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Posted by RyanP13 - Fri 11 Apr 2008 09:47
Would like to know what sort of price point they are looking at?

Is that many fans necessarry do you think?

And are there any after market solutions for the large 200mm fan at the moment?
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 10:22
The price point is around £120 as per the review (based on the 209$ USD price point)

As for replacement 200mm they are available although taking a while to come to market - there really isn't anything wrong with the one that is currently fitted, especially as there is three possible fan settings.

Matt.
Posted by Azza - Fri 11 Apr 2008 11:00
Great review guys. :)


One thing bugs me though is that it isnt very deep for a case of its size.
Posted by ranger502 - Fri 11 Apr 2008 11:19
Been waiting for this one to come out.

I have the 900 case and Antec appear to have listened to the customers and corrected some of the niggles with the 900 case.

1. Dust filters fited to the fans ( had to cut up a pair of tights to make some for my 900)

2. The ability to change the fan speed without opening the case or fitting a seperate fan controller)

3. Cable managment holes and water cooling holes predone.

Love my 900 have the fans set of medium and my overclocked Opteron 185 and 8800GTS run very cool

So this is going on my wish list for that watercooled multiterrabyte gaming monster rig …….:)
Posted by -iceblade^ - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:18
does this mean the price of 900s will drop?
Posted by RyanP13 - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:25
You would think so but cases are one of the components that never seem to drop in price.
Posted by moogle - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:28
been waiting for this for a long time :D
Hopefully we can buy it this month like Scott Richards said. One problem I can see is that if it has 2 inches of clearance for a 2900XT what about a 9800GTX :(

I have the same thoughts as Azza as it's not been resized horizontally as it has been vertically.
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:29
Azza
Great review guys. :)


One thing bugs me though is that it isnt very deep for a case of its size.

Why thank you :)

It's as deep as it needs to be in all fairness - it can fit all the latest hardware we have currently in the labs without a problem and the airflow is such that a greater depth would only cause an airflow void.


ranger502
Been waiting for this one to come out.

I have the 900 case and Antec appear to have listened to the customers and corrected some of the niggles with the 900 case.

1. Dust filters fited to the fans ( had to cut up a pair of tights to make some for my 900)

2. The ability to change the fan speed without opening the case or fitting a seperate fan controller)

3. Cable managment holes and water cooling holes predone.

Love my 900 have the fans set of medium and my overclocked Opteron 185 and 8800GTS run very cool

So this is going on my wish list for that watercooled multiterrabyte gaming monster rig …….:)


It's a sensible upgrade from the 900, if anything this is better suited to the new hotter GPU's. Due to the shape of the 900 its better suited to less than totally high end GPU's in all honesty…

Matt.
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:42
-iceblade^;1390619
does this mean the price of 900s will drop?

Possible, but the margins in chassis are very small at the best of times and if the 900 is still selling in good numbers then it wouldn't make any sense at all to drop the price.

RyanP13
You would think so but cases are one of the components that never seem to drop in price.

See above :)

moogle
been waiting for this for a long time :D
Hopefully we can buy it this month like Scott Richards said. One problem I can see is that if it has 2 inches of clearance for a 2900XT what about a 9800GTX :(

I have the same thoughts as Azza as it's not been resized horizontally as it has been vertically.

The 9800GTX should fit - I am going to double check this for you.

Matt
Posted by Fatboy40 - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:46
My 900 is now suffering from ‘case envy’ :)

Damned nice case, you could easily squeeze a double rad in the front along with plenty of drives.
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:51
Im looking at the information and if I am reading it right the 2900XT is 22cm in length and the 9800GTX is approx 5cm longer than that - if that is the case it should fit without issues, although you would lose at least one of the HDD out of the 3 available in the drive module
Posted by moogle - Fri 11 Apr 2008 12:55
oh well it's got 9 I won't be using all 9 hdd bays :)
thanks for checking that out, and nice review! :thumbsup:
Posted by dangel - Fri 11 Apr 2008 13:15
Thanks guys - i really like the look of this case :)
Posted by SiM - Fri 11 Apr 2008 13:29
AWesome… Its on my shopping list now :)

Is it a very loud case? It must be with all those fans!!!
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 14:21
SiM
AWesome… Its on my shopping list now :)

Is it a very loud case? It must be with all those fans!!!

It depends how you configure it - if you go for the full unadulterated high speed fan experience its quite irritatingly noisy…

Matt
Posted by moogle - Fri 11 Apr 2008 15:17
SiM
AWesome… Its on my shopping list now :)

Is it a very loud case? It must be with all those fans!!!

