Why do these thngs need to send all data back to the M/ship? Why cant it be stored and processed locally .. and better codecs could make a difference h264 vs h265 normally can reduce B/width by 50% for same quality.

persimmon
Why do these thngs need to send all data back to the M/ship? Why cant it be stored and processed locally .. and better codecs could make a difference h264 vs h265 normally can reduce B/width by 50% for same quality.

Because that means the hardware costs rocket up. Processing h265 on a device you'd need quite a speedy chip just for the processing

These are generally cloud cams, this mean people like Oogle can make money on you all the times instead of just when you buy the product.
So of course they have no interest in you storing your footage locally, on a build in memory card or your own NAS / NVR / DVR.
These come security cameras are nothing but ticks sucking you dry.

I would NEVER buy anything that needed cloud whatever to run, or a phone to set up / make it work.
PS: And then IOT get more underway they will come up with more data generating you need to store in the cloud too.
But you might be able by then to get free cloud with Oogle, if you say its okay for them to mine your footage / data for whatever they want to make you even more the product.

Yeah I've never understood anyone wanting to use a cloud to store anything,… its a security breach just waiting to happen.
Only good thing to come out of it is now and again we get to see some celeb naked after it's been hacked :D

it has a place for back-up provided its securely held. I would argue a corporate server can utilise far better security and fail-safe back-ups than I can muster up on some home server and my own efforts. That said I hesitate to trust it for anything sensitive/personal details etc.

Got to be honest, if I was going down the home security camera route I'd be looking at plain network camera's and a nas of somesort, then if I really wanted off site storage I'd setup some sort of remote backup.

I know for one thing, I wouldn't be paying for a service that is essentially just to run the cameras and can by the looks of it just override any of my settings at will….

I know I might be lucky but in ‘general terms’ I can't say I've seen any physically slower connections and any slowdowns I've seen on the web are primarily down to the site server struggling (tesco's etc is a perfect example)so I kind of find this a little funny.

We have all these network providers such as BT saying no issue with network capacity yet things keep getting ‘turned down’. I think we all know what the real reason is and it's more than likely more to do with them wanting to lower the load on their own infrastructure which in turn lowers their costs.

This also links in with my comments on faster broadband… what's the point in faster broadband if the places you're trying to get stuff from can't keep up.

LSG501
Got to be honest, if I was going down the home security camera route I'd be looking at plain network camera's and a nas of somesort, then if I really wanted off site storage I'd setup some sort of remote backup.

I know for one thing, I wouldn't be paying for a service that is essentially just to run the cameras and can by the looks of it just override any of my settings at will….

I know I might be lucky but in ‘general terms’ I can't say I've seen any physically slower connections and any slowdowns I've seen on the web are primarily down to the site server struggling (tesco's etc is a perfect example)so I kind of find this a little funny.

We have all these network providers such as BT saying no issue with network capacity yet things keep getting ‘turned down’. I think we all know what the real reason is and it's more than likely more to do with them wanting to lower the load on their own infrastructure which in turn lowers their costs.

This also links in with my comments on faster broadband… what's the point in faster broadband if the places you're trying to get stuff from can't keep up.

Joe Public doesn't want another box taking up room and using electricity and then the wires…
Believe me it really is that simple. Trying to sort out a livestreaming gig and the musicians are soooo far back in technology terms it's unreal

3dcandy
Joe Public doesn't want another box taking up room and using electricity and then the wires…

Then you could argue they don't need a security system. In all honesty unless you use battery powered (don't think there are solar powered ones) wifi cameras you're going to have more disruption fitting the cameras than one single box with at most 2 cables for storage ever could lol

3dcandy
Joe Public doesn't want another box taking up room and using electricity and then the wires…
Believe me it really is that simple. Trying to sort out a livestreaming gig and the musicians are soooo far back in technology terms it's unreal

can you blame them? It's all about analogue, tube valves and MIDI only just got it's first major overhaul from its conception in the 1970s IIRC.

ik9000
can you blame them? It's all about analogue, tube valves and MIDI only just got it's first major overhaul from its conception in the 1970s IIRC.

Oh no MIDI was conceived in 1982 by Dave Smith and the man from Roland…
LSG501 - less wires=good.
You can argue for 1 wire and that's it but 1 wire + a box etc. never seems to get past the wife ;)