HD%204870%201024MB%20GDDR5%20TV-Out/Dual%20DVI/HDMI%20(PCI-Express)%20-%20Retail £234.99


not on SCAN.co.uk yet.. might be in week or so.. NDA's n that sort o' thing??
Posted by dreddric - Mon 04 Aug 2008 09:49
stevie lee;1488086
thats because you are looking at the wrong one..

http://www.powercolor.com/eng/products_features.asp?ProductID=2253
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http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148105 £209.99

and if you insist on overclockers.co.uk
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-091-PC&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=939&name=Powercolor%20ATI%20Radeon%20HD%204870%201024MB%20GDDR5%20TV-Out/Dual%20DVI/HDMI%20(PCI-Express)%20-%20Retail £234.99


not on SCAN.co.uk yet.. might be in week or so.. NDA's n that sort o' thing??


I'm not looking at the wrong one, you are. The cards you have linked to are just standard 750MHz Core with 1GB 3600Mhz, where as this article is talking about the factory overclocked 800Mhz Core with 1GB 3800Mhz. It's wrong and only comes with 512MB 3800Mhz as per my original post. :)