900 was with all fans on full. yet i still had them on because i didn't mind the noise, it was bearable and I eventually got used to it because I wanted those cool temps. It's better now cos you can put the fans on med/low and still have good airflow. But the large one on high doesn't make much noise.
Posted by Kerotan - Fri 11 Apr 2008 15:18
Great review. Do you think the dust filters will be able to be bought seperatley/fit onto a 900? Could really do with some tbh, that case is a bit big for me, I'm happy with my 900 atm but I can see some advantages with the 1200. I reckon Antec got the top of the 900 just right though, I much prefer the sunken set-back front panel and little storage tray compared to the top of the 1200.
Posted by RyanP13 - Fri 11 Apr 2008 15:22
I would have thought you could just fill it full of quieter 120mm fans running at low RPMs and still get great air flow.

Still would require spending even more money though.
Posted by moogle - Fri 11 Apr 2008 15:37
Kerotan
Great review. Do you think the dust filters will be able to be bought seperatley/fit onto a 900? Could really do with some tbh, that case is a bit big for me, I'm happy with my 900 atm but I can see some advantages with the 1200. I reckon Antec got the top of the 900 just right though, I much prefer the sunken set-back front panel and little storage tray compared to the top of the 1200.

the aluminium 120mm fan filters from scan fit the 900. they did a good job too :)
Posted by shaffaaf27 - Fri 11 Apr 2008 15:48
any money shot pics with your kit installed?

i want to see how the cable management is.
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 15:50
Kerotan
Great review. Do you think the dust filters will be able to be bought seperatley/fit onto a 900? Could really do with some tbh, that case is a bit big for me, I'm happy with my 900 atm but I can see some advantages with the 1200. I reckon Antec got the top of the 900 just right though, I much prefer the sunken set-back front panel and little storage tray compared to the top of the 1200.

Highly unlikely, the mounting for them is moulded into the drive caddies

RyanP13
I would have thought you could just fill it full of quieter 120mm fans running at low RPMs and still get great air flow.

Still would require spending even more money though.

Indeed, my personal recommendation would by my fan of choice, The golf ball eagle fans from sharkoon, the lower rpm models.

moogle
the aluminium 120mm fan filters from scan fit the 900. they did a good job too :)

There you go then, a solution for the 900 filter issue…

Thanks all
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 16:15
shaffaaf27
any money shot pics with your kit installed?

i want to see how the cable management is.

I can see what I can do but my first tidy before the benchmarking has been destroyed by picking it apart whilst writing the review…
Posted by rjdriver - Fri 11 Apr 2008 17:41
While it was mentioned in the middle of the review, kind of on passing, it wasn't brought up again in the conclusion, and it bears remembering in order to prevent some assembly frustration.

Most motherboards are designed with a top mounted power supply in mind, and thus have the main MB power socket at the top of the board, or at the front near the top.

When I assembled my Antec 900 machine, the power cord just barely reached around the video card to the plug, and did not make for the best cord management stategy. With the extra height of the 1200, that problem might be worse.

System builders using this case should plan their MB/Power Supply combination with that in mind, or make sure they have an extension.


Bob
Posted by MD - Fri 11 Apr 2008 20:42
as written we had issues with our test rig on this - its the only accessory thats really missing from the overall package.

Matt
Posted by Fragged_24_7 - Sat 12 Apr 2008 00:53
I have an odd question, what is the point of the removable PSU adapter plate? What Power supply is that big, and could that design possibly mean a Dual PSU design in the retail version? It seems to me, even if it is not actually supported, that you could easily take a dremel to that case, or actually a drill, and fit 2 PSUs in it. Seems odd that they would make it so easy to do, but would not advertise that ability.
Posted by kelvinburd - Sat 12 Apr 2008 10:49
Im really looking for that perfect case, I have been waiting for around a year for a case to come on to the market that really does it for me and at the moment im torn between this and the Zalman GT1000 guess i really going for looks more than anything else.
Posted by MD - Sat 12 Apr 2008 11:07
Fragged_24_7
I have an odd question, what is the point of the removable PSU adapter plate? What Power supply is that big, and could that design possibly mean a Dual PSU design in the retail version? It seems to me, even if it is not actually supported, that you could easily take a dremel to that case, or actually a drill, and fit 2 PSUs in it. Seems odd that they would make it so easy to do, but would not advertise that ability.

As per the review its designed for reducndant PSU solutions. Dual PSU's wouldn't be good even if you did dremel - Antec have the P192 for its dual PSU offering.

kelvinburd
Im really looking for that perfect case, I have been waiting for around a year for a case to come on to the market that really does it for me and at the moment im torn between this and the Zalman GT1000 guess i really going for looks more than anything else.

