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Posted by Friesiansam - Fri 29 May 2020 16:37
As I will be staying with Ryzen 7, most likely 8 cores.
Posted by Ttaskmaster - Fri 29 May 2020 16:43
Well, the ‘trend-setters’ who generally pass their old stuff off onto me are all gunning for the 6-core 10600 CPUs these days.
I'm sure there are reasons, beyond being tired of faffing around with overclocking and never actually gaming any more, but those who have them seem positively delighted so far….

Me, I'm happy with my 8-core 5960X, as it seems to run just fine at 4.6GHz and you need HWInfo to know that it's even awake.
Posted by mikeo - Fri 29 May 2020 16:49
Can't see any point in upgrading my OC'd I7-8700K anytime soon. Don't need the extra cores and I'm not into willy waving these days.
Posted by judge56988 - Fri 29 May 2020 17:01
Keeping my 5820K for a while longer so 6 cores 12 threads. It's a nice compromise; most of my work is AutoCAD so better to have a higher speed than lots of cores I think but they are good for occasional video editing and transcoding. Next investment will probably be a couple of 2TB SSDs to replace HDD rather than a new CPU.
Posted by Saracen999 - Fri 29 May 2020 17:04
i doubt I 'll buy another desktop.
Posted by [GSV]Trig - Fri 29 May 2020 17:06
I'm on a 1600AF at the mo, so have 6, and came from an i7 with 4, where I go next, no idea, given my i7 was a 3rd gen that I'd had for, well, when did they come out?
Given CPU's used to be about the Mhz, then at a point it was about cores, by the time I upgrade again it might not even be about cores anymore but more about efficiency or something else…

Failing that, if my B450M does get Zen3 support then when I can get a decent CPU for a decent price, and actually need it, I might get something else, Ryzen 9 would last a while..
But then we also have new GPU's coming soon, and that's probably the next upgrade for me i reckon..
Posted by Spreadie - Fri 29 May 2020 17:06
Saracen999
i doubt I 'll buy another desktpp.

You going with one of those Ikea kitchen counter type deals then? :P
Posted by DavDarkelf - Fri 29 May 2020 17:57
I'm on a Ryzen 5 1600X at the moment. I'll probably move from a 6 core to an 8 core processor in the future. Just as long as the clock speed is the same or greater than a future 6 core. Probably stick with AMD as well as Intel just is too hot and draws too much power in their current CPU's.
Posted by LSG501 - Fri 29 May 2020 18:22
Minimum of 16c/32t.. but then I'm not using my pc primarily for gaming.

I'd maybe push to 32c/64t if the overall tdp/power draw on threadripper and extra cost of the motherboards comes down with the next version. While I do like the idea of more cores, there's a point where, at least for me, that the cost of running the system outweigh the benefits.
Posted by AndyM2012 - Fri 29 May 2020 18:34
My brain runs on just the one core; if the games get too many cores for the AI opponents to run on I will lose even more. My next computer had better use any extra cores it gets for bling and not for defeating me, or else… mwahahaha!
Posted by alpha channel - Fri 29 May 2020 20:00
I've jus… well almost built my new machine so the answer is 12 cores/24 threads (it's up and running I'm just waiting on a more permanent PSU, a back order, a couple of exhaust fans and dust filter before I do a small 92mm sized case mod for a new CPU inlet).

I do occasional freelance After Effects, video editing, 3D and extensive 2D… and I do that lot for fun as well (and I'm itching to get my hands on the Unreal 5 engine as well).
Posted by Saracen999 - Fri 29 May 2020 20:03
Spreadie
You going with one of those Ikea kitchen counter type deals then? :P
I'm currently in the middle of getting rid of most of my old desktops/towers (keeping one for legacy stuff) and will probably manage with a Dell laptop, MS Surface Pro (which I'm currently using), and a phone. That should do everything I need, and frees up a lot of space. i.e. two spare rooms. In order to buy another desktop, I'd need to have something I really wanted to do, that required it. After some 30 years off a home full of PCs, it'll be nice for them not to domminate. Makes it easier to sell the house, too, if it doesn't look like a PC showroom. ;)
Posted by rs4847 - Fri 29 May 2020 20:21
As the next gen consoles are going to be 8c/16t I will probably end up with 12 to 16 cores as I tend to keep my main desktop for years without upgrading the board CPU and RAM.
Posted by Terbinator - Fri 29 May 2020 20:23
8c/16t minimum to line up with the new consoles.
Posted by BigBANGerZ - Fri 29 May 2020 20:59
Terbinator
8c/16t minimum to line up with the new consoles.

