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Posted by azrael- - Mon 30 Sep 2019 11:41
Because Microsoft has such a stellar record when it comes to bug-free code…
Posted by Tabbykatze - Mon 30 Sep 2019 11:52
azrael-
Because Microsoft has such a stellar record when it comes to bug-free code…

That doesn't exonerate the SSD manufacturers.

Because one doesn't have a stellar record doesn't excuse the issues found in others.
Posted by Dashers - Mon 30 Sep 2019 13:00
Fantastic straw-man argument there azrael.

It's a great shame the people tasked with implementing security have such a poor understanding with the fundamentals (such as not using a generic password for everybody).
Posted by chinf - Mon 30 Sep 2019 13:46
More importantly - should we trust any closed & proprietary security platform that has no credible, comprehensive and continuous independent security auditing, regardless of manufacturer?
Posted by azrael- - Tue 01 Oct 2019 09:09
Tabbykatze
That doesn't exonerate the SSD manufacturers.

Because one doesn't have a stellar record doesn't excuse the issues found in others.
I quite agree with you on this. It's just with all the bungled updates, bugs and what not courtesy of Microsoft they probably shouldn't pretend to know better. I orginally intended to state “Pot, meet Kettle”. Perhaps I should have.

Dashers
Fantastic straw-man argument there azrael.

It's a great shame the people tasked with implementing security have such a poor understanding with the fundamentals (such as not using a generic password for everybody).
Not quite sure what you mean with “straw-man argument”. I'm not defending manufacturers of SSDs. I just believe Microsoft should take care of their own flaws before pointing the finger.

chinf
More importantly - should we trust any closed & proprietary security platform that has no credible, comprehensive and continuous independent security auditing, regardless of manufacturer?
Very well said, tbh.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Tue 01 Oct 2019 10:45
azrael-
I quite agree with you on this. It's just with all the bungled updates, bugs and what not courtesy of Microsoft they probably shouldn't pretend to know better. I orginally intended to state “Pot, meet Kettle”. Perhaps I should have.

There's a big difference between bugs in millions of lines of code and secure enclave having a bug that allows you to reset all the encryption keys on a drive giving you full access to the encrypted contents.
Posted by Mr_Jon - Tue 01 Oct 2019 11:00
So…if one has a drive that they have deemed untrustworthy, does bitlocker need turning off and on again to benefit from the update?
Posted by azrael- - Tue 01 Oct 2019 11:57
Tabbykatze
There's a big difference between bugs in millions of lines of code and secure enclave having a bug that allows you to reset all the encryption keys on a drive giving you full access to the encrypted contents.
Not really. I'm saying this as a developer …fighting bugs on a daily basis. A bug is a bug.

TBH, if I really wanted software encryption I'd probably use VeraCrypt. At least that *is* open source and independently audited.
Posted by Tabbykatze - Tue 01 Oct 2019 12:25
azrael-
Not really. I'm saying this as a developer …fighting bugs on a daily basis. A bug is a bug.

TBH, if I really wanted software encryption I'd probably use VeraCrypt. At least that *is* open source and independently audited.

Bitlocker is independently audited and is trusted as an industry standard for Windows products, just as FileVault 2 is for Mac.

Just because it's “Open Source” does not make it better or even more trustworthy, look at OpenSSL and Heartbleed.

As a developer, then you should know the difference between a bug causing an issue and an egregious design flaw resulting in security being classified as “null”.
Posted by tankizzy - Mon 16 Dec 2019 10:12
Tabbykatze
Bitlocker is independently audited and is trusted as an industry standard for Windows products, just as FileVault 2 is for Mac.

Just because it's “Open Source” does not make it better or even more trustworthy, look at OpenSSL and Heartbleed.

As a developer, then you should know the difference between a bug causing an issue and an egregious design flaw resulting in security being classified as “null”.

I've never tried mentioned software. As it is free and included as a feature on Windows it doesn't seem like the best option. I think that it's better to try some third part solutions for higher security. For example, Nordlocker is a great tool to help with this matter.