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Posted by Tabbykatze - Fri 01 May 2020 11:26
If the claimed increase in performance is true, I'm very glad Qualcomm is being knocked down a peg!
Posted by Spud1 - Fri 01 May 2020 11:47
Nice figures. This has always been ATI's sweet spot well before they were bought by AMD, so it's good to keep the trend going. The number of consoles/gadgets/devices powered by ATI/AMD for the graphics chip is quite impressive.
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Fri 01 May 2020 11:59
Tabbykatze
If the claimed increase in performance is true, I'm very glad Qualcomm is being knocked down a peg!

The irony is Qualcomm has Adreno graphics,which is a anagram of Radeon!
Posted by Output - Fri 01 May 2020 12:12
CAT-THE-FIFTH
The irony is Qualcomm has Adreno graphics,which is a anagram of Radeon!

I had somehow completely missed that, now it seems so obvious. I guess it's because I wasn't looking for it though that it didn't jump out at me.
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Fri 01 May 2020 14:19
Output
I had somehow completely missed that, now it seems so obvious. I guess it's because I wasn't looking for it though that it didn't jump out at me.

ATI sold their mobile graphics division to Qualcomm a long time ago.
Posted by QuorTek - Fri 01 May 2020 14:23
I guess AMD is back in business.. maybe cheaper phones now too?
Posted by Output - Fri 01 May 2020 14:53
CAT-THE-FIFTH
ATI sold their mobile graphics division to Qualcomm a long time ago.

Ah, that explains it then. I hadn't been aware that they had ever had a mobile graphics division.
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Fri 01 May 2020 14:58
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Ah, that explains it then. I hadn't been aware that they had ever had a mobile graphics division.

ATI Imageon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageon

Actually it seems it was AMD who sold them to Qualcomm after they bought up ATI,which in hindsite was a shortsighted move!
Posted by kompukare - Fri 01 May 2020 15:25
Naturally there are anagram generators on the Internet.
https://ingesanagram.appspot.com/
This one is backed by dictionaries:
“Create anagrams in Danish, English, French, German, Italian, Norwegian (bokmål and nynorsk), Spanish or Swedish.”
My favourite one is this French word
aronde 1. (archaic) swallow (bird)
Fast and light for mobile phones?
Or Italian
denaro 1. money (from Latin dēnārius as any Asterix reader should know)
For what Samsung will have to hand over to AMD?
Posted by Yoyoyo69 - Fri 01 May 2020 18:13
After AMD bought ATI, they were in a tight position.

They seemed the mobile sector dead weight (this was just before mobile sector really took off with smart phones).

In hindsight, they would have been mega rich now, but can't turn back time or see future.
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Fri 01 May 2020 18:42
Yoyoyo69
In hindsight, they would have been mega rich now, but can't turn back time or see future.

Possibly, but you can't do everything and perhaps Qualcomm made good use of the IP because it was a key part of their core product.

Compare that to Nvidia who have been failing to sell Tegra chips in significant quantity for a long time now. Other than the Switch, I don't think any of the Tegra products really took off (though I have a few, and they were all pretty good to use, even the HTC One-S wasn't bad though it did get rather hot).
Posted by Yoyoyo69 - Fri 01 May 2020 19:25
DanceswithUnix
Yoyoyo69
In hindsight, they would have been mega rich now, but can't turn back time or see future.

Possibly, but you can't do everything and perhaps Qualcomm made good use of the IP because it was a key part of their core product.

Compare that to Nvidia who have been failing to sell Tegra chips in significant quantity for a long time now. Other than the Switch, I don't think any of the Tegra products really took off (though I have a few, and they were all pretty good to use, even the HTC One-S wasn't bad though it did get rather hot).

Yeah, there's that too. ATI obviously suffered too as resources had to be stretched far too thin, across various markets.

Intel almost killed them too with their illegal practices, but that's a whole separate story.
Posted by yeeeeman - Sun 03 May 2020 10:53
It depends on the power consumption.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Sun 03 May 2020 11:47
yeeeeman
It depends on the power consumption.

In the mobile space, it has to be equal or better than what it replaced
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Sun 03 May 2020 16:47
Tabbykatze
In the mobile space, it has to be equal or better than what it replaced

Indeed. There is a reason why Nvidia's Tegra failed in phones. I had a white HTC One-S, and parts of the plastic case discoloured it got so hot :D
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Sun 03 May 2020 17:19
The Tegra SOCs were a node behind the competition IIRC,so consumed more power.
Posted by HacKage - Mon 04 May 2020 08:33
This would be a nice addition, but unfortunately recently the Exynos chips haven't been at the level of the Qualcomm chips performance wise, so I would like to see real world results.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Tue 05 May 2020 14:30
HacKage
This would be a nice addition, but unfortunately recently the Exynos chips haven't been at the level of the Qualcomm chips performance wise, so I would like to see real world results.

I think you're missing the part where the GPU component in question here is not an Exynos unit.
Posted by Output - Tue 05 May 2020 16:30
Tabbykatze
I think you're missing the part where the GPU component in question here is not an Exynos unit.

I think what was being suggested was that while an AMD GPU on Exynos is interesting, if Exynos can't measure up on the CPU side in comparison to Qualcomm, the superior GPU might not provide enough of an incentive for people to choose Samsung devices containing it.