I agree but if the exploitative GPU pricing we've seen in recent years particularly with Turing doesn't substantially improve (please take note reviewers) then I see no reason to build a new PC for years if ever.
Posted by lodore - Fri 29 May 2020 21:04
At least 8 cores maybe more. I have had 4 cores twice now thanks to Intel having the monopoly to long.
Posted by simonpreston - Fri 29 May 2020 21:24
I'm on 8c/16t, with a Ryzen 1700, anyway.

What happens next will depend on what the next gen of Ryzen CPUs do. If 12/24 becomes affordable, then I'd look to upgrade the motherboard and CPU to that. If not, then I'll upgrade my current setup with a 3700X/3800X depending on price difference at the time. So 8/16 minimum, regardless.
Posted by Gentle Viking - Fri 29 May 2020 22:25
12/24 in a Threadripper right now, would like to move to 32/64 some day in the future.
BUT ! That might not happen, as regardless next time as mt TR4 board are dropped and my only option are #2 gen threadrippers, byt net time gen 3 - 4 processors ( AMD ) might be my target, and that mean a new motherboard if i stay with Threadrippers or even that too if something replace AM4.
And of course too if Intel chips are the smarter choice by then.

It is however going to be some years, CUZ on a pension i cant update as i like to anymore.
Hell i might even downgrade too as the demanding stuff i do ( video editing ) can still be done on a smaller kit and time is something i got plenty off, and the video i do make are often short clips and so fairly fast to render anyway.
And as no one seem to make the games i like to play, and i dont seem to be willing to make do with what they do make, then gaming are more or less off the table.
Posted by 3dcandy - Fri 29 May 2020 23:29
8c/16t at moment - but no upgrade planned for a few years….
So as it appears to be going next really should be a 12c/24t minimum I reckon
Posted by big_hairy_rob - Sat 30 May 2020 00:10
zero idea and probably not my biggest decision factor. I tend to keep the same platform as long as it functions and is practicable, so should last for several (unknown core change) generations yet.
Posted by fail_quail - Sat 30 May 2020 03:05
Upgraded* to a 3700x recently, specifically chose it over the higher core count Ryzen 9 CPUs as i really rarely needed all the cores/threads i had on my 1700, So upgrading to the same core count but with higher frequencies and IPC made more sense to me.

(I do some video editing here and there, but not often)

As things stand at the moment, 8C16T is more than enough for gaming and non-specialist use cases, so i might stick with it again next time. All depends on how multithreaded software gets in the future really…

*sidegrade, i built myself a new NAS and used my current CPU/mobo as a base, hence the excuse to upgrade ;)
Posted by Korrorra - Sat 30 May 2020 06:02
I'll likely stick with 8/16 combo. If the price is good for a 32/64 then I may do that. I'm waiting for AMD Ryzen 5000 though.
Posted by 3dcandy - Sat 30 May 2020 11:05
judge56988
Keeping my 5820K for a while longer so 6 cores 12 threads. It's a nice compromise; most of my work is AutoCAD so better to have a higher speed than lots of cores I think but they are good for occasional video editing and transcoding. Next investment will probably be a couple of 2TB SSDs to replace HDD rather than a new CPU.

I found more benefits from going decent nvme ssd than 2 extra cores and 4 threads
Posted by will19565 - Sat 30 May 2020 11:24
6c/12t R5 3600
Posted by DevDrake - Sat 30 May 2020 13:24
I am still rolling on i7 3770K - 4 cores / 8 threads.
In particular it still does the job (in 4k) paired with 1080Ti.
Maybe Cyberpunk or a some new monitor release will change my view (4k 120Hz), but for now I am cool.
The next PC i will assemble (if) will have to be at last 12/24.
Posted by ik9000 - Sat 30 May 2020 13:43
I have 12/24 in my new build so it will need to be better than that. The socket definitely does 16/32 and it remains to be seen if next gen will expand on that or just offer clock boosts. for most stuff though I'm still on 4/8 s1156 - it just so much quieter and more stable!
Posted by Euphonium - Sat 30 May 2020 20:21
Minimum 8, preferably 12+
I've been on a quad-core i7-3770k for about 8 years and HD video transcoding is painful.
From everything I'm reading, as long as I've got a good GPU (currently a GTX980Ti) I'm not going to see a meaningful difference in 1080p60 gaming with any modern CPU so the extra cores or Ryzen are worth way more than slightly higher clocks on Intel
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Sat 30 May 2020 20:50
More.
Posted by meuvoy - Sat 30 May 2020 21:05
8/16 is my plan. But I'd gladly take 12/24 or 16/32 if I can.
Posted by roger that - Sat 30 May 2020 21:47
like most R7 8/16, going from an i5 3rd gen 4/4
Posted by philehidiot - Sat 30 May 2020 21:49
I went from four cores with no HT to 12 with HT. The single threaded benchmarks are a little bit higher than my overclocked last CPU (which was crippled by the last lot of Intel security mitigations) and the multithreaded ones are another world. Finally multicore stuff has taken off and it's great to not be sandbagged by Intel holding back year after year and making the only reason to upgrade issues of their own making.

