The 6c12t £200 cpu is where I'm looking for my next build

I build or advise on PCs for my less savvy mates. It's nice to be able to offer them a potent CPU I can put in for £150 that they won't need to replace for a very long time. And no more having their partners give me daggers across the room as they fruitlessly try to explain why they spent so much on a part to “play stupid games on” ha

I ordered the R5 1600 and an MSI Mortar Arctic mATX mobo on Friday - I figured I'd show some support for AMD's resurgence.

Unfortunately, Scan stitched me up on delivery, so now I have to wait until Tuesday. Thanks, Scan, much appreciated. Not.

Spreadie
I ordered the R5 1600 and an MSI Mortar Arctic mATX mobo on Friday - I figured I'd show some support for AMD's resurgence.

Unfortunately, Scan stitched me up on delivery, so now I have to wait until Tuesday. Thanks, Scan, much appreciated. Not.

Have you tried this approach. When there's nothing more one can do I find it helps my blood pressure!

ik9000
Have you tried this approach. When there's nothing more one can do I find it helps my blood pressure!

No. People taking my money for nothing in return tends to stick with me. I'm funny that way.

Spreadie
No. People taking my money for nothing in return tends to stick with me. I'm funny that way.

lol you're making out like they stole your money. If you paid for next day delivery make sure to get it refunded. It just sounds like they screwed up stock count or something though.

Yeah, it was nothing like that - you're wrong, but I have no intention of dragging this thread any further off topic.

Spreadie
Yeah, it was nothing like that - you're wrong, but I have no intention of dragging this thread any further off topic.

You straight-up accused Scan of stealing your money, and when I asked for clarification (and hell, even offered one), you're now saying it's not pertinent ?

You're a dodgy fella I gotta say. It feels like you got caught in an over-dramatic statement and don't want to rectify. But my judgement counts for jack poop…I'm just nozy

Tunnah
my judgement counts for jack poop

Hey, look, you got something right!

Alright, enough of the Great Scan Controversy. What with BA meltdown and now Scan delivery, whatever next? And that's rhetorical.

Back on topic, please, before this gets out of hand.

pifast has not been updated since 2003? so why is it still being used for benchmarks and still favs intel chips? w prime site does not work. if u cant get on the site and it neither has been updated, why are reviewers still using it?

elites2012
pifast has not been updated since 2003? so why is it still being used for benchmarks and still favs intel chips? w prime site does not work. if u cant get on the site and it neither has been updated, why are reviewers still using it?

Because it's not particularly favourable to Intel, it's just Intel does the maths better. It's not some software trick, it's in fact a pretty basic program that is great for testing raw performance

elites2012
pifast has not been updated since 2003? so why is it still being used for benchmarks …

Any number of reasons, but here's a couple of the most relevant:

It's an excellent subsystem test that's independent of peripherals like graphics and storage, so it's ideal for CPU and platform tests. It relies mostly on single-threaded CPU performance, and a little on memory subsystem (although I suspect that for the latest generation of CPUs it's getting very close to fitting entirely in cache, making it a pure CPU test). Very few benchmarks are capable of testing subsystems in isolation like that.

It's been used, unchanged, for over 15 years, so it provides a historic reference point against previous generations of processors. For instance, 2002's Athlon XP 2700+ (Thoroughbred B) scored a respectable 71.48s (http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/430-amd-xp2700/?page=6). Four years later Intel's Core 2 E6700 managed an impressive 35.14s (http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/5692-intels-conroe-spanks-amd-fx-62s-botty-real/?page=3), which is almost as fast as the FX 6350 tested in this review. Intel's latest CPUs manage to halve that again. There are very few other benchmarks that can so easily be used to compare hardware of very different generations…


EDIT: oh, and it's free and easily distributable, meaning users at home can easily replicate the test and see how their systems compare. Hexus used to offer a downloadable package with their settings file included, but I'm not sure if that's still available…