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Android 4.0 last hurrah for mobile Flash

by Alistair Lowe on 16 December 2011, 15:18

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When Adobe first announced that it would be dropping support for Flash on mobile devices, we were all a little shocked. After spending some time collecting our thoughts, perhaps it was for the best to begin pushing forwards the HTML5 standard across all platforms, it'll no doubt benefit us all to have a unified standard.

However, transition from one standard to another takes time and users of Android devices have been questioning whether Adobe planned to support the new Google Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich release. At last we have the answer, the latest and last significant Adobe Flash 11.1 update for Android, in which Adobe has indeed brought about support for the operating system. Hurrah! From this point onwards, however, updates to the mobile platform will be limited to minor security and stability releases.

With Adobe seemingly digging its own Flash grave in creating cause for the acceleration of HTML5 growth, we wonder how successful the platform will continue to be on the PC and high-power portables. Perhaps the firm will choose to focus on HTML5 development tools as opposed to Flash itself, should such a day come that the platform becomes obsolete. Only the future will tell.



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Hopefully this means iplayer for ics isn't far behind.

Adobe should do the decent thing and open source the plugin if they are abandoning it as the android community is fantastic for updating software and making things work
I personally can't wait for the demise of Flash. Flash orientated sites are often buggy, not being able to use the Back Button is criminal for modern browsing, especially on touch devices. But when you can use the Back Button on Flash websites it often means it's a slow, overly complicated website with URLs longer than your arm. I dont know about others but Flash animations on websites drive me mental, I really dont need cabaret whilst browsing.

I remember when Flash came about I resisted it for as long as possible until even the Microsoft website couldn't resist. If you dont have flash now, websites will freeze until a message displays 'Get Flash'. A lot of websites today assume everyone has flash so there is no HTML alternative, when all you want are directions you get an animation telling you how brilliant web 2.0 is.

I'm in favour for HTML 5 for now, I like the idea of less plugins, but as long as it doesnt get abused and put the viewer in a position to click X all the time, for example adverts that are always on 11 when it comes to sound and always on top of the rest of the website so that drop down menu's are hidden.

I will agree losing Flash support right now could demise some websites, so a transition phase has to take its natural course of time. There has been a clear message for some time though, if you are designing a new website, dont factor in Flash.
I think HTML5 could also spark the end of Silverlight if it hasnt already been mentioned. If the Tablet version of Windows 8 IE is not going to support Flash I'd be interested in knowing if they also ditch Silverlight.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14949869 [bbc.co.uk] - Sorry quick search didnt reveal a Hexus article
AGTDenton
I'm in favour for HTML 5 for now, I like the idea of less plugins, but as long as it doesnt get abused and put the viewer in a position to click X all the time, for example adverts that are always on 11 when it comes to sound and always on top of the rest of the website so that drop down menu's are hidden.

That's what's concerning me - good thing about Flash-based adverts were that they were a piece of cake to get blocked. Will the new HTML5-based adverts be similarly easy to splat out of existence?

I don't mind ones that sites like Hexus run (apart from that darned Intel one that took over the bottom of the page), but some sites run ads that really get in your face or, worse still, these Vibrant Media ones that enable hotlinks in the text, so you end up treating the page like a mouse minefield. :crazy:

You mentioned Silverlight - hopefully that gets dropped too - never really took to it.
crossy
That's what's concerning me - good thing about Flash-based adverts were that they were a piece of cake to get blocked. Will the new HTML5-based adverts be similarly easy to splat out of existence?

I don't mind ones that sites like Hexus run (apart from that darned Intel one that took over the bottom of the page), but some sites run ads that really get in your face or, worse still, these Vibrant Media ones that enable hotlinks in the text, so you end up treating the page like a mouse minefield. :crazy:

You mentioned Silverlight - hopefully that gets dropped too - never really took to it.


The good thing about Silverlight is that it has not been widely adopted. On some of the machines I use it's still in my optional Windows updates list.

In what way were you blocking the Flash adverts, the obvious way is when an advert is on a dedicated server, e.g. "ads.site.com", but when they are from the same website as the standard content what do you do with those? Looking at the HTML code from the page below, its similar to adding a picture with the option of supporting multiple file types. So from the way I block sites there wouldn't be any change.

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/html5_video.asp [w3schools.com]
AGTDenton
In what way were you blocking the Flash adverts, the obvious way is when an advert is on a dedicated server, e.g. "ads.site.com", but when they are from the same website as the standard content what do you do with those? Looking at the HTML code from the page below, its similar to adding a picture with the option of supporting multiple file types. So from the way I block sites there wouldn't be any change.

http://www.w3schools.com/html5/html5_video.asp [w3schools.com]

I don't do anything that clever - merely run the usual NoScript/AdBlock+ combo on Firefox.
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