The 3800XT looks to be the only one with a 200MHz increase for turbo; 3900XT and 3600XT are just 100MHz… will be interesting if they can hold the boost clocks longer too.

Considering the non XT versions are a lot cheaper than their release price, who's going to pay between $40 and $80 for a potential 100Mhz-200Mhz single core boost? Or to put it another way, up to 3% more single core performance for around 20% more money.

Ryhl
Considering the non XT versions are a lot cheaper than their release price, who's going to pay between $40 and $80 for a potential 100Mhz-200Mhz single core boost? Or to put it another way, up to 3% more single core performance for around 20% more money.

Someone who will wait another few months for them to drop a bit and have it as the last possible upgrade for their X370 mobo? i.e someone like me :)

A 3800XT or 3900XT will be a mighty upgrade from my 1700X

Based on this I think I'll see what deals I can get on a 3700. ( was planning on getting a 3600 for the “family” pc)

KrisWragg
A 3800XT or 3900XT will be a mighty upgrade from my 1700X

If I was on a 1700X, I definitely wouldn't be considering an upgrade yet. Not unless you really need the additional power for some actual reason.
The 1700X is still a super relevant chip with plenty of life left.

Seriously, I think it could be time to upgrade my long serving 3770k soon, the upgrade itch is strong!

KrisWragg
Someone who will wait another few months for them to drop a bit and have it as the last possible upgrade for their X370 mobo? i.e someone like me :)

A 3800XT or 3900XT will be a mighty upgrade from my 1700X

This is where I am. But, if I can get out another year from my 1700 (no ryzen why not tbh), then I may consider a platform upgrade to a 4000 series and new motherboard, rather than get a 3700X(T) for my 370x. That said, I've also seen some decent x470 mobo/Ryzen 3900 bundles, which are also tempting.

With such a minor difference between these and the original chips, surely they have to be within a few bucks of the 3900x, 3800x or 3600x at the time to have any real value at all?

I am hoping this causes a 3900x sell off, would be a nice slot in for my 3700x.

Ryhl
Considering the non XT versions are a lot cheaper than their release price, who's going to pay between $40 and $80 for a potential 100Mhz-200Mhz single core boost? Or to put it another way, up to 3% more single core performance for around 20% more money.

That single core performance should drag up the performance when a few cores are active, will be interesting to see by how much in the games benchmarks where that will matter.

DanceswithUnix
That single core performance should drag up the performance when a few cores are active, will be interesting to see by how much in the games benchmarks where that will matter.

How much difference is 100Mhz really going to make in reality? Most modern games are going to utilize more than a couple of cores so the boost speeds probably won't make much if any difference at all.

Add in the fact Ryzen 3000 doesn't boost to the advertised speeds for any sort of sustained period and you have to wonder what benefit 100Mhz is going to bring.

A lot of people say the 3600x is not worth the extra over the 3600, but at least that has a better base clock, a better boost clock, and a better cooler for the money.

Rather underwhelming, really. It's better than nothing, but I agree with Ryhl, I wouldn't pay a premium over the regular 3600X/3800X/3900X.

On the whole, I think the 3700X is still my preferred chip should I choose to upgrade this year.

Why does anyone give a damn about boost figures,anyway?

They are a completely worthless metric, the only figure that matters is the sustained core frequency under load.

What the hell am I supposed to accomplish at 4.7Ghz in the 10 seconds it stays at 4.7Ghz before dropping back to the real frequency of these Ryzen CPU's ~4.2 to 4.3Gh.

Core2Extreme
Rather underwhelming, really. It's better than nothing, but I agree with Ryhl, I wouldn't pay a premium over the regular 3600X/3800X/3900X.

On the whole, I think the 3700X is still my preferred chip should I choose to upgrade this year.

3800x is so close in price these days I would get that. I got my 3700x when there was quite a difference.

Interesting pricing… the 3900XT doesn't appear to include a cooler, yet is $50+ dollars more for a tiny clock boost. I guess we'll have to wait to see benchmarks, but I feel like this is mostly just a very minor flex on Intel. I'm looking to replace a 1700X on a really nice X370 board (I knew I'd want to upgrade, and clock speeds matter for gaming), and since B550 boards seem so expensive, 4000 series chips appear delayed, I'll probably just get a 3900X now, although depending on real world pricing, maybe an R7 chip might work better.

Bagpuss
What the hell am I supposed to accomplish at 4.7Ghz in the 10 seconds it stays at 4.7Ghz before dropping back to the real frequency of these Ryzen CPU's ~4.2 to 4.3Gh.

Ryzen boost isn't time limited.

