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Posted by Tabbykatze - Wed 02 Oct 2019 11:40
Yay, another news outlet sharing the very slide that indicatively shows how bad for money Intels previous lineup(s) were.

It's a turnaround for Intel because they have crippled the sales of their previous lines for sale and resale but you can have a previous gen chip at half the price now!

They're just turning the crank handle now, aren't they…
Posted by azrael- - Wed 02 Oct 2019 11:46
Do they support ECC*? ThreadRipper does.
*Of course they don't. Why would Intel give for free what Intel can make extra money on.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Wed 02 Oct 2019 12:45
azrael-
Do they support ECC*? ThreadRipper does.
*Of course they don't. Why would Intel give for free what Intel can make extra money on.

I haven't seen anything on ECC support yet but STH said it supports up to 256GB of unbuffered memory, is this ECC Unbuffered or standard memory unbuffered, there is no clarification.
Posted by afiretruck - Wed 02 Oct 2019 14:00
Good. These prices will help to keep AMD honest in their leading position (and hopefully their Threadripper prices sensible).

Edit: Always assuming you can actually buy one of these at the listed prices.
Posted by mark_a_scott - Wed 02 Oct 2019 14:04
if an x299 board only supports 128GB then is there a way a UEFI update can add support for 256GB?
Posted by globalwarning - Wed 02 Oct 2019 14:43
HAHAHA… “Relative performance per dollar” Haven't heard this from Intel in… forever. Can't wait for TR release, then let's see that chart again, and what happens to prices.
Posted by ik9000 - Wed 02 Oct 2019 14:49
unlocked** and the small print says “see disclaimer on slide 16”. What is that disclaimer? I wouldn't be surprised if it says “Only unlocked for a fee for multinational corporations on signing an exclusive use of intel products for 10years agreement” or similar.

Tabbykatze
Yay, another news outlet sharing the very slide that indicatively shows how bad for money Intels previous lineup(s) were.

Yup. So even Intel admit that Threadripper was far better bang-for-buck.
Posted by darcotech - Wed 02 Oct 2019 14:55
And this is all thanks to? AMD.
So, if you can, purchase AMD. Because, Intel lowering prices, it is just beginning.
We need to go all the way. This is also for AMD vs Nvidia.
Buy AMD whenev it is close call.
Posted by Dashers - Wed 02 Oct 2019 16:26
I said last year it wouldn't be until this year that we see the arena really heating up. And now it starts, Intel is fighting back.

Computer is five years old now (Haswell-E), so due for an upgrade, but is running just fine. Hopefully in another year or two the space should be pretty competitive.
Posted by Xlucine - Wed 02 Oct 2019 23:27
Still can't match the old TR models on performance - remember when new intel CPUs had a flurry of world records being set in various benchmarks? It'll be fun to see them try and undercut AMD while using a monolithic die, there's only one way that can end and it's not good for intel. 64 core TR (/baby epyc) will be one hell of a rig.

The PCIe lanes is nice, they've got a small advantage over TR (and nice to see them not fusing off so much functionality on most SKUs). I wonder if the 8 channel TR models will have the usual epyc 128 (PCIe 4) lanes?

ik9000
unlocked** and the small print says “see disclaimer on slide 16”. What is that disclaimer? I wouldn't be surprised if it says “Only unlocked for a fee for multinational corporations on signing an exclusive use of intel products for 10years agreement” or similar.

an “overclocking disclaimer” sounds like the usual “we won't guarantee overclocks”
Posted by Tabbykatze - Thu 03 Oct 2019 07:41
Xlucine
The PCIe lanes is nice, they've got a small advantage over TR (and nice to see them not fusing off so much functionality on most SKUs). I wonder if the 8 channel TR models will have the usual epyc 128 (PCIe 4) lanes?

The problem here is the 72 lanes Intel quoted are the available IO lanes+PCH. Once the PCH has been separated out, the actual usable is 48 lanes, still a far cry lower than TR2.

Frankly, unless you need Optane tiering, persistent DIMM or you really need Intel because the Software is heavily optimised for it, why would you buy these ranges of products?
Posted by ik9000 - Thu 03 Oct 2019 10:44
Xlucine
an “overclocking disclaimer” sounds like the usual “we won't guarantee overclocks”

But if it's usual why devote a presentation slide to it? I'd be interested to see what that slide says.