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Posted by 3dcandy - Thu 23 Jan 2020 10:14
To be fair it's a really decent cooler….

Only a 65w 2600 here so no need, and that runs quiet already
Posted by Jonj1611 - Thu 23 Jan 2020 10:16
I haven't got one myself but before I got my cooler this was the one I was looking at, good performance and looks nice too
Posted by EvilCycle - Thu 23 Jan 2020 10:38
I do like the effort AMD have put into their coolers since releasing Ryzen, I remember back when I had an FX8350 I ran the stock cooler for about 2 days before the noise became unbearable whilst gaming, replaced it with a 212 Evo and now it is in my sons build paired with a 1060, still ticking along wonderfully for it's age.
Posted by GinoLatino - Thu 23 Jan 2020 11:07
Cool!
Posted by differentproduct - Thu 23 Jan 2020 11:47
A damn lottery if you get the one with more heatpipes?
Don't misunderstand it looks like a good change but give it a new name and code to distinguish it. You did the same with the Wraith Stealth except the newer one was worse, didn't find out until after I got it (for someone else).

If you don't want to name it then perhaps others will. This is the “Wraith Prism RGB LED +1 heatpipe”, or for short the Prism+1
Posted by 3dcandy - Thu 23 Jan 2020 18:43
AMD maybe better we're not going to tell you anyhoo Wraith Heatpipe +11 cooler with RGB
Posted by mattburnzy - Thu 23 Jan 2020 20:31
EvilCycle
I do like the effort AMD have put into their coolers since releasing Ryzen, I remember back when I had an FX8350 I ran the stock cooler for about 2 days before the noise became unbearable whilst gaming, replaced it with a 212 Evo and now it is in my sons build paired with a 1060, still ticking along wonderfully for it's age.

Still running an FX8350, 8 year old cpu has legs.
Posted by Rubarb - Thu 23 Jan 2020 22:00
Actually looks like a decent improvement for a change, another nail in the coffin for intel maybe?
think they have had the same fans on the same cpu heatsink since 775 sockets, yeah I know some had a lump of copper in the middle but hey it was a naff upgrade at best.
Posted by mtyson - Fri 24 Jan 2020 22:27
AMD is saying that 6x heatpipe Wraith Prisms are counterfeit. Link
Posted by philehidiot - Sat 25 Jan 2020 13:54
mattburnzy
EvilCycle
I do like the effort AMD have put into their coolers since releasing Ryzen, I remember back when I had an FX8350 I ran the stock cooler for about 2 days before the noise became unbearable whilst gaming, replaced it with a 212 Evo and now it is in my sons build paired with a 1060, still ticking along wonderfully for it's age.

Still running an FX8350, 8 year old cpu has legs.

Interesting thought - I wonder if the current mainstream push towards MOAR CORES will mean that older AMD CPUs from the days of “throw more cores at the problem” will be better now than they otherwise would as things are coded to take proper advantage of 6 cores? Guessing not given the architecture of old but still, an intersting thought.
Posted by 3dcandy - Sat 25 Jan 2020 16:51
philehidiot
Interesting thought - I wonder if the current mainstream push towards MOAR CORES will mean that older AMD CPUs from the days of “throw more cores at the problem” will be better now than they otherwise would as things are coded to take proper advantage of 6 cores? Guessing not given the architecture of old but still, an intersting thought.

I'd like to say so but the FX8350 here has been retired and replaced by a Xeon X5670 which is miles faster…
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Mon 27 Jan 2020 11:37
philehidiot
Interesting thought - I wonder if the current mainstream push towards MOAR CORES will mean that older AMD CPUs from the days of “throw more cores at the problem” will be better now than they otherwise would as things are coded to take proper advantage of 6 cores? Guessing not given the architecture of old but still, an intersting thought.

I think they have aged remarkably well, we have an 8350 an a 6350 still in active use in the house.
Posted by 3dcandy - Mon 27 Jan 2020 12:02
DanceswithUnix
I think they have aged remarkably well, we have an 8350 an a 6350 still in active use in the house.

Still run very hot and throttle…. also sata performance is very weak
Posted by DanceswithUnix - Mon 27 Jan 2020 14:16
3dcandy
Still run very hot and throttle…. also sata performance is very weak

Bit harsh. They do crank out some heat when pushed, but even with the cheap heatsinks I used they don't throttle. Never noticed SATA performance issues, despite the day job revolving around Linux kernel cross compiles with all the small file I/O that implies.
Posted by Boogie83e - Tue 28 Jan 2020 14:22
Just checked two AMD Wraith Prism cooler, and the X3900, I bought just before Christmas, all three have four heatpipes…phew! :-P
Posted by scaryjim - Tue 28 Jan 2020 15:04
philehidiot
Interesting thought - I wonder if the current mainstream push towards MOAR CORES will mean that older AMD CPUs from the days of “throw more cores at the problem” will be better now than they otherwise would as things are coded to take proper advantage of 6 cores? Guessing not given the architecture of old but still, an intersting thought.

Given Intel were providing (admittedly top end) mainstream processors capable of running 8 threads throughout the life of the FX series, I find that pretty unlikely. Don't forget that's exactly what everyone said about the PS4/Xbox One using 8 AMD cat cores, but they were launched over 6 years ago now and I haven't seen anyone trumpeting the revivial of the FX 8350 as the budget CPU champ.

The FX 8350 is still going to have its inherent comparatively low IPC hampering it, which means - just like at launch - it's only going to hold up in situations that can load all the cores. And the simple fact is that not every piece of software can be efficiently parallelised. One of the great computing myths of the last decade or so is that every piece of software could be made to run faster if only it used MOAR THREADS. That's just not true. The most important influence of having more cores is actually that it keeps your computer functional when an intensive, long-running process is hammering one thread. I don't spin up virtual machines at work now with fewer than 3 cores available for exactly that reason, after wasting an entire day trying to do stuff on a 1 core VM while it was processing a Windows Update…

But sure, if you know you have a heavily threaded workload or you don't do anything intensive but like having lots of stuff running at once, an 8350 will still do a job.
Posted by RealNeil - Tue 28 Jan 2020 21:34
My 3800X came with an RGB cooler, but I have an AIO (280mm) to use instead. The stock cooler will stay in the box until I eventually sell the CPU. (if I live that long)
I'm a big fan of more than stock cooling on all four of my house's PCs.
Posted by Noxious89123 - Wed 29 Jan 2020 17:30
I would imagine the cooler doesn't come with 6 heat pipes, because those heatpipes will block airflow through the entire thickness of the fin-stack.