I'd much rather have synchronous gigabit, what happened to it being 100:10 ratio, it's back to 100:5 ratio for this link.
I'm begging for Hyperoptic to come to my area but they aren't yet :(
I'll see what the 500mbps deal goes down to when this is out.
Honestly until (download) servers catch up with the download speeds 1GBit is completely useless in most cases… I've had situations where I can't even saturate 80Mbits without using more than one download and personally I'd rather have more upload than 1GB.
If I lived in the tiny area this covers (this will NEVER get to me) I might gain 900Mbit's download (assuming somewhere can saturate it) but I only gain 30Mbit's on the upload… I'd rather have 300/300Mbit than 1000/50, in all honesty I can't think of anything that even needs 1GBit download speeds yet I can think of reasons for needing faster upload speeds.
can we seperatly buy the Hub 4 ? for the better wifi?
LSG501
Honestly until (download) servers catch up with the download speeds 1GBit is completely useless in most cases… I've had situations where I can't even saturate 80Mbits without using more than one download and personally I'd rather have more upload than 1GB.
If I lived in the tiny area this covers (this will NEVER get to me) I might gain 900Mbit's download (assuming somewhere can saturate it) but I only gain 30Mbit's on the upload… I'd rather have 300/300Mbit than 1000/50, in all honesty I can't think of anything that even needs 1GBit download speeds yet I can think of reasons for needing faster upload speeds.
I need gigabit because reasons…
You are absolutely right on the saturation of the link not being possible without exceptional numbers of connections.
But you get it because it's cool not because you can use or need it :P
LSG501
in all honesty I can't think of anything that even needs 1GBit download speeds yet I can think of reasons for needing faster upload speeds.
I'm currently (still) downloading free Epic games, at a rate of around 140Kbps… I flippin' well need 1Gbps download, if only so I don't go insane before Christmas!!!!!
Ttaskmaster
I'm currently (still) downloading free Epic games, at a rate of around 140Kbps…
yeah but you didn't say if that was down to epic or your connection :P
I have found a company here that offer 5 gbit on fiber, and adequately it is called Gigabit.
And for a reasonable price i can pay out of my early retirement pension..
But sadly they only seem to be on the fiber around the Danish capitol, and 50 Caterpillar tracked excavators could not drag my old ass over there.
It is rare i get the full 128 MB/s DL speed my gbit connection can do on download.
Very few hosts are not geared for those speeds, but at least its not in my end the problem is.
PS. Downloading the 5 or so GB COD modern warfare beta, i only got around 50 MB/s average, so for a game i knew would sock and got confirmed sucked ( for me ) that would have been a pain to do on a 20 mbit DSL connection.
This actually is pretty well timed for me …. as a reminder to renegotiate (or cancel) my current service. I don't come close to needing my existing (300) service, and would happily see it cut in half, or more, to reduce the bill. I'm 2even thinking, seriously, about just dumping broadband altogether, as the most demanding thing I do online is post here, and that hardly gets my connection exactly breaking a sweat.
And £62? For me, dream on, Virgin.
Yeah if you don't have any “special” needs, you might as well drop home internet and just go with a 4G phone, that can act as a AP for your computer.
I did that a few years ago getting caught out for a few weeks in between ISP change, but my phone saved my ass there, and i just had to not do “heavy” things as my data plan er just 20 GB/mo.
So if you don't game / don't stream / don't move a lot of data but just surf the web and do mail ASO, then you can make do with very little bandwith and very little computational power.
62 GBP are more than 2 X of what i pay now for my 1000 / 100 mbit on cable, and it is about 20% more than i could get 5 gbit for if i lived in the right place near Copenhagen.
PS. TBH i don't really need gbit either, or 5 gbit for that matter, but i have always been big on overkill / headroom, and if the price are right i will also gladly pay for that, if not i will just have to make do without.
I agree with that analysis, Gentle Viking, but what I meant was without even the 4G connection, and without any form of AP. Most (as in about 95%+) of my PC usage these days takes place on an air-gapped home network. This is, for instance, photographic work.
I don't (online) game, don't stream, don't bank online, rarely shop online, don't move much if any data and even email is very, very rare.
My use of mobile phone is also extremely limited. Put it this way, I often have to do something, every few months, just to avoid losing the number.
I can still connect, currently, on a tablet via BT hotspot, and to be honest, that's enough for my current needs, which is mainly posting here. If I were to stop doing that, I don't even need that hotspot access.
I'm currently wondering why I need any form of internet access at all, and even if I want it. I'm going in the opposite direction to needing ever-faster access. I'm certainly not suggesting that that is anything other than very uncommon, but it is why, for me, more speed for more money is an utter non-starter.
Those that are trying to find a reason for 1GB for a single use (downloading a single file faster) are going to struggle.
This is about bandwidth and is ideal for households that have several users that have HD/UHD Netflix/Amazon/etc streams, downloads, online gaming, VOIP and so on.