There is quite a difference between this and the GT1000 - they are also two very different chassis. The Zalman is desinged round quality and exclusivity - the Antec 1200 is still a quality chassis, but steel based and much more about mass storage - the Zalman is limited in its HDD capacity.
Posted by kelvinburd - Sat 12 Apr 2008 12:37
MD
There is quite a difference between this and the GT1000 - they are also two very different chassis. The Zalman is desinged round quality and exclusivity - the Antec 1200 is still a quality chassis, but steel based and much more about mass storage - the Zalman is limited in its HDD capacity.

I must admit I have only just started to fully understand computers and I still have a lot to learn having only just completed my first self build without setting fire to anything. I guess this is where my vanity comes into it as Im going far more on looks rather than looking for a case thats going to serve me in my exploration of “i wonder if i plug this in there would it blow up”. So I guess the question now becomes if I intend to invest my good some on money in a case rather than a low end £50 one will this case grow with me as my abilty and understanding grows, just how future proof is this case ?

This may sound like a funny question but I really prefer spending a decent amount of money on something that lasts rather than £50 every 6 - 10 months :stupid:
Posted by shaffaaf27 - Sat 12 Apr 2008 12:52
i was wondring, but seeing as the silverstoen kublai 03 is one of the few at around £120, how does this compare to it?
Posted by MD - Sat 12 Apr 2008 13:02
we haven't had one in - but I will ask Silverstone if they would be so kind as to send us one so we can have a look :)

As for the future proofing, its hard to say - we dont know exactly what is round the corner, but generall chassis are pretty fool proof to use. It comes down to what demands you will place on it as to how suitable it is as a unit for you to buy.

Matt
Posted by shaffaaf27 - Sat 12 Apr 2008 13:04
oooo i love you MD :mrgreen: :iloveyou:

i hope you do get it in. there are only two reviews i could find, both pointing to superb reviews, but they were a year old. :(

please silverstone, head our prayers :D
Posted by -iceblade^ - Sun 13 Apr 2008 01:23
? didn't y'all do a review on this chassis not long ago?
Posted by moogle - Sun 13 Apr 2008 01:29
-iceblade^;1392042
? didn't y'all do a review on this chassis not long ago?

anandtech had a peek at it and iirc some others had a review case.
Posted by cupra-sport - Sun 13 Apr 2008 03:50
when will this be released?

a 120.3 would fit nice in the front losing all but 2 drive bays and maybe a 120.2 attathced to 1 fan on the back or maybe a custom top for a pa 120.3 in the top
Posted by moogle - Sun 13 Apr 2008 04:20
cupra-sport
when will this be released?

a 120.3 would fit nice in the front losing all but 2 drive bays and maybe a 120.2 attathced to 1 fan on the back or maybe a custom top for a pa 120.3 in the top

i was thinking of modding the top with one of those grills but it's just not long enough to fit a 3 x 120 grill and it's got that plastic uneven surface at the top :(
Posted by AndrewJ - Sun 13 Apr 2008 10:28
Great review, thats me sold when it comes out :)
Posted by Brewster0101 - Sun 13 Apr 2008 22:55
There is also a version of this case due with a radiator covering the top fan for water cooling rigs… Good days….

No release date…. Bad days……

Doesn't look like it has dust filters!
Posted by IainM - Tue 15 Apr 2008 10:02
Antec 1200 Twelve Hundred Full Tower Case - No PSU - Ebuyer

Definatley worth £110 imo
Posted by RyanP13 - Tue 15 Apr 2008 10:17
True but how many fans fo you really need in a case.

am i the only person that hates LED fans as well?
Posted by shaffaaf27 - Tue 15 Apr 2008 10:49
i like leds, but not blue…..i prefer red, as they hurt the eyes less.

i will be switching them for RED tricools.
Posted by MD - Tue 15 Apr 2008 11:03
I love it when im right :D
Posted by ntrisKKT - Tue 15 Apr 2008 21:41
Brewster0101
There is also a version of this case due with a radiator covering the top fan for water cooling rigs… Good days….

No release date…. Bad days……

Doesn't look like it has dust filters!

Did you even look or read the review? The pics clearly showed that there were dust filters for the side and front fans of the case!….Good days….
Posted by Brewster0101 - Wed 16 Apr 2008 06:55
ntrisKKT
Did you even look or read the review? The pics clearly showed that there were dust filters for the side and front fans of the case!….Good days….

The Thermaltake Armour / Kandalf cases have dust filters over the actual drive bays, regardless if there are fans or items in them.

