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Posted by tomcoleman - Mon 30 Sep 2019 16:46
so pro is different to reg? e.g 3900X vs 3900X pro ?
Posted by Tabbykatze - Mon 30 Sep 2019 17:01
tomcoleman
so pro is different to reg? e.g 3900X vs 3900X pro ?

They're probably on the horizon https://www.amd.com/en/ryzen-pro

The 1st and 2nd gens had some X series processors.
Posted by LSG501 - Mon 30 Sep 2019 18:16
So basically at best it has some extra ‘encryption’ or protection over the normal ryzen3… wouldn't it have been worthwhile having some of these features in normal desktop cpu's.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Mon 30 Sep 2019 19:50
LSG501
So basically at best it has some extra ‘encryption’ or protection over the normal ryzen3… wouldn't it have been worthwhile having some of these features in normal desktop cpu's.

But then you wouldn't have a business focused CPU that you can dramatically increase margins on then?
Posted by daddacool - Tue 01 Oct 2019 11:10
I've been waiting for the 3400G to build a small desktop for my son (bit of casual gaming but mostly stuff for school). My daughter has a machine with a 2400G in it but that lacks the “pro” nomenclature; is this a different class to the 2400G?!
Posted by scaryjim - Tue 01 Oct 2019 11:44
Tabbykatze
But then you wouldn't have a business focused CPU that you can dramatically increase margins on then?

Not really the point. IF you pay more for the PRO series (which is tricky to work out since they're OEM only) what you're paying for is the dedicated enterprise-level support, as much as any specific features. And if you're an enterprise of > 1000 staff (or you're on OEM selling to an enterprise of > 1000 staff) that's kind of critical, because you're going to have a lot of processors that will need a lot of support.

daddacool
I've been waiting for the 3400G to build a small desktop for my son (bit of casual gaming but mostly stuff for school). My daughter has a machine with a 2400G in it but that lacks the “pro” nomenclature; is this a different class to the 2400G?!

Depends what you mean by “class”. The 2400G and 2400G PRO are silicon identical. The PRO may have some additional features enabled, but they're down by fusing or microcode rather than a dedicated version of the silicon. But, as I mentioned above, the PRO series have an entirely different model of support targeted at large businesses, or the OEMs that sell to them (e.g. Dell premier, HP enterprise …).

For a home user, there's no point even thinking about a PRO series processor: they're generally not available at retail anyway, and they won't get you anything that's actually useful to you.

As to the 3400G, it's already available at retail, it's basically just a 2400G transferred to a 12nm process (v. 14nm) with very performance minor tweaks, and it's probably exactly the processor you're looking for.
Posted by daddacool - Tue 01 Oct 2019 12:04
Ah cheers, I'd been keeping an eye out for the 3400G and obviously missed it!
Posted by Tabbykatze - Tue 01 Oct 2019 12:23
scaryjim
Not really the point. IF you pay more for the PRO series (which is tricky to work out since they're OEM only) what you're paying for is the dedicated enterprise-level support, as much as any specific features. And if you're an enterprise of > 1000 staff (or you're on OEM selling to an enterprise of > 1000 staff) that's kind of critical, because you're going to have a lot of processors that will need a lot of support.

I know, was just taking the mick :P