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Posted by GoNz0 - Wed 25 Apr 2018 10:39
I will never buy another Samsung SSD again, the product support is terrible, refusal to release PSID revert tool is a great move considering other manufacturers have them available, promises of SED support that doesn't work when it's released over a year after release. I am now sat with a drive in secure mode that cannot be reverted without an RMA.
Posted by lumireleon - Wed 25 Apr 2018 10:54
just wondering…is intel's 3Dxpoint technology more superior than anything Samsung has to offer?
Posted by 3dcandy - Wed 25 Apr 2018 11:04
lumireleon
just wondering…is intel's 3Dxpoint technology more superior than anything Samsung has to offer?

Doesn't appear to be. When eventually launched the performance was less than promised and the price was higher than expected. It's different anyway. Google throws up lots of if whens and maybes.
Posted by Hoonigan - Wed 25 Apr 2018 12:42
lumireleon
just wondering…is intel's 3Dxpoint technology more superior than anything Samsung has to offer?

It has its uses, but as a general SSD, 3D-NAND seems to be the answer.
Posted by kingpotnoodle - Wed 25 Apr 2018 17:32
lumireleon
just wondering…is intel's 3Dxpoint technology more superior than anything Samsung has to offer?

Depends how you define superior. 3DXPoint as a non-volatile memory technology is theoretically superior in many ways to NAND flash, particularly compared to MLC and TLC, but the price per GB is very high.

In terms of actual shipping products the Optane drives generally have high endurance figures compared to equivalent size NAND based products, stronger performance at low queue depth, don't require high queue depth to reach maximum performance and have lower and more consistent latency. On the downside Optane drives are very expensive, power hungry, capacity is low and they don't win in every scenario or in a way that would affect many applications.

I've successfully used Optane drives as caches but the capacity is too small to be useful as a general storage drive.
Posted by ETR316 - Wed 25 Apr 2018 19:09
I would love to see a head 2 head review of the 970 PRO and Intel's 280GB Optane 900P PCIe 3.0 x4 Internal SSD. I wonder if any tech site will have the guts to do that review?
Posted by Hoonigan - Wed 25 Apr 2018 20:32
ETR316
I would love to see a head 2 head review of the 970 PRO and Intel's 280GB Optane 900P PCIe 3.0 x4 Internal SSD. I wonder if any tech site will have the guts to do that review?

So as not to encroach on the rules of the forum, I won't mention who I work for, but I will see if we can get the Optane 900p and do that for you. Currently got the 970 PRO in so shouldn't be too difficult.

I'll PM you if I have any luck.
Posted by jamz4 - Thu 26 Apr 2018 08:51
several sites already have them compared to the 900p in their reviews
Posted by 3dcandy - Thu 26 Apr 2018 10:05
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_ssd_970_pro_review

Second review on google
Posted by Ravens Nest - Thu 26 Apr 2018 17:48
couldn't they give it another name, i already have a 970, plays my games very well.
Posted by 876HX - Tue 11 Dec 2018 12:14
With Asus Z77 motherboard I've used 256GB evo using PCI card and my boot time came down from 45sec(SATA SSD) to 20sec. Had to use the BIOS mod to enable OS boot as z77 doesn't support this natively.

https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-all-Systems-with-an-AMI-UEFI-BIOS.html