For this case to have filters over the front, you have to use the hard drive adaptor which includes a fan filter.

so what if you don't want to use the supplied hard drive bay adaptors. Like stated in the review, their are not the best design ever.

So I did read the review, just I understood it better than you!
Posted by kchakkar - Wed 16 Apr 2008 07:57
Is this made most from plastic?
Posted by MD - Wed 16 Apr 2008 08:54
Brewster0101
The Thermaltake Armour / Kandalf cases have dust filters over the actual drive bays, regardless if there are fans or items in them.

For this case to have filters over the front, you have to use the hard drive adaptor which includes a fan filter.

so what if you don't want to use the supplied hard drive bay adaptors. Like stated in the review, their are not the best design ever.

So I did read the review, just I understood it better than you!

The front bay covers are filtered for the HDD's and the three at the top feature a foam backing.

The thing is you HAVE to use the HDD bays - the front bay covers attach to the drive bays, they do not clip into the front of the chassis frame itself.

kchakkar
Is this made most from plastic?

Its completely steel with the exception of the top and twi strips down the edge of the front.

Matt.
Posted by moogle - Wed 16 Apr 2008 10:51
RyanP13
am i the only person that hates LED fans as well?

yes :)

shifting my crap now to pay for this. i wonder if I should wait for a version 2 as the version 1 900 had problems with the top dual slot graphics card.
Posted by jeffel - Wed 16 Apr 2008 19:18
God my antec 900 sucks up all the dust in my room that i dont have to hover it .Can imagine what this can do?:mrgreen:
Posted by shaffaaf27 - Wed 16 Apr 2008 19:20
so…..got any news on the kublai?
Posted by moogle - Wed 16 Apr 2008 20:32
jeffel
God my antec 900 sucks up all the dust in my room that i dont have to hover it .Can imagine what this can do?:mrgreen:

yeh, it'll strip my cat bald! :laugh:
buuuut, at least the dust filter will stop the dozens of moths from being sucked through the front ;D
Posted by Prospero - Tue 22 Apr 2008 11:06
So is it possible to disable the LEDs on the 120mm fans? If I go with this case it's either that or buy new ones. I would just assume snip them somehow.
Posted by AndrewJ - Tue 22 Apr 2008 14:29
IainM
Antec 1200 Twelve Hundred Full Tower Case - No PSU - Ebuyer

Definatley worth £110 imo

Bargain, seriously tempted as my 900 is a little shabby

Now financies.. :juggle:
Posted by Azza - Tue 22 Apr 2008 14:51
£100 :surprised:


Thats mighty tempting.
Posted by AndrewJ - Tue 22 Apr 2008 15:50
Can't wait for Scan to get them in, be too much temptation then :D
Posted by Azza - Tue 22 Apr 2008 15:58
Awww the price has gone up to £109.83inc vat now. :(
Posted by AndrewJ - Tue 22 Apr 2008 16:01
Any news on when Scan will get them in stock?
Posted by moogle - Tue 22 Apr 2008 16:16
Azza
£100 :surprised:


Thats mighty tempting.

same! I was gonna frigging order!
Posted by moogle - Tue 22 Apr 2008 16:33
bump, back to £99 and ordered! :)
Posted by Azza - Tue 22 Apr 2008 16:48
moogle
bump, back to £99 and ordered! :)

I so want one.

But ive got three cases at the moment. :(
Posted by moogle - Tue 22 Apr 2008 17:12
Azza
I so want one.

But ive got three cases at the moment. :(

:(

lets hope you sell them in good time. I'm currently no case as mine is boxed and waiting for a sale. Don't worry though I got a pre-order email from ebuyer so I won't be getting mine real quick :)
Posted by Azza - Tue 22 Apr 2008 17:28
moogle
:(

lets hope you sell them in good time. I'm currently no case as mine is boxed and waiting for a sale. Don't worry though I got a pre-order email from ebuyer so I won't be getting mine real quick :)

Did it say an ETA in it?
Posted by Azza - Tue 22 Apr 2008 20:35
And now its gone back up.


Whats the bloody hell?!?
Posted by TheCherub - Tue 22 Apr 2008 22:07
I am confused about why the lack of dust filter on the 200mm fan is an issue?

From looking at the picture of the fan, it looks very much like it is an exhaust fan, so it cannot be dragging dust into the case. If anything it may help to get rid of it.
Posted by moogle - Wed 23 Apr 2008 01:50
Azza
Did it say an ETA in it?

narr no eta,
the price musta been happy houred. scans today only equiv but much shorter.

TheCherub
I am confused about why the lack of dust filter on the 200mm fan is an issue?