Hoonigan
If I was on a 1700X, I definitely wouldn't be considering an upgrade yet. Not unless you really need the additional power for some actual reason.
The 1700X is still a super relevant chip with plenty of life left.

Agreed

but if you need some extra bandwidth from your ram (if you have nice ram) a 3 series over a 1 series is notably better

I wonder if the higher clocks mean:
1.) higher all core overclocks and stability
2.) lower (clock relative) voltages
3.) lower (clock relative) temps
???

I would like very much to hear some suggestions on ASUS ROG STRIX B-350 GAMING/Ryzen 5 3600, CPU upgrade

John_Amstrad
I would like very much to hear some suggestions on ASUS ROG STRIX B-350 GAMING/Ryzen 5 3600, CPU upgrade

Are you upgrading that board with an existing CPU to a 3600?

If you don't own a board, I wouldn't be buying a B350 these days.

DanceswithUnix

John_Amstrad
I would like very much to hear some suggestions on ASUS ROG STRIX B-350 GAMING/Ryzen 5 3600, CPU upgrade

Are you upgrading that board with an existing CPU to a 3600?

If you don't own a board, I wouldn't be buying a B350 these days.

Sry, let me put it right: I already have, for some time now, an ASUS ROG STRIX B-350 GAMING/Ryzen 5 2600,and I'm thinking of a CPU upgrade only. What would you suggest considering Price/Value?

John_Amstrad
Sry, let me put it right: I already have, for some time now, an ASUS ROG STRIX B-350 GAMING/Ryzen 5 2600,and I'm thinking of a CPU upgrade only. What would you suggest considering Price/Value?

Well as a general rule only upgrade when something feels slow, so where are you finding performance problems? What programs do you run?

The 3600 is an awesome chip, I have one running a VR setup quite happily, but from a 2600 I have to wonder how much of an upgrade it will feel.

DanceswithUnix

John_Amstrad
Sry, let me put it right: I already have, for some time now, an ASUS ROG STRIX B-350 GAMING/Ryzen 5 2600,and I'm thinking of a CPU upgrade only. What would you suggest considering Price/Value?

Well as a general rule only upgrade when something feels slow, so where are you finding performance problems? What programs do you run?

The 3600 is an awesome chip, I have one running a VR setup quite happily, but from a 2600 I have to wonder how much of an upgrade it will feel.

I don't have any performance problems but due to my work that includes highly intensive arithmetic calculations, I would like to speed-up things, say 40-50%. So, the question is (keeping budjet low) what is the optimal solution for this…a 3700 or maybe a Threadripper 1920X + MB?

John_Amstrad
I don't have any performance problems but due to my work that includes highly intensive arithmetic calculations, I would like to speed-up things, say 40-50%. So, the question is (keeping budjet low) what is the optimal solution for this…a 3700 or maybe a Threadripper 1920X + MB?

Possibly depends on the nature of your calculations, if they use AVX256 then you want to be on a Zen 2 rather than an old Threadripper for example as Zen 2 doubled the performance for those instructions. If they are integer, then architecture changes won't have helped much.

Going from 6 cores to 8 is a nice 33% increase off the bat, so a 3700X is worth a look. Increased cache size and higher clock speeds will hopefully nudge you the rest of the way.

Basically, get the biggest CPU in your budget. 3900X is what you really want, but those are a bit pricey. 3800X isn't much faster than a 3700X, and I doubt anything slower than a 3700X is worth spending on.

DanceswithUnix

John_Amstrad
I don't have any performance problems but due to my work that includes highly intensive arithmetic calculations, I would like to speed-up things, say 40-50%. So, the question is (keeping budjet low) what is the optimal solution for this…a 3700 or maybe a Threadripper 1920X + MB?

Possibly depends on the nature of your calculations, if they use AVX256 then you want to be on a Zen 2 rather than an old Threadripper for example as Zen 2 doubled the performance for those instructions. If they are integer, then architecture changes won't have helped much.

Going from 6 cores to 8 is a nice 33% increase off the bat, so a 3700X is worth a look. Increased cache size and higher clock speeds will hopefully nudge you the rest of the way.

Basically, get the biggest CPU in your budget. 3900X is what you really want, but those are a bit pricey. 3800X isn't much faster than a 3700X, and I doubt anything slower than a 3700X is worth spending on.

Thank you very much, you were very helpful

This makes the 3700X a much worse value, I've already seen the 3900X and 3800X get pushed a lot closer to its price point, nevermind the XT variants themselves. It's a good but expensive time to be a PC enthusiast, the upgrade war is back on