It is soon going to be faster to dump big files onto storage and walk them over to another machine than it is to use the Gigabit networking still standard on PCs :(

DanceswithUnix
It is soon going to be faster to dump big files onto storage and walk them over to another machine than it is to use the Gigabit networking still standard on PCs :(

youp, something id not right with ethernet standards …
I mean you should now get mobo with 10Gbps easily but hey, show me a router that supports it in reasonable money.

DanceswithUnix
It is soon going to be faster to dump big files onto storage and walk them over to another machine than it is to use the Gigabit networking still standard on PCs :(

yeah the issue is that for whatever reason the majority of motherboard manufacturers still seem hell bent on limiting us to 1gigabit networking… at the very least it needs to be 2.5 or even better 5gigabit as standard now.

Just Need Cat7 Cables to run the 10gbit, just wish they would start offering the routers/switches for as well as well as Fiber Modem.

QuorTek
Just Need Cat7 Cables to run the 10gbit, just wish they would start offering the routers/switches for as well as well as Fiber Modem.

Only over long distances. My house isn't that large :)

2.5GbE is very easy on cable spec.

DanceswithUnix

QuorTek
Just Need Cat7 Cables to run the 10gbit, just wish they would start offering the routers/switches for as well as well as Fiber Modem.

Only over long distances. My house isn't that large :)

2.5GbE is very easy on cable spec.

No real price difference on the cables CAT(X), also if you do use a low cat cable you can no matter what not exceed eg. 100mbit.. found that out when could get fiber..

DanceswithUnix
Only over long distances. My house isn't that large :)

2.5GbE is very easy on cable spec.

Nor mine. I'm also not convinced, for the vast majority of home users, why exceeding gigabit networks is so essential?

As for these WD drives, am I missing something here. The Samsung T7 drive I bought a little while ago does

- Up to 9 times faster than external hard drives with read/write speeds up to 1050MB/s and 1000MB

…. and AES 256-bit encryption. With fingerprint security. And at least for the 500GB drive, was a bit cheaper too. It's pretty rare that I get anywhere near pushing that to its limits. If ever.

Saracen999
Nor mine. I'm also not convinced, for the vast majority of home users, why exceeding gigabit networks is so essential?

Gigabit Internet connections have been around for some time and getting more popular, but exceeding that speed is difficult if no-one can plug into the router. Even many wireless access points can in theory exceed a gigabit in throughput. USB connections are up to 10Gbps, even a single old rotating rust disk can saturate gigabit on a big read or write.

Networking is a bottleneck, and it is getting worse.

Do they promise it will never be shingled SSD?

AndyM2012
Do they promise it will never be shingled SSD?

SSD is not shingled.
That is mechanical only.

DanceswithUnix
Gigabit Internet connections have been around for some time and getting more popular, but exceeding that speed is difficult if no-one can plug into the router. Even many wireless access points can in theory exceed a gigabit in throughput. USB connections are up to 10Gbps, even a single old rotating rust disk can saturate gigabit on a big read or write.

Networking is a bottleneck, and it is getting worse.

Yeah. I'm not really questioning that, though. I was more querying what usage casev“the vast majority of home users” have that needs it.

Some will, sure. But that “vast majority”?

What I was getting at is that for home users (business use is a different case) there has to be a sufficiently large market for manufacturers to spend time and money developing, and stocking, a router capable of doing that.

It's one thing sticking (for example) a thousand pound price tag on a business device where there's a case for it (and a tax writeoff), and doing it for the domestic mass market.

I get that there's a case for it being possible, but I'm struggling with why “the vast majority of home users” would find it necessary, especially as it would no doubt involve a premium, and most home users are resistant to buying stuff without a very clear justification …. and often, not even then.

AndyM2012
Do they promise it will never be shingled SSD?

I think the equivalent is the lesser performing chips like the Samsung QVO drives (vs EVO). At least for the time being they are being honest about it and labelling it as such.