From looking at the picture of the fan, it looks very much like it is an exhaust fan, so it cannot be dragging dust into the case. If anything it may help to get rid of it.

dust falls into it though, me myself I put a cloth over when finished with it.
Posted by o0oPhreako0o - Wed 30 Apr 2008 08:40
First of all, Great review ! :)

I have the Antec Nine Hundred, and i absolutely love it. So now I am considering to buy his bigger brother. The Antec Twelve Hundred. Anywayz I have some questions about the new case:

- In the Antec Nine Hundred I had some problems installing the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler.
I was only able to install in horizontally, but not vertical because of the sidefan of the Nine Hundred.
Does this cooler fit in the Twelve Hundred ?, horizontally and verticall that is :rolleyes:

- How about the watercooling of the Twelve Hundred. What rads can I install into the Twelve Hundred?


Thanks ! :rockon2:
Posted by moogle - Wed 30 Apr 2008 09:00
o0oPhreako0o
First of all, Great review ! :)

I have the Antec Nine Hundred, and i absolutely love it. So now I am considering to buy his bigger brother. The Antec Twelve Hundred. Anywayz I have some questions about the new case:

- In the Antec Nine Hundred I had some problems installing the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler.
I was only able to install in horizontally, but not vertical because of the sidefan of the Nine Hundred.
Does this cooler fit in the Twelve Hundred ?, horizontally and verticall that is :rolleyes:

- How about the watercooling of the Twelve Hundred. What rads can I install into the Twelve Hundred?


Thanks ! :rockon2:

I wasn't able to install the sidefan with my ultra both ways. but I had the fan on bottom side rather than top side. I'm pretty sure you won't have this problem now as the 1200 is longer and most likely the cpu is much higher up than the side window. Not 100% sure but I have a good feeling I'll be able to use the side fan this time :)
Posted by MD - Wed 30 Apr 2008 09:19
o0oPhreako0o
First of all, Great review ! :)

- In the Antec Nine Hundred I had some problems installing the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler.
I was only able to install in horizontally, but not vertical because of the sidefan of the Nine Hundred.
Does this cooler fit in the Twelve Hundred ?, horizontally and verticall that is :rolleyes:

- How about the watercooling of the Twelve Hundred. What rads can I install into the Twelve Hundred?


Thanks ! :rockon2:

Thanks for the comments.

Sorry I don't have one of those coolers to hand to check, but there is a fair bit more room inside round the CPU area than the 900 - was the side fan bracket the issue before?

Watercooling, its an unknown at this moment, but there was due to be a W/C version of the case with a top mounted 200mm rad, but as yet its all quiet on that front.

Matt.
Posted by o0oPhreako0o - Wed 30 Apr 2008 09:43
Thanks for the reply's ! :mrgreen:

Hmmm.. Well maybe they will introduce it within a month or so. The Antec Twelve Hundred that is available now also has the holes for the rad underneath the 200mm right… :O_o1: ?
If its exactly the same as the w/c version of the Twelve Hundred, then I could always buy another 200mm rad :mrgreen:



#phreak
Posted by moogle - Wed 30 Apr 2008 10:08
MD
was the side fan bracket the issue before?

was if you have the fan on the bottom side of the heatsink
ie

heatsink
120mm fan

and the side fan would close in on the fan.
Posted by MD - Wed 30 Apr 2008 10:18
surely thats more to do with the location of the CPU socket in relation to the edge of the motherboard?

As long as your motherboard confirms to the standard then it should fit, but I cant tell you definitively as although I have 100's of coolers, this isn't one of them.

The space on the rear is as standard as i have seen, with a standard sized and profiled 120mm fan pre-fitted.

Matt
Posted by moogle - Wed 30 Apr 2008 13:02
well the motherboards have the cpu sockets in a very general place don't they? Mine was an ASUS A8N32-Sli at the time and the cpu socket wasn't low it was quite high up the board. the side fan vent was in the middle of the sidepanel and thats what caused the problem. I hope they've left it lower on the 1200.
Posted by MD - Wed 30 Apr 2008 13:50
thats what I meant by side panel mount ;)

The side panel is now located over the GPU area moreso than the 900
Posted by moogle - Wed 30 Apr 2008 13:53
MD
thats what I meant by side panel mount ;)

The side panel is now located over the GPU area moreso than the 900

oh sorry got a bit confused there :stupid: x 2
Hoooray! Glad I won't be leaving a 120mm fan in the pc bits box.
Posted by Farinorco - Wed 30 Apr 2008 21:04
Hi, I'm thinking about purchasing this case (when it's available here in Spain) and watercool it, but I've some questions to ask about it…