It's also very nice to give a VM 6 cores and the host system have no effects whatsoever and still have plenty more cores left over for the other VMs.

Can't see me upgrading for some time. What I don't want is the relentless race for numbers of cores to take over at the expense of all else. Like the GHz war, the motherboard phases war, etc.
Posted by Core2Extreme - Sun 31 May 2020 00:01
Absolute minimum? 6. Partly because my laptop (8750H) has six cores, so I couldn't see buying a desktop with any fewer. But also because there can be some really good deals on hex-core CPUs. I very nearly upgraded to the Ryzen 5 1600 (non-AF) when it was $80 at the local store. Almost wish I had. If the 3600 is going for that when I'm ready to upgrade, it will be hard to pass on it.

Most likely, though, I'll go with 8. Seems a good compromise between price, multithreaded performance, and single-threaded clocks. And I tend to keep my desktop CPUs a long time, with the current one already at 8.5 years, so over the lifetime of the CPU the price difference is not that great.

Twelve is a possibility, too, particularly if my Sandy Bridge lasts until Ryzen 4000 is out. The Ryzen 9 3900 (non-X) is an appealing configuration, and if something like that hits the $330 price point, it'll be a tough decision between 8 and 12 cores.

Not that I actually *need* more than 4, but when I don't use them, the spare is donated to the World Community Grid. At least, that's the justification for all the extra horsepower.
Posted by markzero - Sun 31 May 2020 04:36
Right now I don't see going less than 6 cores again, with 12 threads. On the other hand, up until recently I didn't think I'd want a car with less than a V6 engine again, but now I'm thinking about HEVs and BEVs. In either case, it depends on whether I can get the responsiveness I'm used to, with better energy use.
Posted by nar53 - Sun 31 May 2020 07:53
My current CPU has eight cores and I don't have plans to upgrade anytime soon I'll have to see what's available when the time to upgrade next comes around.
Posted by Spreadie - Sun 31 May 2020 09:03
Currently on 6c/12t, so probably 12c/24t.

Eventually.

There's no rush, unless I spy an absolute bargain.
Posted by Spreadie - Sun 31 May 2020 09:09
Core2Extreme
The Ryzen 9 3900 (non-X) is an appealing configuration, and if something like that hits the $330 price point, it'll be a tough decision between 8 and 12 cores.

There isn't a “non-X” 3900.
Posted by ik9000 - Sun 31 May 2020 12:21
Spreadie
There isn't a “non-X” 3900.

yes there is but it's only available to OEMs: https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-pro-3900
Posted by SlickR - Sun 31 May 2020 14:45
8 cores for sure, all the next gen consoles utilize 8 ryzen cores, so for me the next standard is 8 cores. I'll be skipping 6 cores and going straight to 8 cores.
Posted by MrJim - Sun 31 May 2020 16:12
ik9000
yes there is but it's only available to OEMs: https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-pro-3900

Interesting - that's the only locked Ryzen CPU I've ever heard of.
Posted by Terbinator - Sun 31 May 2020 16:23
These QOTW could really do with a poll.
Posted by ik9000 - Sun 31 May 2020 17:43
MrJim
Interesting - that's the only locked Ryzen CPU I've ever heard of.

there's a 3700 version too. Also OEM only. https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-pro-3700
Posted by Duckboy79 - Sun 31 May 2020 17:59
As soon as there's a cheap Ryzen 5ghz 8 core 16 thread chip I'll upgrade!
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Sun 31 May 2020 19:16
ik9000
yes there is but it's only available to OEMs: https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-pro-3900

You can buy it from AWD-IT. I even posted it in the Deals section:
https://forums.hexus.net/retail-therapy-bargains/414278-ryzen-3900-non-x-msi-b450-tomahawk-419-99-delivered-awd.html