But it's also about bragging rights for VM - and most of us would far rather they expand coverage than ramp up existing speeds.
darkghost
Those that are trying to find a reason for 1GB for a single use (downloading a single file faster) are going to struggle.
I want the 60GB game downloaded and ready to play within the 10 minutes it takes to go get a cup of coffee and put the dogs out. How is that not the biggest reason ever?
yeah getting things done in,,,,,, snap finger, is nice.
Though most often i sit and look at the DL speed and its not even half of what i could do if the damn host was awake.
And yeah with the insane size of games today, or windows update after a clean install.
So i am chuffed Denmark are on the forefront of internet speeds, and coverage in cables and in the air, actually most of the fiber grid are put down outside major towns as digging the sidewalk and bicycle paths up in those are hard to get permission for.
I am looking for a apartment in more rural settings, with a fiber connection.
My current cable provider are very evil, i always say for each day it exist Denmark are getting worse, but luckily other actors now are in on their cables, but the owner still make some money on me.
But sadly the alternative ( the phone plug ) only carry 10/1 mbit here, and i have tried and it was just unbearable, and the same end owner of the cobber phone cables are the same evil company.
My local area is always over contended and I have struggled to get the advertised 100Mb speeds before. I do hope they will have enough bandwidth to cover all of their customers connecting at peak times.
The speeds were worse than dialup from 6 pm until 11 pm. I would like to see some guarantees on how fast my connection would be for £60+/month.
Well, i'm officially old now. Have VM 350 and to be honest probably wouldn't notice if I was on the 200 package. Not paying for this unless they can get the upload speeds past 100 so I can work better from home.
just found out they arent selling the Hub4 seperatly :(
Been downloading a little from the Microsoft store, that seem to be able to give me 1/4 of what i can get.
Now most people in the world, are far from able to be on a gigabit connection or faster, so how the hell do they expect gamers to download 60 GB or even more ?
I personally would not sit for god know how many hours that would take on a 10 mbit DSL line, that IMO would just be stupid and i would constantly feel like someone was yelling IDIOT into my ear.
Maybe other people are just more patient than i am, but downloading Gears 5 from the Microsoft store even at the speed i was getting ( settling around 230 Mb/sec ) was painful but my imagination have no problem seeing what it would feel like 100 X slower.
I wish I could get these sorts of speeds… My 30Mb/5Mb combo isn't the worst by any state but I do wish for faster internet.. Aluminium cabling between me and the cab doesn't help but then neither does the 800m or so I'm away from it :(
Oh Virgin Media, please come down to Somerset at some point and hopefully very soon!!
Gentle Viking;4139306
I personally would not sit for god know how many hours that would take on a 10 mbit DSL line, that IMO would just be stupid and i would constantly feel like someone was yelling IDIOT into my ear.
When you have no other option but to wait three days for the game to download, that is what you do. No idiocy about it…
Yeah i know, for the first many years in my house i was tied down to a 6/1 mbit dsl connection on the phone plug, but then i faked interest from most houses in the area to get the fiber company which was closing in on my area to put fiber to my house, and i got 30 / 30 which back then was okay fast and cost as much as i pay for my current connection.
The fiber company then sent invites out to everyone in the area based on my fake interest forms, and invited us to a meeting on the local inn where of course not that many turned up, BUT ! still they talked we listened and got coffee and cake on their expense, and a few months later i got a letter saying they would expand to our area within a year, even if interest was not as large as their internet forms had indicated :mrgreen:
And we are talking a rural area here, the little town i lived in was like 10 houses and 3 small farms, then then you had more small farms or ex farms spread around with many 100 M in between the houses.
Still it was only some 12 KM west of the #2 largest town in Denmark, but thats far enough out on the country that in winter only the farmers did snow clearing with their tractors, the snow plows / salt machines dident come “out there” on those small roads.
So the poor SOB's out there, they got to do everything they can to get things moving, i turned to “document fraud” / online interest forms fraud and it worked for me, though i only got to enjoy it for a year before the house had to go.
And i am looking for a apartment where i can get fiber again, cuz really the people making money on me ( the owner of the cable ) are evil and i don't feel good giving them my money, and besides same speed up as down are the way to go, actually i would prefer to have 110 mbit download and 1000 mbit upload on my current cable connection.
And as i understand it the docis 3.1 format used on my cable do support that, but ISP wont play ball with me, i also asked for 500/500 and that request they also turned down.
My speeds on cable, do fluctuate some thru-out the day running speedtest to local places, but i found that Amazons speedtest at fast.com provide me with a most consistent result all time of the day.
Even my own ISPs speedtest are less consistent than fast.com
When i had fiber in my house the speed never fluctuated, it was always just over the 30/30 mbit i paid for.
We have fibre right outside the house, connection pot installed and all ready to go. We've had it for two years. We still can't get it connected because the company have not enabled the cabinet.
tomcoleman
can we seperatly buy the Hub 4 ? for the better wifi?
If you want better WiFi, then you're much better off buying a 3rd party router and put the existing VM hub in ‘modem’ mode. Even hub 4 is still based on Intel's rubbish puma chip.