I'd like to put a triple rad in the front and a double rad in the rear. I know that I should make some work by there, like exchanging the hard drive cages by some kind of structure to support the rad and the front filters, bezels and so. There's no problem with that. But… Are the built in front fan speed controllers a part of the fan, or a part of the little cage which contains the fan? Are that cages metal or plastic? Are the speed controllers useful to any fan, only Antec Tricools, or only the Tricools that come with the case? How are they connected to the fans? It would be possible to keep the fans (stock or aftermarket ones) connected to those speed controllers but at a distance of 5-10cm (2-4") from the fan cages? (that's it, I want to know if I can put something like front/controllers-rad-shroud-fans keeping the fans connected to the speed controllers)

About the fans… they're rated at 1200/1600/2000 rpm, but reading a review of Tricool fans in other web, I've seen that the low speed is really 5v/~850rpm, and mid is ~1400rpm… what do you know about it?

Anyway, great review (as usual :rolleyes:), and excuse any mistake in my writing…
Posted by MD - Wed 30 Apr 2008 22:09
Farinorco
Are the built in front fan speed controllers a part of the fan, or a part of the little cage which contains the fan?

Are that cages metal or plastic?

Are the speed controllers useful to any fan, only Antec Tricools, or only the Tricools that come with the case? How are they connected to the fans?

It would be possible to keep the fans (stock or aftermarket ones) connected to those speed controllers but at a distance of 5-10cm (2-4") from the fan cages? (that's it, I want to know if I can put something like front/controllers-rad-shroud-fans keeping the fans connected to the speed controllers)

About the fans… they're rated at 1200/1600/2000 rpm, but reading a review of Tricool fans in other web, I've seen that the low speed is really 5v/~850rpm, and mid is ~1400rpm… what do you know about it?

Anyway, great review (as usual :rolleyes:), and excuse any mistake in my writing…


The fan controllers are part of the fan.

The cages are plastic and attach to the front of the cages NOT the chassis itself.

As above the controllers are part of the fan units themselves.

Would require custom fan cages if they were to be re-used.

As for the fan models, they are unmarked - pre-full production models so can't give you specifics at this time.

Matt.
Posted by Farinorco - Wed 30 Apr 2008 23:02
MD
The fan controllers are part of the fan.

The cages are plastic and attach to the front of the cages NOT the chassis itself.

As above the controllers are part of the fan units themselves.

Would require custom fan cages if they were to be re-used.

As for the fan models, they are unmarked - pre-full production models so can't give you specifics at this time.

Matt.

Lots of thanks, Matt. That's greatly helpful to me :)

I'm trying to decide between this one and Cosmos S, and it seems that 1200 it's going to be a little harder to fit the watercooling (mainly because of the need of a custom structure to hold the front bezels/filters/etc to the rad/case), but I like more the airflow design in the 1200, and aesthetically too, I like the 80's cyber kind of look of this much better than the racing car theme of the Cosmos S. I supose I'm old enough to like the cyber aesthetic :embarrassed:

(And fortunately Antec has decided to change the 900's profile, too… triangular to my taste. Much better the 1200)
Posted by ntrisKKT - Thu 01 May 2008 17:30
For those who are wondering, the Antec Twelve Hundred is now available at all major retailers, e-tailers, and distributors.
Posted by moogle - Thu 01 May 2008 17:36
ntrisKKT
For those who are wondering, the Antec Twelve Hundred is now available at all major retailers, e-tailers, and distributors.

nope. no stock till mid may and some retailers get it tommorow but charge more for it.
Posted by Azza - Thu 01 May 2008 17:51
Any idea of an exact date on when you will get yours moogle?
Posted by moogle - Thu 01 May 2008 18:09
Azza
Any idea of an exact date on when you will get yours moogle?

I think they'll be recieving stock around the 15th. Maybe because they got the black ones with black interiors. All the other ones getting stock on 2nd (supposedly) have normal steel/grey colored interiors.
Posted by Farinorco - Thu 01 May 2008 19:27
moogle
I think they'll be recieving stock around the 15th. Maybe because they got the black ones with black interiors. All the other ones getting stock on 2nd (supposedly) have normal steel/grey colored interiors.

What??? Normal inside/back color isn't black??? They're gonna be selling steel/grey 1200's once the first stock is out? :surprised:

I can't believe it… why? It's a great idea the all black color scheme and looks fantastic, it makes it look like a completely different and much better case…

Well, I suppose that I could take the trouble of looking for a decent spray paint and primer, learn how to use it, dismantle the case, paint all steel/grey colored pieces, wait til its dry, and mount again, instead of buying a directly black painted case… :wallbash:

You're joking, ah? Tell me you're joking…
Posted by moogle - Fri 02 May 2008 05:59
well.. alot of their product images have steel/grey on them. I assume they've recieved 1 case to get their product pictures taken. The stock dates that I know of are 2/05/08, 14/05/08 and 15/05/08.

