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Posted by SkywalkerLuke - Fri 21 Jul 2017 11:09
What is the point of buying an RX580 card now when VEGA is round the corner? I don't understand why manufacturer bother right now, unless they need to get rid of their old stock first…. Does my forehead say MUG :-)
Posted by Tarinder - Fri 21 Jul 2017 11:12
We don't really know how good or bad RX Vega will be, plus these Radeons still seem to be hot property on the cryptocurrency market.
Posted by darcotech - Fri 21 Jul 2017 11:15
But RX 580 is in not in the same class as future Vega cards. This cards compares to GTX 1060 and has normally price at 200-250.
Whoever buys this one , needs to know how it compares to GTX 1060. So it is pitty you didn't had one to include to your tests.

Also, it also important to include some older card, so that we can actually see if there is any reason to upgrade.
I used to have Radeon 7950 1Ghz edition, but there was so little information how big upgrade are new generation of cards. Went for notebook with GTX 1070 as best compromise for what I need.
Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH - Fri 21 Jul 2017 11:17
Vega is not an RX580 class card though - unless there is more than one Vega GPU,the only one we have seen so far is around the same size as the GP102 chip in the GTX1080TI. At the very least the cheapest variant we might see would GTX1070 level pricing at least and that is now generally closer to £400 in the UK.

The only reason the cards are so expensive is due to coin mining,if not this would be a sub £300 card.

Edit!!

I am not saying AMD won't have a sub £300 Vega based card but if its the same GPU as in the Vega FE I am not certain how much money they will making from it!!
Posted by darcotech - Fri 21 Jul 2017 11:45
I meant “not in the same class as”, didn't detect it even if I red two times before posting. Need vacation…

CAT-THE-FIFTH
Vega is not an RX580 class card though - unless there is more than one Vega GPU,the only one we have seen so far is around the same size as the GP102 chip in the GTX1080TI. At the very least the cheapest variant we might see would GTX1070 level pricing at least and that is now generally closer to £400 in the UK.

The only reason the cards are so expensive is due to coin mining,if not this would be a sub £300 card.

Edit!!

I am not saying AMD won't have a sub £300 Vega based card but if its the same GPU as in the Vega FE I am not certain how much money they will making from it!!
Posted by Wozza63 - Fri 21 Jul 2017 11:53
No matter what is coming out in just a few weeks, there is always someone not wanting to wait. Though as has generally been noted in this article, this would not be something to buy for gaming right now. Nvidia would actually provide much better value and you can actually get one new.
Posted by SHSPVR - Fri 21 Jul 2017 12:15
darcotech
But RX 580 is in not in the same class as future Vega cards. This cards compares to GTX 1060 and has normally price at 200-250.
Whoever buys this one , needs to know how it compares to GTX 1060. So it is pitty you didn't had one to include to your tests.

Also, it also important to include some older card, so that we can actually see if there is any reason to upgrade.
I used to have Radeon 7950 1Ghz edition, but there was so little information how big upgrade are new generation of cards. Went for notebook with GTX 1070 as best compromise for what I need.
Hate tell you this but here in US they cost way more 300 as they been mark up no thanks to cryptocurrency GPU mining
Posted by darcotech - Fri 21 Jul 2017 13:10
@SHSPVR

I know for markup. Its worldwide, not just US. But the FACT is this is 200-250 range card and as such should have been compared to 1060.
Otherwise, we can also say in some games you put two of this cards and you beat high end gfs. But it have (very) limited use.
Posted by Xlucine - Fri 21 Jul 2017 20:39
Wozza365
No matter what is coming out in just a few weeks, there is always someone not wanting to wait. Though as has generally been noted in this article, this would not be something to buy for gaming right now. Nvidia would actually provide much better value and you can actually get one new.

The 1060 pricing has gone mad with mining to a similar degree to the 580, so the value is pretty similar - the 580 is faster, and a little more expensive
Posted by SHSPVR - Sat 22 Jul 2017 00:35
Xlucine
Wozza365
No matter what is coming out in just a few weeks, there is always someone not wanting to wait. Though as has generally been noted in this article, this would not be something to buy for gaming right now. Nvidia would actually provide much better value and you can actually get one new.

The 1060 pricing has gone mad with mining to a similar degree to the 580, so the value is pretty similar - the 580 is faster, and a little more expensive
That so true
Posted by jimbouk - Mon 24 Jul 2017 15:04
darcotech
But RX 580 is in not in the same class as future Vega cards. This cards compares to GTX 1060 and has normally price at 200-250.
Whoever buys this one , needs to know how it compares to GTX 1060. So it is pitty you didn't had one to include to your tests.

Also, it also important to include some older card, so that we can actually see if there is any reason to upgrade.
I used to have Radeon 7950 1Ghz edition, but there was so little information how big upgrade are new generation of cards. Went for notebook with GTX 1070 as best compromise for what I need.

I was confused by this to. Why is the nearest NVidia card for comparison ~£500? Would be nice to have this compared against cards in the same price bracket and something last gen as mentioned. Otherwise the headline might just be £330 card slower than £500 card…