In fact you can actually add the Ryzen 9 3900 as a bundle deal to most of the motherboards they sell!
Posted by ohmaheid - Sun 31 May 2020 19:38
I just built a new ryzen 3600 based system, so it's going to be another 5 years before I upgrade…UNLESS a 3900x becomes a bargain-bucket item in a year or so.
12 cores would be nice…Oh and a 1tb nvme as a christmas present.
Posted by micles5 - Sun 31 May 2020 23:24
Now i got ryzen 2600. I may upgrade it to ryzen 4600 to use most of my b450 motherboard but no rush and no need
Posted by loccothan - Mon 01 Jun 2020 08:41
After this one i will go for 12/24 or 16/32
But i will wait for PCIe Gen5 and DDR5.
What i have will be enough for gaming for years to come.
Posted by Iota - Mon 01 Jun 2020 08:51
No idea, I've gone from 2 physical cores, to 4 physical cores, to 8 physical cores. So I'm guessing when I do upgrade it'll be 16 physical cores. As to when I upgrade, that depends on when I need to upgrade.
Posted by cheesemp - Mon 01 Jun 2020 16:23
Just upgraded from 4 (i5 3570k) to 6 (Ryzen 3600 with 12 threads). I suspect in 2 or 3 years I shall stick a ryzen 4000 series with 8 cores in. I think it'll be diminishing returns over 8 cores for a while.
Posted by 3dcandy - Mon 01 Jun 2020 16:31
cheesemp
Just upgraded from 4 (i5 3570k) to 6 (Ryzen 3600 with 12 threads). I suspect in 2 or 3 years I shall stick a ryzen 4000 series with 8 cores in. I think it'll be diminishing returns over 8 cores for a while.

Depends… a fair bit of my software (video rendering being the main one) loves as many cores as you can throw at it
;)
Posted by MrJim - Mon 01 Jun 2020 16:57
cheesemp
Just upgraded from 4 (i5 3570k) to 6 (Ryzen 3600 with 12 threads). I suspect in 2 or 3 years I shall stick a ryzen 4000 series with 8 cores in. I think it'll be diminishing returns over 8 cores for a while.

You need to update your system details in your Hexus profile! ;)
Posted by beholder - Mon 01 Jun 2020 16:58
Anxiously waiting for the new Ryzen Refresh CPUs and the respective B550 boards.

I currently have a Ryzen 5 2600X 6-core.

Planning to buy a 12-core 3900XT.

What's not to like, they'll make a good product even better, happy days!
Posted by ik9000 - Mon 01 Jun 2020 23:46
MrJim
You need to update your system details in your Hexus profile! ;)

don't we all? Although mine will stay as is until I actually stop using this machine!
Posted by Output - Tue 02 Jun 2020 01:18
As I've only had my build for a few months, the minimum core-count of my next CPU would definitely have to be 16 as that's what I'm already at now. But, that would most likely only be if I was upgrading to a newer chip on AM4 too.

After AM4 however, I'd probably be aiming for a doubling of cores to feel it properly justified, so 32.

ik9000
don't we all? Although mine will stay as is until I actually stop using this machine!
Not me, I updated mine once my new build was up-and-running. :)
Posted by ET3D - Tue 02 Jun 2020 09:34
I might upgrade my Ryzen 3 2200G to the rumoured 6C/12T Ryzen 5 4400G, if it materialised as described and is priced at $150 or less. The 2200G is serving admirably (been playing Minecraft Dungeons with the kid on it, and he's also played Fortnite on it), but the 4400G should be a significant upgrade on both the CPU and GPU fronts.
Posted by Presto86 - Mon 08 Jun 2020 18:59
I think my next cpu core count will be 12 or 16. Will depend on price
Posted by ik9000 - Mon 08 Jun 2020 19:18
Presto86
I think my next cpu core count will be 12 or 16. Will depend on price

well 12 cores is £450 and 16 cores is £750 so which do you prefer?
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Mon 08 Jun 2020 19:29
ik9000
well 12 cores is £450 and 16 cores is £750 so which do you prefer?

I linked to the Ryzen 9 3900 - you could get with a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max for under £450.
Posted by Chris Mahon - Sat 20 Jun 2020 02:20
I have the Ryzen 7 3700X installed, partner that with a Gigabyte AORUS 1 TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD, 16 GB Corsair LPX (2 x 8GB) DDR 4 3600GHz, Gigabyte Aorus Master X570 Motherboard, Corsair CP-9020074-UK HX1000i 1000 W 80 Plus Platinum Certified 140 mm Fan Thermally Controlled Power Supply Unit - Black, NZXT H510 Elite - Premium Mid-Tower ATX Case PC Gaming Case Tempered Glass (White), Logitech Z623 2.1 Speaker system and throw in a pair of Sennheiser HD 598 SE, which tend to bring the music to life. I will not be changing this set up. Oh, yes, nearly forgot, the small matter of the GPU it's a Sapphire 11265-01-20G Radeon NITRO+ RX 580 8GB GDDR5 DUAL HDMI.
Posted by DemonAndrew - Sat 20 Jun 2020 19:28
At least 8 IMO, although by the time I get my new PC (will still be a few more years), 8 will probably be child's play. How fast and affordable they manage to get those cores will be the important thing though.
Posted by Chris Mahon - Mon 22 Jun 2020 09:20
Possibly 16, probably 12. AMD Ryzen 9 of course.