I'll be getting one between then. But hey if its not black inside, and the product image shows as black I will be quite annoyed and may return it for a black one.
Posted by Farinorco - Fri 02 May 2008 09:13
Uffffff, so it's an assumption… then there's hope :rolleyes:

Yeah, I've seen all the other images of steel/grey interior as well, but I made a different assumption… they're older than the Hexus review ones, some of them even a year old now (first images of the first prototypes of this case and the Mini P180 for example, or with the integrated 20cm radiator at the top), and I assumed that previous versions had the same colour scheme of the 900 (and 99.99% pc cases) with the classical unfinished internals, but in the end they've decided to go with a completely black painted case… Other more recent images from the presentation of this case and Mini P180 and Antec 300 have the black painted internals too.

Either possibility could be right here, but I sincerely hope mine does :P

And speaking about this, that's something that I come saying for a long time now, I can't understand the cases with window and unfinished interior. Its annoying and ugly. And completely unacceptable when talking about cases of more than 100$/€…

PD: Appearently, there seems to be nothing at Hexus review that points to a any different final version from its preproduction sample, there are even several comments on colour scheme with the black internals and back, and AFAIK, the Mini P180 it's being sold with the same black painted internals and back, even when it hasn't got a window… so I believe we'll be satisfied to see that the cases we can buy are all black too… :rockon:
Posted by MD - Fri 02 May 2008 09:57
Guys let me check with Antec on this for you :)
Posted by moogle - Fri 02 May 2008 09:58
MD
Guys let me check with Antec on this for you :)

Thanks,

Scott must be busy as he hasn't replied to me about the colors.
Posted by MD - Fri 02 May 2008 10:02
We have a number of contacts at Antec, I wouldn't email Scott on this one - Ill email the people who helped us obtain the sample - Ill get back to you as soon as they get back to me :)

Thanks

Matt
Posted by Azza - Fri 02 May 2008 13:56
I dont see why all of them wouldnt be done in black.


Is everything made of steel?
Posted by MD - Sat 03 May 2008 08:23
Antec have confirmed that all cases in the 1200 range WILL be totally black.

Hope that clears it all up for you.

Matt.
Posted by Farinorco - Sat 03 May 2008 10:14
Awesome! :woowoo: :clapping: I think this one will be at 99% my next case…

Lots of thanks again, Matt.
Posted by moogle - Sat 03 May 2008 11:42
MD
Antec have confirmed that all cases in the 1200 range WILL be totally black.

Hope that clears it all up for you.

Matt.

:hexlub::hexlub::hexlub:

Thanks very much :)
Posted by MD - Sun 04 May 2008 10:45
no worries chaps - glad to be able to help :)
Posted by ntrisKKT - Fri 09 May 2008 01:44
IMPORTANT NEWS!!!:



The Antec 1200 is now available at
Newegg.com
Posted by moogle - Fri 09 May 2008 10:22
That would be very helpful if I lived in America :)

On another note some might like to know that this website
Antec Twelve Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - No PSU - AWD-IT.CO.UK

Says it has it in stock. Whether it's true or not I don't know. As they haven't responded to any emails. How they have it and no other major e-tailers do I have no idea. Or they're telling us lies.
Posted by Falknir - Fri 09 May 2008 20:05
I'm curious, with the first production run of the Antec Twelve Hundreds now available at retailers. Are the front fan controllers a three-pin connector instead of being integrated with the fan like the pre-production model? And the rear fan controller having three-pin connectors as well? I am sure, that there are many builders and myself included that would replace those TriCool 120mm fans without hesitation.
Posted by moogle - Mon 19 May 2008 17:05
Falknir
I'm curious, with the first production run of the Antec Twelve Hundreds now available at retailers. Are the front fan controllers a three-pin connector instead of being integrated with the fan like the pre-production model? And the rear fan controller having three-pin connectors as well? I am sure, that there are many builders and myself included that would replace those TriCool 120mm fans without hesitation.

I'll be finding out in a week hopefully. Maybe MD can tell us.
Posted by shaffaaf27 - Mon 19 May 2008 18:45
got any news on the Kublai 03
Posted by MD - Mon 19 May 2008 19:01
From what I could see they were all completely inbuilt. The front cages wouldn't bee too easy to replace and the mouldings round the top fan may also cause an issue.

If it were me and I had to change the fans I would ook to keeping the fans but fitting my own controller and ripping apart the cables as appropriate.

Matt.
Posted by MD - Mon 19 May 2008 19:01
shaffaaf27
got any news on the Kublai 03

At this moment in time we just have too many chassis in. It's on the list, but as we are having a big shuffle round at HEXUS it may take us a while before we have one in and ready to review.

Matt.
Posted by moogle - Sat 24 May 2008 17:54
Delayed another 35 days……..
Posted by moogle - Fri 30 May 2008 15:27
look who stopped by today :)



All I can say is….

Finally! About bloody time :D
Posted by SiM - Fri 30 May 2008 20:08
moogle
look who stopped by today :)



All I can say is….

Finally! About bloody time :D

Post photo review as you build it please! (In a new thread)
Posted by moogle - Fri 30 May 2008 22:52
SiM
Post photo review as you build it please! (In a new thread)

Will do, I must say the cable tidy holes are just tooooo awesome :D
Which subforum do I post it in?
Posted by SiM - Sat 31 May 2008 02:12
moogle
Will do, I must say the cable tidy holes are just tooooo awesome :D
Which subforum do I post it in?
There I guess:
Chassis & system ‘modding’ - HEXUS.community discussion forums
Posted by moogle - Sat 31 May 2008 16:58
SiM
There I guess:
Chassis & system ‘modding’ - HEXUS.community discussion forums

http://forums.hexus.net/chassis-system-modding/139585-antec-1200-build.html#post1434450

Will update it, I promise. Just overclocking and getting things stable.
Posted by FifthFreedom - Sun 01 Jun 2008 15:24
So anyone have any ideas when Scan might be offering up any of these?

I got £120 burning a hole in my pocket
Posted by moogle - Sun 01 Jun 2008 17:32
FifthFreedom
So anyone have any ideas when Scan might be offering up any of these?

I got £120 burning a hole in my pocket

why not make it a £111 burning a hole in your pocket.

https://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ANT-1200

Free delivery or next day for £3
Posted by redynsa - Thu 12 Jun 2008 15:40
The lack of a filter above the 200mm fan, while unfortunate, does raise the question… Can you flip the fan around to expel air rather than bring it into the case? Since it is pre-mounted by Antec, I wasn't sure if one would be able to do this.
Posted by moogle - Thu 12 Jun 2008 15:45
redynsa
The lack of a filter above the 200mm fan, while unfortunate, does raise the question… Can you flip the fan around to expel air rather than bring it into the case? Since it is pre-mounted by Antec, I wasn't sure if one would be able to do this.

which fan? the top one expels air if you didn't know. following in the footsteps of the 900. no need for a filter as it would trap dust being expelled. I just drop a cloth on top when I switch it off though to stop dust from falling back through although if you wanted to you could get a sheet of ac ryan mesh and put that inside. I'm sure u can take the fan off but no idea on flipping it.
Posted by crowdsurfer100 - Tue 09 Sep 2008 17:21
Looks cool!
Posted by cmjrees - Sat 01 Nov 2008 21:03
moogle
which fan? the top one expels air if you didn't know. following in the footsteps of the 900. no need for a filter as it would trap dust being expelled. I just drop a cloth on top when I switch it off though to stop dust from falling back through although if you wanted to you could get a sheet of ac ryan mesh and put that inside. I'm sure u can take the fan off but no idea on flipping it.

Could you switch the terminals?
Posted by tonschk - Fri 20 Feb 2009 10:09
RyanP13
True but how many fans fo you really need in a case.

am i the only person that hates LED fans as well?


I :) agree with you I also hate the fans with LED , I preffer just Full Black Matt fans , if unfortunately my new case come with LED fans I need immediately to replace and swap with Black fans

I know plenty of people that hate LED fans
Posted by cmjrees - Wed 25 Feb 2009 13:29
tonschk
I :) agree with you I also hate the fans with LED , I preffer just Full Black Matt fans , if unfortunately my new case come with LED fans I need immediately to replace and swap with Black fans

I know plenty of people that hate LED fans

Want to swap? I've got three boring black Antec TriCool fans from my P182 that i'd swap for the LED versions if you like :P I may even throw some random piece of computing history if you like.
Posted by tonschk - Mon 02 Mar 2009 02:54
I am sorry to tell you , I dont have anymore any LED fans because already time ago ALL my LED fans went to become rubbish in the bin :)
Posted by cmjrees - Mon 02 Mar 2009 08:18
tonschk
I am sorry to tell you , I dont have anymore any LED fans because already time ago ALL my LED fans went to become rubbish in the bin :)

You mean you DON'T have an attic filled with ancient computer crap where you can put stuff like that??? How do you survive?